Back in November, Nate Cohn took a look at the election results in Texas and basically poured cold water on the idea that Democrats will be able to compete there anytime soon. Cohn’s job was made more difficult because exit polls were not conducted in Texas in the past election, so he had to base his analysis on county-level data. Still, he was able to make a convincing case that Obama had done much worse with white voters in 2012 than he had done in 2008, even as he performed significantly better with Latinos. Another interesting finding was that Texas has remained basically static relative to the rest of the country.
Despite favorable Latino turnout and support, Obama did worse in Texas than he did four years ago and lost by a decisive 16-point margin. Looking back further, Texas hasn’t moved to the left: the state was 19 points to the right of the national popular vote in 2012; hardly an improvement compared to 19 points in 2008, 20 points in 2004, and 15 points in 1996.
These results seem to confirm that the Republicans were successful in polarizing the electorate along racial lines, at least in Texas. If we think of their strategy as an effort to counter a growing minority population by increasing their share of the white vote, they did exactly that in the Lone Star State, and the result was that Texas stayed precisely 19 points more conservative than the country as a whole.
Cohn predicted that this strategy had reached it’s full fruition and that no more white votes could be squeezed out of the electorate. But as long as the Republicans retain this high level of white support in Texas, the state will remain reliably Republican for quite some time. Cohn also acknowledged that the next Democratic candidate, who is more likely than not going to be white, will probably fare better with white Texans than Obama did the last time around, but the Republicans have plenty of cushion before they need to worry.
What Cohn didn’t really contemplate was that the Republican Party would splinter and fall apart. What do white Texans think about the new Republican National Committee report that recommends that the party agree to a comprehensive immigration reform bill with a path to citizenship and that advocates acceptance of gay marriage?
Ron Brownstein brings up another issue in the National Journal. Governor Rick Perry has refused to accept federal money to expand Medicaid, which is significant because six million Texans lack health insurance. One study estimates that Perry’s decision will cost Texas $100 billion over the next decade and result in the loss of insurance for as many as two million of the state’s citizens.
Rejecting the federal money might not pose an immediate political threat to Texas Republicans, whose coalition revolves around white voters responsive to small-government arguments. But renouncing the money represents an enormous gamble for Republicans with the growing Hispanic community, which is expected to approach one-third of the state’s eligible voters in 2016. Hispanics would benefit most from expansion because they constitute 60 percent of the state’s uninsured. A jaw-dropping 3.6 million Texas Hispanics lack insurance.
Texas Democrats are too weak to much affect the Medicaid debate. But if state Republicans reject federal money that could insure 1 million or more Hispanics, they could provide Democrats with an unprecedented opportunity to energize those voters—the key to the party’s long-term revival. With rejection, says Democratic state Rep. Rafael Anchia of Dallas, Republicans “would dig themselves into an even deeper hole with the Hispanic community.”
A January survey from Public Policy Polling found Hillary Clinton narrowly ahead of Marco Rubio and Chris Christie with the Texas electorate, which shows that things may not be as static in Texas as the last election’s results might lead us to believe. The same poll found that she led Rick Perry by a shocking 50 to 42 percent, which is the exact same result found in a poll by Quinnipiac released today.
I’ve argued this before, but I think racial resistance to Obama’s presidency is masking the true weakness of the Republican Party. And things aren’t going to remain static. There will be consequences to the Republicans’ lack of unity on immigration and gay rights. With the RNC taking an official position on those issues that is anathema to, respectively, the racist and evangelical bases of the party, we can expect further erosion of the Republicans’ hold on the white vote. Some of those voters will be receptive to a Clinton candidacy, but the real problem will be lack of enthusiasm resulting in less volunteerism, fewer donations, and more third-party voting.
A more recent Public Policy Polling survey shows Clinton winning in Georgia. Here’s Brent Budowsky’s take on it.
The prospect of Hillary and Bill Clinton barnstorming across Texas and Florida in support of congressional and statewide candidates in 2014 is a tasty prospect for Texas and Florida Democrats. And there’s more …
A new poll from PPP shows Clinton carrying Georgia in 2016. Another new poll from Quinnipiac shows that former Florida Gov. Charlie Christ, running as a Democrat, would obliterate Republican Gov. Rick Scott in a 2014 match-up by a 50-34 percent epic landslide, while Democrat Alex Sink would pulverize Scott in a 45-34 percent landslide.
What happening here? I hereby dub this Budowsky’s 60 percent rule:
How many Texans and Floridians want to cut Social Security? Nationally 60 to 70 percent say no. How many Texans and Floridians want to cut Medicare? Nationally 60 percent or more say no. How many Texas and Floridians want to cut Medicaid? Nationally 60 percent say no.
How many Texans and Floridians want their government bought by crony capitalists and big donors per the Citizens United case? Nationally more than 70 percent say no. How many would prefer the public option to being gouged by insurance companies? Nationally more than 60 percent say yes. How many Texans and Floridians want to be gouged on their credit cards with interest rates that were once called usury (Texans and Floridians hate usury)?
Here’s the deal with the recent Florida and Texas polls. In Florida voters know Clinton and they know Bush and Rubio very well. It is predictive that Clinton so powerfully obliterates two Republicans Floridians know so well. In Texas voters know Clinton and Perry very well. It is informative that Clinton obliterates the Texas Republican that Texas voters know the best, and would also defeat other GOP hopefuls in recent polling.
I don’t know that Clinton would run that kind of populist campaign. And I hope that other, more progressive, Democrats could do nearly as well as Clinton. But these are eye-popping numbers. I was hopeful that the Republican edifice would collapse last November. Romney really was bad enough that it could have happened then. But it seems to be happening now, the moment that you take Obama out of the equation and measure a popular white Democrat against plausible Republican opponents.
Hi Martin.
You need to close italics somewhere at end of quote!
Too quick on the draw. You had made correction.
I’m not over enthused about Hilary for President, but if she could redraw the political map that much it would enable a lot more Democrats and Progressives to get elected all over the place and change the dynamics of the political system – moving the Overton window and political centre to the left in the process.
So why do Durbin, Obama and others obsess about “the need to cut Social Security”? Is it a Death Wish? Or are they just obeying their corporate masters?
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/03/heres-why-budget-deficit-such-dc-obsession
Hilary was the wife of a Southern Governor. That makes her an adopted Southerner. A more Northern Democrat might not do as well.
I don’t know, but if you remember 2008 … very early .. Edwards actually polled the best among the 3 .. because he polled well in the South .. I don’t remember if he lead any states .. but it was close .. also .. he was perceived(via poll numbers) .. as being the most left-ish candidate .. kind of weird .. I know .. since he was also a DLC/New Dem as both Clinton/Obama were/are
But he was a Southerner and sounded like one. IIRC, he did well in Iowa or won there. His campaign collapsed when the infidelity rumors (which proved to be true) started.
He actually finished tied for first in Iowa(or a close second) in ’08 but had put all his eggs in the Iowa basket. I don’t think the rumors started till later, but I really don’t remember. He needed to break at least 40% in Iowa, but obviously didn’t since he didn’t have the money of Clinton or even what Obama did at the time. Didn’t he withdraw after N.H. or right after S.C.(which was the third primary/caucus)?
I think he skipped New Hampshire and didn’t he win SC? If not, then he was doomed as the Southern candidate. Obama probably got got 98% of the black vote which may be a majority of Democrats there. Against white candidates he should have won or at least tied.
You may be right about the rumors. I do think that a hint of scandal emerged shortly after Iowa, but it might have been disinformation.
And things aren’t going to remain static.
Exactly. You’ve got all these prognostications about 2014 and 2016 that act as if nothing is going to happen between now and then. In addition to everything mentioned above, I’d also note that Texas, Florida, and Georgia are all in the hurricane zone. Of course, Nova Scotia is probably in the hurricane zone nowadays, but at any rate the Republicans’ steadfast rejection of climate science and their opposition to federal disaster relief aren’t going to do them any favors.
Sadly, I’m not seeing any collapse here on the state level at all. Even begging and pleading couldn’t persuade anyone to run against the ALEC-owned state reps in our district. There are way too many state legislatures under total GOP control and they’re busily rolling back any and all progress made over the past century.
Sadly, not only is the Party splintering but each faction has begun to pride itself on its own purity. The one exception may be the Rove and Jeb Bush ‘looking for winners’ set. But Rove’s winners and Jeb’s struggling identity crisis, though well financed, is talking to empty rooms. Pretty soon it’s going to get tribal and Wayne LaPierre will be nominated.
It is really difficult to run in a red district as a Dem. Admittedly, I am not the ideal test case – not a native, didn’t know many people, not civicly engaged in a huge way, not known by many in the district. I had a strong issue on my side.
I lost 60-40.
There were 10 other Dems who were much better than I was. One guy was the president of the school board, a 40 year resident of his district. He raised and spent $50K. He lost 60-40.
Did you have a 3rd party candidate in your race?
I have been wondering what would happen if the tea party actually started its own party as a reaction to Republicans flirting with immigration reform, etc.
another one of these
oh, when will the White Savior come in and save us from all that nasty racism Barack Obama caused….
posts.
Yeah, I know that wasn’t the intent, but that’s how it comes off.
fuck them muthafuckas clinging to their Whiteness. tired of their asses being coddled.
I wish it didn’t sound like that to you. It’s just analysis.
“But it seems to be happening now, the moment that you take Obama out of the equation and measure a popular white Democrat against plausible Republican opponents.”
So what’s the lesson here? Quit running popular black candidates and the party thrives? If that’s the news, I can’t see it as cause for celebration.
I think Hillary was a good SoS as far as that’s possible, but if she’s going to be making Bill a cornerstone, or listening to his policy advice, I’ll be voting for the nearest Socialist or something.
The lesson is that the Democrats are even better positioned than Obama’s victories suggest. Yes, I do consider that to be a reason for celebration, even as I find it regrettable that being black knocks a few points off a candidate’s national vote %.
The fact that Obama can lose a few points off his margin and still crush the GOP in 2008 and 2012 – in a shit economy no less – is testament to just what a remarkable politician he is.
Archaelologists will be cataloging small finds from the latest SXSW site dig, and Texas will still be voting Republican.
I think racial resistance to Obama’s presidency is masking the true weakness of a Hillary candidacy.
Hillary’s success as a candidate in these early Southern polls has jack to do with policy positions or her career at State, but to fond memories of her as the white woman who went down swinging against the Islamo-kenyan socialist usurper.
The garrison in the Alamo lost, too. But they’re beloved to this day.
I don’t know, Davis. Hillary, who is now “Barack Obama’s Secretary of State,” not “Barack Obama’s opponent,” is the most popular political figure in the country, according to national polls.
She is, because of what she isn’t.
Not Republican. Not insane. Sure, that’s true.
But also not Obama — even if she works for him.
The country is full of people who aren’t insane Republicans.
Most of them don’t have Hillary’s approval rating.
I don’t think she’d be as good as President as Obama, either, but you can’t deny that she’s got game as a politician.
“Cohn’s job was made even more difficult…” because the Democratic party isn’t really doing much to seriously compete in Texas.
I can’t believe Cohn and everyone here is ignoring:
The recent GOP hand wringing re: why they were totally crushed in the recent election included the fact they are years behind the Democrats in their use of technology, social media, etc. to get out the vote.
Thus the notion a “red state” like Texas with its over 2 million Unregistered Latino voters can’t be flipped to a swing state or even blue– is hogwash.
The Democrats need to work much harder here. Instead the usual political/economic calculus is applied, i.e. “Texas is always going to be a red state, so we’re not going to spend money there/sign up new voters”.
Weak/stupid strategy, since I doubt the GOP will continue to run elitist, bigoted creeps like Romney. the next Dem candidate for POTUS won’t be able to count on getting 72% of the minority vote.
http://www.texastribune.org/2012/06/13/state-watches-voter-id-report-highlights-apathy/
Nonsense. Look at 2010. Incensed, engaged minorities roll detached, disengaged majorities in politics all the time. Cohesive minorities who think they have something to lose have an advantage over diffuse majority coalitions who aren’t sure if they have anything to gain, and it’s easier to practice the politics of “No!” and “Stop!” — there’s less explaining.
It appears you misread what I wrote- My point is the Democratic Party isn’t really trying to get the two million unregistered Latino voters registered as democrats, and thus possibly turning Texas into at least a swing state.