Republicans are crowing that the president didn’t do that great in last night’s primaries in Arkansas and Kentucky, or in the recent contest in West Virginia. I don’t think it’s good sign for the Republicans. First, because the president doesn’t need to win any of those states to be reelected, his unpopularity there has no obvious repercussions. Second, because all three states have Democratic governors, West Virginia has two Democratic senators, and Arkansas has one, the implication is that Obama is more unpopular there because of his race than the party’s policies.
Democrats have been doing great in statewide elections in West Virginia and Kentucky during Obama’s first term. Arkansas Governor Mike Beebe, a Democrat, was reelected in the Republicans’ wave election of 2010 with nearly 65% of the vote. The only drag we’ve seen in these states has been on the district level where we’ve lost some seats in the House of Representatives.
There’s no reason to believe that a white presidential candidate wouldn’t immediately compete for the electoral votes of these states. Arkansas and West Virginia are both traditionally Democratic states, while Kentucky is more of a swing-state. What last night’s results show is that the president’s problems in Appalachia stem less from any Republican strength than from his weakness there among white Democrats. Since it is unlikely that the next Democratic presidential contender will be black, it’s also unlikely that the Republicans can rely on these Appalachian states to remain solidly in their corner.
I’d also like to point out that the dissension among Appalachian Democrats isn’t as strong as people might think.
The poll of 1,002 Tennessee residents who are 18 and older found 42 percent would vote for Romney and 41 percent for Obama if the election were held now. The survey, conducted May 2-9 by Princeton Survey Research Associates International for Vanderbilt, had a margin of error of 4 percentage points.
Geer cautioned that the registered voters among the poll participants favored Romney by a larger margin, with 47 percent saying they would vote for the former Massachusetts governor and 40 percent for Obama. He said that’s a more likely outcome in November.
If Obama wanted to…if he needed to, he could work to get his voters to the polls in Tennessee and make it a competitive race. That would be an irresponsible misuse of his resources, but the point remains. What the Republicans seem to think is Democratic weakness is actually a sign that racism is the only thing propping them up. That’s kind of depressing on its own, but it offers little hope for this November and even less hope later on.
I’ve been trying to find a way to bring up your central point in WV, that racism is the key to understanding the results. It clearly is, but no one wants to say it because that would be “rude.” Well, racism is rude. And pretending it isn’t a problem isn’t helping advance the citizens of any state where it is a widespread problem. I’m an “outsider” (here for 28 years, but still) and cannot be the one to say it. But the dialogue must be started in some way, or else we can’t fix it.
Maybe only George Tierney, Jr. of Greenville, South Carolina would have the wisdom to help us deal with this?
Sen. Robert Byrd was once a Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. He endorsed Obama over Clinton in 2008. There is hope for West Virginia, but there is still a lot of racial hostility there, and it makes it an inhospitable place for the president and any politician who would get too close to him. Sen. Rockefeller seems to be immune, probably because of his family history and the state’s reliance on the energy sector. But he stands alone.
Boo, there is a lot of racial hostility among the youth. This isn’t a problem that is going away if we continue to pretend it isn’t there, if we continue to accept excuses like “well, maybe racism plays a small part but it’s mostly because of other issues.”
I am pleased to see a number of candidates refusing to distance themselves from Obama. Proud of them.
I had a letter in our local paper after the primary:
So far a few Dems have sent notes thanking me for this. From the other side … crickets.
You know how Bill Clinton is seen as a pretty good president by a lot of Republicans today? And how Hillary is seen as a competent stateswoman and a moderate?
Only time will allow some to see Obama for who he is. When he’s no longer in office, people will relax about him. And his race won’t matter much anymore, even to the Democrats of West Virginia who just voted for an out-of-state felon over him.
His mere presence and competence will do more for race relations than anything else could have. But not now. Not while he’s still competing. Only later.
Lemme tell you something here. It isn’t “just” racism. The anti-homosexual sentiment throughout the working classes of this country is deep and broad. Sorry, but there it is. Deal wid it. If Obama does lose in November…if the fix fails and the tomato can actually wins…count the Obama gay marriage stance for the first big tactical slip.
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After 30 or 40+ years of media hammering regarding the equality of other races, a large percentage of the American public is essentially color-blind. Really. But the media pro-gay barrage is fairly recent and it has not been all that effective. Sorry, but there that is, too. Do not automatically count opposition to Obama as entirely racist in nature. His narcissistic front plus his recent so-called “support” of gay rights…quite possibly a forced move after Biden rode the public gaffe horse yet again…combined with his race and his failure to separate himself from the financial thieves who are still today industriously sucking the very lifeblood out of this country (See the Facebook IPO brouhaha for all you need to know on that account.) are driving many people away from him in droves. If his numbers get too bad, be sure to see Hillary Clinton ride to the rescue as VP. That’ll preserve the fix. But if she doesn’t/won’t/can’t/whatever? HOO boy!!! He’s gat a tough row to hoe.
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AG
So, Cory Booker’s failure to separate himself from the thieves on Wall Street makes him presidential material but the same feature from Obama makes him vulnerable?
Those things could both be true, but I think you need a theory that explains that.
“Failure to separate [oneself] from the thieves on Wall Street” makes anybody with with serious national position and recognition presidential material, Booman. That’s what fuels campaigns. Money, baby. Money. Real, PermaGov money and the massive media support that comes with it.
How well…and how long…that fact is hidden is the difference between winning and losing. You can’t hide it forever, as Obama is now experiencing. Eventually the true UniParty system becomes evident, and then a new scam must be run. I think Obama is still ahead of the truth curve, but he is not not nearly as far ahead of it as he was in 2008.
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At least Romney is out front about his alliances.
Obama?
Not so much.
Corey Booker in 2016 or 2020?
Could they run an Obama style faux reformer thing again with another black, Ivy League, “impeccable credentials and vacuous-to-repressive neoliberal politics” candidate?
If they can sell McDonald’s chemical-laden crap as “healthy,” they can sell anything.
Bet on it.
Bet on it.
Hype.
It’s what’s for dinner.
AG
Was it gay marriage that cost Obama in Appalachia in ’08, too? Y’know, ’08, when Obama actually opposed gay marriage?
Or was it the perception that he is a flip-flopper? (As proven by his totally “new” stance on the whole gay marriage thing.}
Plus…I’m not talking about “Appalachia.” Wherever the fuck that neighborhood really is. What, only in the Appalachians? Really? I call working class New England, western NY state and most of Pennsylvania “Appalachia North.” The midwest? Same same. The whole deep south? Fuggedaboudit!!! Working class white west coast? C’mon!!! he rust belt cities? Buffalo? Cleveland? Please!!! I’m talking about working class America. All of it.
The anti-gay thing is pretty heavy in minority communities as well. Bet on it. Call some street fool a faggot in any racial ghetto in America and see how fast the fight begins.
Get real.
Get outta the house, offa the media/web and out into the real world.
Please.
Obama done fucked up here. Politically if not morally.
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AG
I’m confused. Obama’s flip-flop on gay marriage cost him western NY state in 2008?
No, Steggies, it obviously did not.
Duh.
However, the perception that Barack Obama is a typical politician…poll-driven and success-driven rather than morality-driven… could very well not only lose him “western NY state” but much of the rest of the country as well. The idea that he is, as he was described in 1996 by Dr. Adolph Reed Jr.…
…could lose him the election nationwide.
Remember, it was his own “Hope” hype that got him elected in the first place.
Now?
Gradually, the picture that arises from his first 4 years is rapidly becoming more like the following for many Americans.
He started the “Hope” thing…the honest reformer idea, the “Yes We Can” meme…and he could very well hang by it if he is perceived to have been full of shit by the American public.
Which, on the evidence, he most certainly is. Full of shit, that is. His signing of the National Defense Authorization Act is all you need to know on that account. It is as regressive a piece of PermaGov legislation as has ever been signed into law in the United States.
“Hope you don’t get detained,” indeed!!!
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He has painted himself into a moral corner from which he cannot escape, and only the sad state of his opposition combined with the ongoing cooperation of the mass media in a political fix will save him from being de
selected.Watch.
AG
“…a large percentage of the American public is essentially color-blind.” We could debate the meaning of “color-blind”, but assuming you’re right, I think it’s equally (if not more) true that there’s a large percentage of the American public that’s not essentially color-blind.
I’m not saying that makes race the sole factor in the WV and AR primary votes. I’m just saying I’d be shocked if it wasn’t a factor for a good chunk of voters.
West Virginia has two Democratic senators
On paper.
Heh, indeed.
Republicans are crowing about Obama’s poor showing? How do they explain that one-third of Republican voters still cast their protest votes for candidates other than Romney?
They don’t talk about that because they’re trying to win a news cycle, for Pete’s sake!
To pick a nit, Tennessee isn’t a good stand-in for Appalachia because half the state, and half the population, isn’t in Appalachia. The part west of Nashville and Chattanooga is Southern, not Appalachian, and the delta flatlands west of the TN River are heavily Democratic. (Memphis, whose metro area is majority black, specializes in the sort of corrupt Democratic system that spawned Harold Ford, Jr.) Clarksville is conservative, but in a different way; it mostly exists because of the military and (as with Murfreesboro) exurban Nashville.
Bob Corker is from Chattanooga, and Knoxville and Johnson City are pure Appalachia. Anything west of there, not so much. The same, BTW, is true of Kentucky: west of I-75 (as a rough dividing line) is a different state from east of it.
Yes, but West Virginia is the only pure Appalachian state, and it now has DC suburbs, so…