Mayor Nutter busted up the #OccupyPhilly encampments last night at about one in the morning. It wasn’t any great surprise. He had set a 5pm deadline on Sunday for the protesters to leave or face arrest. There was a little drama for a few hours as the protesters wound themselves around Center City, and then about 44 of them were arrested as dawn approached. Now they will try to figure out how to keep the movement going.
There’s been talk that the attention-grabbing encampments and accompanying sit-ins and marches have already served the purpose of kickstarting Occupy, so the next phase of the movement should involve giving up the protest sites and migrating to the Internet, where information can be more efficiently disseminated and the movement’s energy redirected into more pragmatic pursuits like voter education and mobilization.
Chris Faraone—a reporter with The Boston Phoenix who’s been covering Occupy Boston and has spent time at a dozen more Occupy sites around the country the past two months—disagrees. “Whether it’s occupation-camping mode or not, I see a physical presence being the watermark of this movement,” says Faraone. “People really need to get together in person to make plans for these events and marches, which I really think are working. I think it’s now in the back of these CEOs’ minds that, ‘Fuck, 3,000 people are gonna show up at my office.’ The head of Bank of America in Boston does not like the fact that 500 people show up at his house once a week. That kind of thing isn’t gonna happen if you move everything to the Internet.”
More realistic answers came from veterans of the Philly protests.
“It gets pretty fuckin’ cold in the winter, so good luck if you can’t have any kind of shelter,” says Roman Reznichenko, who spent a week at Occupy Philly in late October. He adds that there are transportation issues, too. “If you’re not camping down there, you gotta get there and I know I couldn’t afford that,” he says. “I know a lot of [Occupiers] who are from Jersey or out in the sticks and they don’t have the money to go back and forth every day.”
And if the encampment itself has been part of the message, then having to pack up shop every night could kill the momentum. “Out of sight is out of mind,” says Zuccotti Park mainstay John Nicholson, a 25-year-old EMT worker. “The press isn’t gonna cover it nearly as much without the camping and some of the drama that’s gone along with that, so if people aren’t devoted to sticking around all night and keeping it going and challenging them when they say you can’t be there, then this could all fade away pretty fast,” he says.
For the record, the Philly police and the mayor have had a cordial and respectful attitude toward the Occupiers. And they deserve credit for dispersing the camps without firing teargas or wading into the crowds with billy clubs. And no pepper spray!! See? All that heavy-handed crap is unnecessary. (You can view 293 photos from last night here). There were a few instances of bike-cops getting too aggressive and causing injury, and horse-cops stomped on at least one woman’s feet. But compared to how New York and Oakland have behaved, it was almost without incident.
Los Angeles busted up their Occupy encampment last night, too. The weather in LA will present no obstacle to setting up camp somewhere else.
Where do you think the Occupy movement is heading?
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My feelings about Occupy Philly are complicated. I hope it keeps going. I LOVE the surprise mic checks, which seem to instill fear in so many of our elites.
Here’s video of the incident where a woman was stomped on by a horse.
I realized something yesterday: I don’t want to talk about OWS’ strategy. I don’t want to talk about police tactics. I don’t want to talk about silly DHS conspiracies, even to debunk them. I don’t want to talk about OWS outreach to minorities. I don’t want to talk about any of this inside-baseball stuff.
I want to talk about OWS’ message. I want to talk about income inequality, and stagnating wages, Too Big to Fail banks, and the intersection of big money and government.
I hope OWS keeps pushing its message, and doesn’t get bogged down.
Yes.
Take, for example, the Wikileaks cables.
We talked about the contents of those cables for about two days, and then the entire discussion became dominated by the personalities of Julian Assange and Bradley Manning (and Jane Hamsher and Glenn Greenwald), and actual, important part of the story disappeared.
Those Wikileaks cables are still online and they make fascinating reading, if only for their banality. And as far as I know they won’t give you cooties.
The US government does not want its citizens to know what almost every diplomatic service of any country already knows. And the US government is blowing smoke if it claims that release of these cables compromise security.
And the release has had some good effects. Information disclosed in them about the Tunisian government was part of what motivated the beginning of the Arab Awakening.
Relooking at them really is more important than the GOP horse race.
I agree that they make fascinating reading.
Unfortunately, you and I seem to be in the minority.
“Next on the Bradley Manning Network: Does Our Hero Have a Pillow, or Merely a Pillow-Shaped Head Rest in His Mattress?!?”
So what if they stalk the CEO’s? That guy doesn’t have to come to work every day. He/She’s probably not even home half the time. They may be annoyed by OWS presence but they aren’t scared. CEO’s only concern is the bottom line and unless you are fucking with that, CEO’s don’t care how long you camp out.
I don’t know where the movement is going and I don’t think they do either. That income inequality message is about to be overshadowed with their battles with the police. They also need to be steered in the right direction because they seem to think that the only other option is to go on the internet. They should learn from Wisconsin and Ohio about working to make the lives of the 99% better.
The message and the people will vanish on internet as they fall apart in to smaller and smaller clusters of adepts pushing a particular line.
Even as high-profile encampments get shut down, new ones appear – Huntsville AL and Peoria IL are the latest. Occupy Portland seems to be occupying Portland neighborhoods; it’s not clear yet what that will look like. A number of locations have gotten indoor space.
The most impressive accomplishment of Occupy Philly was the relocation of the homeless camp to a city-approved location, provisioning tents and winter gear, and a commitment from an interfaith group to continue the donations and actions that they were making as part of Occupy Philly.
From Occupy Boston, tweeter @caulkyourwagon suggests that the media (corporate and indy) stop obsessing about what the Occupy Wall Street movement will do and cover what it actually does.
BTW, the mayor of Los Angeles conducted a little “health terror theater” during the eviction of Occupy Los Angeles. Police units in hazmat suit arrested occupiers and tore down tents. The putative story was that there was risk of MRSR from the homeless occupiers and there were feces in camp. The obvious real reason was to further bolster the City’s “health and safety” excuse for shutting the encampment down.
All indications are that it is heading in some many directions that you are likely not to know until some group at some location accomplishes something else. One of the recent efforts has been preventing mortgage evictions. There was a success with one in Rochester NY, the home of the foreclosure firm that held the “homeless Halloween” party mocking the people they were evicting. And that firm has lost its Freddie Mac certification and laid off 900 people. Occupy Phoenix today is picketing an ALEC meeting. Occupy Colorado Springs mic-checked Gov. Hickenlooper about some state policies dictated by the 1%.
And the biggest recent event. Occupy Olympia, Occupy Seattle, Occupy Tacoma, and Occupy Bellingham, along with unions and public employees held a protest of 2000 outside the Washington State Capitol. Then over 200 occupied the rotunda of the Capitol, forcing the Washington State Patrol to forcibly evict them. And as is the case with the police, the WSP cut of the lights to prevent video coverage. Did you see coverage of that in the national media? The only coverage I could find was by the Olympia stringer to the Post-Intelligencer. Maybe there is now coverage.
Governors are terrified of another Madison-style occupation.
maybe those newly unemployed 900 motherfuckers will be a little more sympathetic to their victims. I hope they lose their homes and wind up in the streets.
Well, BooMan, it looks like OWS has come up with an answer to your question:
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/30/occupys_next_frontier_foreclosed_homes/
Where to they go next? Into foreclosed homes, that’s where.
I think these guys know exactly what they’re doing. There are going to be some very interested books written over the next 40 years about this movement.
Well they’re probably one of the reasons why the payroll taxcut is going to pass…so I think they’re owed apologies from people who thought it would “get in the way” of the president’s agenda. It still might not get through, but the Republicans are being moved in ways that the president couldn’t. And this isn’t to bash the president! Unlike Kos, who somehow thinks that this is an “either or” thing — one minute he thinks protests movements are useless and we need to move inside the party, the next he’s praising the protester’s ability to move pols — I think they work best in sync with one another. And, I like having protest movements being completely independent of the pols themselves. I think voting is important, as is canvassing and voter reg, but I think pols will move if the right organizing on the ground is happening. Of course, I’m still pessimistic about moving Republicans at all, but this is a welcome surprise nonetheless.
Also, see this NYMag article:
http://nymag.com/print/?/news/politics/occupy-wall-street-2011-12/
They’re a hell of a lot smarter than FDL, I’ll tell you that. I think they’ll be fine; they know what they’re doing.
Change the political culture, and this is what the movement is about, and the Republicans will either adapt like the Democrats did to conservatism by becoming corporatists (Blue Dogs), or they will not be re-elected.
There are a lot of people who have not figured out the bait-and-switch game that conservatives used to play them. And the fact that the power of money has forced liberal elected officials to play the same game or lose elections.
I hate the choice forced on the Democrats to either unilaterally disarm or knuckle under to big donors.
Sarah Jaffe, AlterNet Op-Ed: The Power of Occupy Wall Street Is Not Just What They’re Doing, But How They’re Doing It
Occupy Hawaii!
Hilo, Kauai, Honolulu, or Waikiki? All have general assemblies.
Wells Fargo CEO John Stumpf Mic Checked at NC State by Occupy on 11/30/11 – Occupy Raleigh Day 47
Occupy Raleigh, Occupy NC State, and Occupy Chapel Hill/Carrboro accomplish what the Department of Justice has not done. Holding John Stumpf to any shred of accountability.
Quite the bill of particulars.