Boehner still doesn’t have the votes. They used up all the debating time. Nancy Pelosi closed the argument for the Dems with a lengthy speech. The Republicans had one minute remaining for Boehner (the Speaker and Minority Leader typically ignore time limitations on debate), but rather than have him speak, the presiding officer simply postponed the vote. Then, get this, they moved on to debating the naming of a post office in Illinois. Is that hilarious, or what?
So, Boehner has to postpone his evening cocktail hour and figure out what to do. Does he keep trying to twist arms? Does he resign?
After all, he already told his caucus that he couldn’t be their Speaker if they didn’t support him on this bill. Is his career over?
At what point does he cry?
I know it may be bad for the country, but right now all I can say is BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Even if Boner somehow gets this vote later and it “Barely” passes the meme has already been set. CNN & MSNBC are already saying if “Boehner can’t control his caucus, then the House becomes ungovernable”
So even if it all works out for Boehner in the end, karma IS a bitch!
Wow. I guess I shouldn’t have worried that Boehner might be more competent than he appeared.
Given that the Republicans in the house couldn’t even pass a bill, and that it’s up to Democrats to save us from default, the Reid plan is looking absurdly generous.
yes. It does.
However, we do still have a little problem called the 60-vote rule in the Senate.
Do you think they’d filibuster a clean bill?
I don’t think it’ll come to that–but do you think that with the clock ticking, the Very Serious Senate would filibuster? I can’t tell.
Kyl would.
And of course Rand Paul
No way a clean bill would pass the House anyway. But, Pelosi is hinting at one shrug
The Senate would probably do anything to avoid default. A filibuster would be easily defeated provided the bill had at least some semblance of face-saving. I think a new binding debt commission is required both to save some face and to reassure the credit rating agencies.
Frankly, what I’d like to see (but won’t) is the Democrats turn around and start making unreasonable demands. After all, the only way to pass something is with all the Democrats in the House joining about 40 Main Street Republicans. Under those circumstances, we ought to get a better deal than the Reid Plan.
It’s not impossible — especially if the small number of sane House Republicans have decided they’ve had enough of this nonsense.
Since from someone’s perspective anything that happens in House now is catastrophic, Boehner might just as well resign. There isn’t a Rep who can lead them out of this mess.
I’ll admit that I thought they’d get the votes when Cantor started whipping.
However, when Boehner lashed out at them, and when the CBO came back? I didn’t think it’d pass. It still could, who knows, but it’s clear there is no one who can lead this zoo.
Seriously, Boner is a joke. I was saying over at another blog, that there is not way Nancy “SMASH” would ever “let” her caucus look so in disarray especially in public for the MSM to report on. At the very least Pelosi would advice her caucus even if they had a disagreement with the leadership, to keep in in the meetings. Not go all over TV or leaking like a sieve to every Tom, Dick, and Harry newspaper reporters!
this is my line on Nancy and I’m gonna stick with it.
Nancy got shyt done, and she did it in Dior, Jimmy Choos, and with nary a hair out of place.
Melissa Harris-Perry did a piece comparing Nancy to Orange Julius, which once again pointed out what an utter failure he is as Speaker.
Nancy was a damned good Speaker. It’s a shame she paid the price for Reid and Obama’s failings.
It’s a great line rikyrah. Right up there with the one about Ginger Rogers—something to the effect of “she danced like Fred Astaire…but did it in high heels, dancing backwards.”
Waaaaahambulancccce.
He’s beating up on my man Louis Goehmert. Poor put-upon Louis, the village idiot of East Texas.
At what point does he cry?
I’d be more concerned about what point does he chow down on a Saturday Night Special?
Good god, the wheels are really coming off, aren’t they?
Already done that. The caucus had a collective sobfest at the morning caucus according to one GOP House member.
Naw. Boehner’s not taking that route. He has no need – worst case scenario is that he steps down as Speaker and the House finds a new one. He serves out his term and goes off to find some wingnut welfare somewhere. Sure he’s a weak speaker, but he has enough friends that he’ll land on his feet.
Honestly – I don’t think Boehner survives this as Speaker. I mean I guess he could survive so long as the House doesn’t actually have to accomplish anything in the next year, but there’s another budget coming up that needs to pass once this debt ceiling crap is over, so he’s going to right. back. here. again. in just a short period of time.
Correction – we’re ALL going to be right back here again.
Sigh.
now that he’s such an abject failure, can we stop calling him bayner and pronounce it boner again?
the metaphors are a lot funnier. “boehner yanks bill” “boehner’s performance lacking”.
please?
I guess you haven’t noticed, most of us here have been calling him Boner for a long time.
i consciously do it. Like when I’m in the car and NPR is on, every time they say “bayner” I mutter “boner”.
he IS a fucking boner too, and not just in the penis or knife-used-for-gutting-fish senses. he’s also a clumsy, stupid mistake.
that’s why he cries so much. he was always called boner and it still hurts.
Latest boner from Boner.
NY Post HUGE headline:
Raging Boener
satisfying
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Dont’ get me wrong, I’m an optimistic pessimist by nature. I expect the worse, and hope for the best. In this case, if the bill comes up for a vote, I expect the bill to pass barely but until then, this give me that glimmer of hope, that karma is at least at play here.
Still if the bill passes, I do believe it won’t make it out of the Senate or to the Prez desk. I also suspect that if it made it to Prez desk, POTUS will veto the bill.
Pass or not, this whole final hour scenario of Boner’s does NOT bode well for his future as Speaker.
You have what is called a “positive mental attitude based on negative expectations”. When you are disappointed that the situation did not meet your expectations, you are delighted with the result.
I think I’ll have a cocktail in his honor.
By the way, Booman, this is all your fault. If you hadn’t have penned that convincing post earlier, arguing that tea baggers might as well vote against a bill that was going nowhere anyway, Boehner might have had an easier job.
clever of me, wasn’t it?
Ah, but it ain’t over yet.
Goddamn nefarious, is what you are. Goddamn nefarious.
It’s really all a fiendish plot to make you flee the city for some time in a cabin in the burbs… 🙂
If there’s home brew I’m there.
Or pie.
Good thing all those teabagging House members read this blog.
LOL!
It’s always the damned liberals’ fault!
Why would anyone who followed Boehner’s “leadership” on the Ryan budget plan pay any more attention to Boehner – or Cantor or Ryan either for that matter?
We’re wrecked as a functioning nation until Nov. 2012 unless the non-Tea Party House R’s find some type of back room detente with Pelosi.
Could happen. Then you could really stick a fork in the Republican Party.
all the schadenfreude around here regarding Boehner’s troubles. If he loses the speakership it will surely go to someone even more extreme than he. Given Obama’s non-confrontational nature (to put it as kindly as I can) that does not bode well for America.
I think Cantor is already the Speaker. Boehner is just the cheap suit they put in front of the cameras.
Republican Leadership = oxymoron
This whole business with Boehner tonight has me thinking of this scene from Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory. I don’t know if I should be disturbed, scared, or entertained. I’m feeling a little bit of all 3 in regards to all this maneuvering.
Willy Wonka’s Crazy Psychedilic Boat Ride
Almost two hours.
Tick….Tick….Tick…Tick
I think he’s trying to get them drunk enough not to care.
I’m reading on twitter GOP considering sending bill back to committee for further tweaking, if so, that’s no bill tonight, but on the record they are still saying bill will happen tonight. if so, I think Boehner et al waiting 4 overnight vote to hold out against sleepy reporters.. they will pass the bill with exactly the number they need, no more, and they will have ’til morning news to fine tune their spin.
Betcha that tweaking is nothing but earmarks.