There are parts of this Michelle Cottle piece that I like and admire, and parts that make me cringe. I am beginning to wonder if my cultural antennae are malfunctioning because I am totally not getting this fascination with Senator Ted Cruz.
I was warned early on by Adam Bonin, who debated Cruz at Princeton, that Cruz was one of the finest debaters in the country. I know that the man has crazy natural talent. But I haven’t really seen him use it effectively since he got to Washington DC. From my perspective he has distinguished himself by being, alternatively, extremely rude and aggressively wrong.
I also don’t see him as having a lot of natural appeal. Being smart can be a turn-off, especially when it isn’t accompanied by basic manners. Insofar as he has some kind of Texas swagger, it really just seems like excessive self-regard. Even his wardrobe seems somewhat contrived, like he’s wearing a costume and playing a part. I felt that way about George W. Bush, too.
But Chris Christie is another matter. I’m from Jersey; he’s from Jersey. I totally get Chris Christie. I don’t like his politics at all, but I like everything else about him. If there is a characteristic that defines the prototypical Jersey boy (and it’s pretty true about the girls, too), it’s that they don’t suffer fools gladly. It’s almost not even considered rude to call someone an idiot to their face. Having lived in many different places, I have learned firsthand that Jersey personas come off as rude, curt, and condescending in most of the country. All that does is make Jersey folks value each other more. I’d much rather have an argument with Chris Christie than someone in Iowa. They’re too damn polite and liable to take offense where none was intended. With Christie, we share certain cultural assumptions, among which is that it perfectly acceptable to denounce an argument as moronic without it being a personal attack.
Chris Christie’s swagger strikes me as genuine, and I ought to be able to sense any sense of fakeness in his routine. He lies a lot, but that’s not the same thing as being fake. Not quite.
Cottle says, “Whether you prefer Cruz or Christie likely depends on your political and cultural leanings,” and that’s probably true. I like Christie better both because I have a cultural affinity for him and because he’s more moderate than Cruz. But, I think it’s more than that. I think Christie is more honest. I think he has better character, even though it would be hard not to.
Cottle is raising a different question, though. She’s trying to predict which of these two men will have more appeal to the Republican base. On that score, I think it’s obvious that Cruz has the advantage. He’s more conservative; he’s more combative; he has less reason to worry about appealing to moderates; he can explore the outer reaches of wingnuttia without consequences. And, as a racial minority, he gives permission to countless racists to compensate by supporting him.
If it’s true that rank-and-file Republicans crave a daddy figure, either of these men will do, but only one of them will speak unapologetically to their lizard brains. And that man is Ted Cruz. It’s not that he won’t suffer fools gladly, it’s that he’ll gladly be the fools’ Pied Piper.
I was warned early on by Adam Bonin, who debated Cruz at Princeton, that Cruz was one of the finest debaters in the country.
How long ago was this? Because there is a reason I call him “Tailgunner” Ted .. and it’s not because Cruz comes off as smart or anything like that.
How long ago was I warned or how long ago did Ted Cruz attend Princeton?
How long ago did Bonin debate “Tailgunner” Ted?
just yesterday you were telling us how conservatives are principled. surely the base won’t flip-flop on a principle they’ve strongly held for 5 years that foreigner born candidates can’t be president.
Christ.
If I acknowledge that there is a distinction between conservatives who actually believe something and the Republican establishment, suddenly I am unjustly crediting conservatives with the characteristic of consistency.
GOP…
Principles….
HEE HEE HEE HEE
Neither was McCain nor George Romney; so, they’ll come up with some lame reason why the Canadian born Cruz is a “natural born citizen” whereas, the Hawaii born Obama wasn’t.
What can I say? Being right does not give you license to be an asshole.
obviously, you are not from New Jersey.
Or New York. That’s where I was raised. And though I’ve been gone some 32 years, that way of seeing the world is very much alive within.
No, and most likely never will be.
Obviously.
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Huh. Come up to Canada for awhile. You’ll feel like Sam Kinison.
In terms of culture and environment, Ted Cruz ought to be more palatable to me than Christie. Not so. I do believe Christie is more honest and more decently human than Cruz.
There’s something about Cruz and his facial demeanor that just rubs me the wrong way. There is nothing about him I find admirable, even his debating skills. Christie may lie some, but I’ve yet to hear an honest sentence from Ted Cruz. And that doesn’t even get to his sheer arrogance and disrespect for his fellow Senators. One would wonder how he actually treats his constituents, though its early days yet to do that analysis. Now, if I could see his wife in an interview, I might could get a better feel for Mr. Cruz.
but god doesn’t love me that much.
that said, I don’t see how he gets anywhere given he wasn’t born in the US.
the gullible party of low information that falls for every push poll and chain-email saying McCain has a black baby, obama was born in kenya, hillary murdered vince foster, and Elizabeth Colbert had an abortion just aren’t gonna vote Canadian. atleast not after Rubio’s push polls get through with him.
I hate them both simply because they’re both Republicans. Any “moderation” is irrelevant to me because of what lies at the center of the Republican being: a maniacal desire to hoard money. That’s what they all want.
I get the fascination with Ted Cruz. He’s every “conservative” wingnut’s wet dream of a candidate. Rude, arrogant, self righteous and consistently adhering to the TP line — the guy practically walks on water. There are people who will stop at nothing to get him nominated.
I’d say Christie’s chances of being elected president are about the same as the likelihood of him becoming a prima ballerina at the Met. Cruz has maybe a 20% chance of getting the nomination and a 3% chance of becoming president.
No way Cruz gets to be Prez. I’ll grant you a decent shot at the nomination, but an asshole FROM Texas is and asshole IN Texas, and I’ll be surprised if he gets re-elected. Bubba likes sharp, confrontational, assholes (Tower, LBJ, Richardson, Connally, Bush, Perry, Hightower) but you got to be MANNERLY while you’re doing it. Cruz is not mannerly.
Cruz as Prez nominee would be the Sharon Angle of the US. The jerk doesn’t believe in ANYTHING and has (is) said EVERYTHING to gain power.
Nope. The Midwest (MN,MI,WI,OH,IA,IL)[85] won’t have it, the NE (NY,CT,RI,MA,VT,ME)[61] would puke first, the west coast will be laughing for 6 months after the election (CA,OR,WA,HI)[77] and Mid-Atlantic would gibbering in disbelief (PA,DE,MD,DC,NJ)[52]. Altogether: 275 And that doesn’t count FL, NM, CO, NV.
Aqua Buddha is already working the teabag crowd in Iowa. So, Cruz has some competition for that vote.
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Cruz, an Hispanic white, is no more a racial minority than I am.
Or any other white American who is not English.
White is white, I want my minority status back.
Cruz, like W, reminds me too much of an entitled, arrogant, bullying frat boy – much like the ones I used to run into in college. Eeeewwwww. And they were all conservatives too.
Which one will get caught first?
Both will provide Bachmann email sourced lies but during a debate, even if Cruz is better in his technique Christie’s bul**hit calls will always play the house.
The interesting debate would be Christie/Clinton. Much more to my liking.
I think some of Barack Obama’s appeal is his ‘ Midwestern sensibilities’.
I find Krispy Kreme to be a rude, irritating fat fuck, to put it mildly.
You call it ‘being Jersey’.
Well, that shyt doesn’t play in the Midwest.
Cruz is just plain stupid.
I went to college in K’Zoo, so I know how badly Jersey plays in the Midwest.
I bet you still bear the bruises to prove it.
I don’t think Cruz is stupid at all. A lot of other things, but not stupid.
If there is a characteristic that defines the prototypical Jersey boy (and it’s pretty true about the girls, too), it’s that they don’t suffer fools gladly.
Not to mention that they are the worst drivers, not usually a problem unless they cross over the border here into NY.
People in Jersey are firmly convinced that Massachusetts provides the worst drivers in the universe.
Shows what people from Jersey know.
Texans are the worst in the known, western world.
Indians from Delhi are the worst in the UNIVERSE.
A guy from Jersey once argued they’re the best drivers. Sure, they’ll cut you off at high speed on the freeway, just missing your fender, and — when you have the temerity to complain about it — give you the finger. But his point (and I couldn’t say he was wrong) was that they always miss. Sometimes just by an inch. What better proof of their driving prowess?
Spot on.
Also spot on.
And to be “jersey” back, in the Midwest we don’t care much for Jerky Jersey, the Garbage State.
Didn’t like that much, did you? That’s how we feel when people act “jersey”. Illinoisans will never vote for Christie. We voted for Richard J. Daley, fat, crude, corrupt, almost inarticulate, but he never insulted people publicly, even his enemies.
Addendum: Joe Walsh’s undoing was not his crazy ideas, which are unfortunately common, but his smart mouth. Even people who shared his nutty ideas didn’t like his screaming at a constituent.
You answered your own question there. I despised W as a phony and an asshole and a bully from first impression, but to the wingnuts he was their phony asshole bully. So Cruz is their man. Besides, Christie challenges people, and wingnuts don’t like to be challenged.
P.S. It seems to me that the prevailing Internet manners have much in common with New York / New Jersey manners.
Here is the real question, Booman.
About 6 months ago Obama won a resounding victory against an over-the-hill gang known as Republicans. The word was out among the believers. “We’ve won!!! They’re through!!! It’s just a matter of time.”
Cut to the present.
Obama is under heavy fire from the right regarding Benghazi, IRS missteps and CIA-related messing with the press. A new group of working-class rightiness heroes is rapidly appearing. OK, they’re not really, but a Spanish name and an in-your-face Jersey attitude can be sold that way.
So I ask you…who’s doing the selling?
The answer?
The media is doing the selling.
How?
Why?
Because the fix isn’t entirely in yet. Not for 2014 and most certainly not for 2016, that’s why.
bet on it.
Alla this foofaraw about the CIA, the State Dept., the IRS and other Fed entities? Gotta keep the fix options open.
Stick around. I know you will anyway…your suspension of disbelief in this whole political scam is so deep that I suspect it’s genetic.
So it goes.
Yeah.
But for whom?
My bet?
The usual PermaGov assholes.
Just as it’s always been.
Just as it’s always been.
Bet on it.
Watch.
AG
One can always spot an Arthur Gilroy comment long before reaching the signature.
But can “one “understand what it means?
On the evidence?
Not very often.
Not very often at all.
So it goes in Leftiness Land.
Sigh.
So it goes.
WTFU.
AG