If 2012 is going to be a wave election (either way) we will begin to get some signs of it before too much longer. Both sides still have very large arrows in their respective quivers, so we can’t assume that small signs today won’t be reversed or overwhelmed by future events. Still, we are reaching the point where data is meaningful and there are two things I saw today that seemed like they might be the first omens of a blowout.
The first came in an interesting article by Steve Singiser of Daily Kos Elections. Mr. Singiser explained what we can learn from partisan (or internal) polling. We know these polls are unreliable, but we also know that politicians don’t release polls that show them doing badly. If one party’s politicians are releasing lots of internal polls, and the other party’s politicians are not responding, that’s a sign of a coming wave.
In 2010, sixty-one percent of released internal polls were issued by Republicans. So far, this year, fifty-eight percent of released internal polls have been issued by Democrats.
The second sign of a wave election I saw today came from the extensive polling of Democracy Corps. Their introductory note tells the story:
Less than 100 days until the election, the latest battleground survey by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner for Democracy Corps shows Democrats with an advantage in the most vulnerable tier of Republican districts. The first Democracy Corps survey of the reapportioned battleground shows Republican incumbents in serious and worsening trouble. The 2012 campaign has just turned the corner on 100 days and the message of this survey could not be clearer: these 54 battleground Republicans are very vulnerable and many will lose their seats.
These members, on average, are barely ahead of their challengers and are as vulnerable as the incumbents in 2006, 2008 and 2010. Those elections we now know crystallized earlier—in 2010, incumbent vulnerability translated into anti-Democratic voting by March as health care came to a close in 2010. These incumbents are equally vulnerable but have not yet paid the price for the Ryan budget and their priorities, but it is clear that their support is now falling.
They break the candidates into two tiers of twenty-seven. The first tier is looking quite bleak for Republicans, and the second tier is looking wobbly.
For more than a year now I have been predicting that this election would tilt one way or the other, and not ultimately resemble the closely contested races we saw in 2000 and 2004. Will it be a repeat of the mild drubbings we saw in 1996 and 2008, or will it be more like 1984 and 1988?
For starters, no matter how badly Romney does, unless he is engulfed in scandal, he has more upside than Mondale or Dukakis. But he’s not as solid as a Bob Dole or John McCain, either. His weakness is starting to show up in the polls. His job is to turn it around with the selection of his running mate and a strong convention. Because, we are already seeing the first indications that the congressional Republicans are taking on water.
I also really enjoyed Steve’s writeup this AM. Thanks for putting this together. I’m trying not to get too excited but it sounds like a trend. I’m not worried about the Prez contest, but I really want to see us take back the House.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
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Higher highs and lower lows, it’s time to invest in Obama. Summer Olympics a sour note for Willard, he can best devote time on SLC, winter games and domestic issues. Where is his PR manager?
And the fact that Romney has more “upside” than Dukakis isn’t necessarily a sign of strength.
Dukakis didn’t have much upside at this time in 1988 because he was already up in the polls by 17(!) points, if I recall correctly.
If Romney isn’t ahead in the polls 3-4 weeks from now, then he’ll be in serious trouble. (Even if he’s ahead by a narrow margin, he’ll still be in trouble.)
The internal polling thing is a bit too much reading of the entrails for my taste, but the survey is very interesting — and surprising. If this holds, it suggests a shift from the issue being Obama to actual issues of taxes, HCR, and Medicare. Are the Dems finally getting through about the benefits of Obamacare? Looks like they might be. If so, it seems like the upside as the campaign goes on is all with the Dems, as the Reps have pretty much shot their wad while the Dem messages still seem new.
In which case there’s not much Romney can do about the Congressional races with his VP pick or much of anything else. If this survey and the analysis is accurate, and holds, this is the most optimistic indicator in some time. The article seems to almost suggest that redistricting didn’t hurt the Dems — it would be good to see more details on that.
Ya know, lots of people got checks from Insurance companies. Almost certainly, most of those were surprised (My brother was shocked). The people I talked to in KS and MO were puzzeled by the checks. They had no idea that Obamacare would do anything except kill their religious freedom and make them pay higher taxes. Now since the Central Limit Theorem applies to masses of people in addition to masses of data … Some of those people must be rethinking.
It is possible that this re-thinking is the cause of minor movement in the polls.
I’ve been wondering about that – so many ppl who’ve been agitating to get rid of Obamacare must be getting letters and checks. It’s got double impact too because sometimes the insurance co. sends a letter first.
Speaking of the convention, have you seen the lineup released so far?
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/article1244151.ece
Exactly who is Romney gonna impress with this bs. No speaking spot for Ron Paul or his spawn as I see it. Oh and Rick Scott, the guv with some of the lowest approvals ratings from his own constituents???
Please note the quote from the RNC chair and try not to laugh:
Don’cha just feel the excitement?
Only Huck has a chance of impressing non-Republican voters and that is with his charisma, not his views.
Kasich and Scott?? Was Scott Walker not available?
Martinez will be uninspiring. I have seen her speak to a friendly small audience and underwhelmed them.
Rice, can she resist shouting out to her old boss?
Wow, just wow.
Their campaign keeps talking about a possible woman VP. Nikki Haley?
Jenna Jameson!
nice one!
they’re just saying that to refute the “war on women” meme. All the women on their program have issues that make them a drag on the ticket
Not Jenna. She would be a great uplift.
Must agree with you there
Rice seems to be getting some PR placement lately. Somebody’s looking at her.
she can’t take the public scrutiny of being on the ticket
She also doesn’t have a political career to lose by signing onto a losing ticket. She’s a university professor with a book to sell, and as such might be one of the only people in the Republican party with something to gain by joining the Romney ticket.
Maybe true. But she’s pro-choice, which means the religious right will veto her (or riot on the convention floor if Romney picks her).
Isn’t Mittens still nominally pro-choice? I have to admit, I haven’t checked up on his beliefs in this regard for the last 3 weeks so I can’t speak with authority as to how he stands at this precise moment in time, but I’m pretty sure he had this story about a family member who had to get a back-alley abortion and died and etc, and so now he’s in favor of legal abortion.
Hey, I have a cup of cocoa that I can’t finish, d’you want to warm up with it? If not, maybe you could push it off on some single mom somewhere, that ought to provide a balm to her ills…
Per Wikipedia:
$100 million a month can really help Romney with that.
I hope this turns out to be the case, while one cannot take the presidential race for granted, things can still go wrong, yadda, yadda, the thing I have been freaking out about is the the lack of emphasis on trying to grow the number of Democrats in Congress.
If Boehner or worse, Cantor remains/becomes Speaker, it will be more grandstanding and obstruction. If McConnell gets to be Majority Leader, he won’t pussyfoot around with the filibuster, it will be gone.
Obama is the firewall and it is imperative for him to win. Now, it’s time to try and win the House and Senate as well.
The Democracy Corps link is very interesting.
I tend to think that pretty much every election turns out to be an anti-incumbent election these days, due to the sour national mood and economy. 2006, 2008, 2010, the electorate is bitter and irrational and vengeful. 2012 should in all likelihood be more of the same. Then right back around in 2014.
I tend to think D’s can win 40+ seats in the House and get their majority back. I’m not sure anti-incumbency bias will break so clearly in one direction in the Senate. Democrats can have a fine night overall this November, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see people like McCaskill drummed out with the Scott Browns of the world. It simply hasn’t been a good 8-10 years to be an incumbent senator, of any party.
I doubt the Democrats will have the guts to get rid of the filibuster on legislation or judicial appointments knowing the stakes there if you’re ever in the minority, but I hope they remove it for executive, non-lifetime appointments, whether they wind up with 51 or 61 seats next winter.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see McCaskill drummed out and Scott Brown survive.
I saw McCaskill in a debate on TV in Southern Illinois (probably was a St. Louis station) in 2006. She wasn’t a Bernie Sanders but was quite outspoken on Democratic support of the little guy and general Liberal principles. Unfortunately, like Melissa Bean (former IL-08), she talked the talk during the campaign but walked the GOP walk once she was sworn in. Mellissa Bean was turned out by the odious Joe Walsh, but not even her former volunteers would come out for her again and I’m sure some even refused to vote for her.
Didn’t Melissa Bean beat Phil Crane who was in Congress for like 36 years? I didn’t expect her to be a progressive since her district was clearly a lean conservative district.
She surely did and Crane was a drunken bum. But although the district isn’t San Francisco, it is by no means as conservative as IL-6 (mostly DuPage County). And Bean campaigned as a Progressive. Somehow, she managed to enrage both sides by dithering about voting for the ACA. She had an office in the same building as my oral surgeon and once I saw her being picketed by both sides, one for not opposing ACA, and the other for not supporting it. I guess that’s being “centrist”.
Exactly what happened to Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin in SD. She would not come out in favor of the ACA. The Blue Dogs were wiped out by that. Democrats in SD hated her position of non-support. She had a huge difficulty getting people to come out to walk door hangers at election time. Plenty of door hangers left on Election Day.
Warren is the one candidate that both the GOP and all of Wall Street will do everything they can to defeat. They know she’ll be huge trouble for them if she wins this Senate race. That’s the main reason Bloomberg has been backing Brown.
This is not the year to depend on defending incumbents to get a Democratic majority–especially in the Senate. This is a year to focus on red-to-blue transitions. Big time.
which red to blue are you thinking of – besides MA
I’m hoping for at least one here in the IN-9th, maybe a senator as well. Donnelly and
MourdockMr. Wacky are polling dead even.Shelli Yoder sounds like a great candidate, and so far isn’t Mr. Wacky polliing way behind?
Unfortunately no, Rasmussen 8/3:
Mourdock 42
Donnelly 40
Undecided 15
Would prefer still another candidate 3
I’d settle for forcing the sons-of-bitches to talk for 25 days until they got hoarse and had to stop.
I sincerely think that watching your senator read from the telephone book would cause a backlash against filibusters.
President Obama in Conneticut:
Pres. Obama: “Mr. Romney wants you to pay for tax cuts for him. It’s like Robin Hood in reverse. It’s Romney Hood!”
Romney Hood. hahah love it. I’m just waiting for some enterprising internet maven to come up with an image or gif for that!
OT, but question? people better and more informed than I is this really big news or just meh??
Syrian PM has defected.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19156286
Wow! That’s some link. The good old BBC tells us what’s happening in the world, while our MSM tells us what’s happening to the Kardashian’s and Lindsey Lohan’s.
There’s been some news about Assad’s regime beginning to crumble in the last 24 hours…this seems to support that.
I stopped reading at the word “first”.
It’ll be interesting too to see what backlash against the GOP War on Women will manifest in Governor’s races and in the state legislatures, seeing as so much of it has been waged at the state level.