Remember when I said that President Obama was going to receive severe criticism for standing up to his own foreign policy establishment? The neo-cons are honing their critiques. William Kristol was on CSPAN this morning blasting the president, and Charles Krauthammer is using the same arguments in this morning’s Washington Post. Let’s take a look at part of Krauthammer’s argument:
Putin doesn’t care one way or the other about chemical weapons. Nor about dead Syrian children. Nor about international norms, parchment treaties and the other niceties of the liberal imagination.
He cares about power and he cares about keeping Bashar al-Assad in power. Assad is the key link in the anti-Western Shiite crescent stretching from Tehran through Damascus and Beirut to the Mediterranean — on which sits Tartus, Russia’s only military base outside the former Soviet Union. This axis frontally challenges the pro-American Sunni Arab Middle East (Jordan, Yemen, the Gulf Arabs, even the North African states), already terrified at the imminent emergence of a nuclear Iran.
At which point the Iran axis and its Russian patron would achieve dominance over the moderate Arab states, allowing Russia to supplant America as regional hegemon for the first time since Egypt switched to our side in the Cold War in 1972.
The hinge of the entire Russian strategy is saving the Assad regime. That’s the very purpose of the “Russian proposal.”
That’s one way of looking at the world, but it’s a deeply delusional one. I don’t think Vladimir Putin is a humanitarian, but he isn’t totally indifferent to the site of gassed children. But let’s stipulate that Putin is primarily concerned with Russian equities in Syria. He’s also concerned with Islamic extremism on his southern border. What he’s not interested in is supporting radical Islamists in Iran. He isn’t pro-Shiite or anti-Sunni.
And we shouldn’t be either. In fact, this idea that the Sunnis are pro-western or pro-American is completely inaccurate. It’s true that we have longstanding working relationships with Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and some of the emirates in the Gulf. But we didn’t establish those relationships because we have some kind of preference for Sunnis over Shiites. In fact, the anchor of our Middle Eastern policy in the post-war era was Iran under the Shah. Because the Shah was a thug, we’ve suffered an enduring backlash from Shiites, but that doesn’t mean that the Sunnis like us much better. Certainly the al-Qaeda-aligned rebels in Syria have no love for America, but Arab public opinion is anti-American regardless of sectarian affiliation. Even the Christians are anti-American.
Krauthammer implies that Vladimir Putin wants a nuclear Iran which he believes will allow Russia to reemerge as a dominant force in the Middle East. He also thinks that preserving the crippled and morally compromised Assad regime will further Putin’s plan for regional dominance. Neither allegation is true or even modestly tethered to reality.
The simplest way of understanding why the U.S. and Russia have reached a point where they have enough mutual self-interest to work together on Syria is that neither side wants the Assad regime to fall to Sunni extremists. The U.S. and Russia have slightly different reasons for wanting to avoid that outcome, but since they share it it makes sense to avoid escalating the fight.
If the Assad regime falls completely, the resulting government will consider Russia an enemy and they will probably kick Russia out of its naval base and stop buying their weapons. Russia may also see an uptick in civil war veterans traveling to parts of the former Soviet Union to make trouble, as happened in the aftermath of the Russian-Afghan War of the 1980s.
America would welcome at least part of those consequences, but doesn’t want there to be a genocidal bloodbath carried out on religious minorities (particularly the ruling Alawaites, but also Christians and Druze) by battle-hardened Sunni extremists.
It’s hard to get your head around, but since the Assad regime has no prospect of ending the civil war and restoring order, the options available to the U.S. and the Russians align around a negotiated settlement that would preserve Russian influence in Syria and protect the Alawites from genocide, but that would remove the top regime officials and create some kind of power-sharing arrangement, perhaps on the Lebanese model.
If you insist on seeing this as a zero-sum game where either we win or the Russians win, and where we are aligned with pro-western Sunnis against anti-western Shiites, and that it all involves some dramatic game of dominoes in which what happens in Syria determines the outcome of the game, then you are going be wrong about everything.
But that’s kind of the neo-con brand, it is not?
Case in point. John Schindler, US Naval War College.
Still fighting the Cold War. Notice the reference to Truman. Does not think the Cold War is over.
What’s your Twitter handle? Also, Schindler is a bigot and an idiot. He’s also on the MIC version of wingnut welfare. Never can admit he’s wrong, or that the MIC does anything wrong. And to me it’s funny that this guy suddenly became a Twitter sensation after the Snowden stuff broke.
Twitter handle. Um, TarheelDem
Following you now! 😉
hehehe, that’s downright quaint.
US Naval War College — from Nitze to nitwits in 65 years.
If you a) want to invade and occupy every country in the Middle East and yet b) want to publicly oppose everything Obama does (even when he’s playing from the same game plan as his predecessor) you end up tied in rhetorical knots.
Power-sharing, rather than winner take all, is the only hope of a stable, democratic future in most of the middle east, and africa for that matter. When you have invented countries with unnatural borders the only other options is dissolution into separated states, which could work in some cases but on a practical basis won’t come to pass (perhaps it will happen in the Holy Land, but I’m not holding my breath).
Iraq has that power sharing model going on. As much as I opposed – and still oppose – the Iraq war, creating a power sharing government full of quotas was the smartest thing that happened there.
What? “…power sharing government ….smartest thing that happened there.” Every week the Sunnis suicide/car bomb 30 – 60 Shia a week. The Iraq oil pipeline has been sabotaged which directly effects the price of a barrel of oil. Partition with some kind of long term oil revenue sharing might have brought a better peace to Iraq.
Boo, do you think those pictures of Bush holding hands with Saudi royalty did not send a message to the Shia?
I agree. Eventually I imagine a Swiss system or something like it may be implemented.
ADAM ENTOUS, JULIAN E.BARNES, and NOUR MALAS, Wall Street Journal: Elite Syrian Unit Scatters Chemical Arms Stockpile
Asserts that the stockpile has been moved to as many as 50 sites. There is some tactical sense in that if one does not want to risk a site being overrun and large numbers of chemical weapons being available to the opposition. It’s not clear whether this makes disposal more difficult or less difficult. The analysis prior to the civil war was that most of Syria’s stockpile was binary weapons, which means that the chemicals to be destroyed are pre-cursors that get mixed, instead of the weaponized agents. Some already loaded shells or rockets might need more careful destruction.
As long as Syria declares these sites as part of its fulfillment of its CWC commitments, I don’t think this changes the situation at all. It might even improve the ability to dismantle the weapons quickly.
WSJ wants war. Will print anything to get it.
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See my comment – Murdoch’s Wall Street Journal Strikes Again!.
Do we need more Syrian Rebels propaganda pieces from Murdoch’s press?? What a bs.
The WSJ article let to a debate on twitter … read on!
Putin wants to be relevant. He wants Russia to be relevant. He wants to be an important “pole” in a multipolar world. “Russian greatness” has always been his thing (which makes his condemnation of American Exceptionalism hilarious), and it accounted for his great popularity in the early years of this century.
And his popularity wanes, he is once again putting Russia in a position of being the counterweight to Washington. He can offer Russia up as the antidote to American military hegemony.
He doesn’t give a shit about Assad or Khamenei.
The ninth most populous nation and second largest nuclear power is relevant, period. Russia and China together cooperate in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, one of the poles of the emerging multipolar world. And the SCO is critical to the US ability to leave Afghanistan. How’s that for irony.
Putin’s popularity arose from stopping the economic catastrophe that the US “shock capitalism” did to Russia and his reining in the oligarchs who began to operate as organized crime. He gained popularity outside the major cities by realigning the state with the Russian Orthodox church.
The United States has looked at international relations for so long through a zero-sum lens that it has missed many key opportunities to bring the peace and prosperity it claims it wants for the world.
Putin does not want to have to make the hard choice about abandoning another ally (Syria) or sink a US naval vessel. Obama doesn’t want to face a hard choice between a war with Russia and Iran, and leaving Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar high and dry. So both maneuver around the issue of chemical weapons.
Putin has done the following things that are useful to restoring peace and potentially opening a way to the resolution of the civil war. (1) He unexpectedly offered up Syria’s chemical weapons upon Kerry’s ultimatum. (2) He countered Obama’s belligerent rhetoric with a dignified and measured op-ed in the US’s leading paper, (3) He proposed the Nunn-Lugar framework as the way to verify the removal of chemical weapons from Syria as his opening offer to Kerry.
But the Cold War attitudes die hard in the US. It’s easy to make fun of Putin and to dismiss him and to demean him by accusing him of what every head of state wants – to be relevant. In this case, as Syria’s most powerful ally, Putin was relevant from the beginning and the US should have recognized that (and likely did).
All alliances are ones of convenience instead of friendship, especially NATO.
The US doesn’s give a shit about Cameron or Merkel or Hollande or, hell’s bells, any of the heads of state Asian countries involved the Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiations.
American exceptionalism is hiding US Machiavellian manipulations under caring, human rights, and a desire for world peace. Who is suckers is the American people, who blindly walk into one disastrous war after another. The rest of the world is pretty clear about America’s good points and bad points. And pretty dismayed about the turn the US took after the Cold War was over.
Yes, the longing for the lost power of the Soviet Union is an absolute element of this. Those were the days, Valdimir!
But Russia has really spent a lot of effort and diplomatic capital (as well as military assets) in making sure that the untenable Assad family dictatorship does not fall to the Arab Spring. I’d like to see some believable analysis about what the hell the real Russian interest is here, not this Krauthammerian Cold War drivel about some third rate “only naval base outside the Soviet Union!” and (vaguely unspecified) “dominance” over the “moderate Sunni Arabs”!
Behind a paywall.
Yes, it’s Neo-cons back to the Cold War and the Russian “hegemon”, just as TarheelD predicted a couple days ago. Back to the future! Note that the Krauthammerian “strategy” entirely revolves around frustrating Russian interests, no mention of anything to do with Syria and its people. The region is to be “dominated” by the Russian “patron”. Classic Cold War.
And what really seems to be an anti-ISRAEL “axis” is nicely turned into an “anti-Western” axis, as though Sunni extremism is wildly pro-Western as Booman notes. Leave aside that Shi-ite Assad family dictator is widely regarded as the protector of the Christian elements of Syria, but perhaps Christianity isn’t “Western”….of course Israel is the (unspoken) champion of the Western interests and great friend of the moderate Arab states. Ahem…
Also what exactly is the basis for the fundamental element of this looming new “dominance”—namely the declared Russian/Iran partnership. Somehow I haven’t read too much about their new co-ordinated military/diplomatic relationship. But they’re “frontally challenging” the pro-American Sunni Arabs! Tanks will roll! Soviet, oops, Russian Cruise missiles will fly!
So the collapse of the Soviet Union and its military never happened and we’re to fear the Russian colossus of 2013 and its (nuclear-armed of course!) Iranian junior partner. Quite an alarming prospect, if only there was some actual military assets behind the Krauthammerian threat….and some explanation of what the feared “dominance” would look like.
If the Nuovo-Soviets want to try to “dominate” the ME via intentionally exacerbating the Sunni/Shi-ite divide circa 2013, I say give it a whirl and good luck, Vladimir…don’t say we didn’t warn you!
Funny how completely absent – from both sides of the debate – Israel’s comfort with keeping Assad in power has been. Generally, in Middle East policy, “What does Israel want?” is the first, second, and third questions asked by the US foreign policy establishment. It’s almost like it’s the air they breathe – so basic that it need never be mentioned. And it’s been fascinating to see the neo-cons break with Israel on this issue – both by wanting to arm the rebels and now over military strikes – while trying to pretend they’re not doing so.
I can’t imagine Israel isn’t happier with at least the possibility of Assad kept in power but without chemical weapons, than with the escalation of a messy civil war where a whole lot of sworn enemies of Israel are getting lots of modern weapons and combat experience.
Israel is now in a hugely difficult position, which is why the neo-cons at AIPAC are having massive cognitive dissonance.
If, the momentum from this eliminates Egypt’s chemical weapons as well, Israel will be under tremendous pressure internationally (and maybe from the US) to come clean on their chemical weapons program. Maybe that explains the ambiguity.
When one takes away Israel’s enemies, what is left?
This is a great explanation, BooMan. Thanks. Makes all kind o’ sense. Friggin’ hate NeoCons.
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For Kristol, Krauthammer it’s about US National Security [read Israel] and Iran’s nuclear arms development. For Netanyahu and Israel it’s about the Zionist dream of expansion into the Jordan valley and security by keeping your enemy states in chaos. For Turkey it’s about self-interest and expansion of empire for sultan Erdogan. For the Kurds it’s about the economy, Kirkuk oil and an independent state Kurdistan. For Qatar (Muslims Brothers) it’s about regional power, economic/financial ties to Arab states. For Saudi Arabia it’s about religion as guardian of the holy shrines, wahhabism and defeat of heretics (Alawites and Shia). The broken promises and failure of Bush/Cheney in Iraq has firmed the stance of King Abdullah not to trust the US. Soon military contracts with the US will be transferred to France.
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Kerry and Lavrov have an excellent working relationship and are devoted to a political solution for the Syria crisis. Since the end of May, efforts of Kerry for diplomacy have been stymied from inside the White House. I suspect the NeoCon influence of National Security adviser Susan Rice as the culprit. Ms Rice has a close relationship with PBO and put sufficient doubt in his mind to take a tough stand on the Assad regime and threaten military action. Obama himself decided to step away from the brink of starting another prolonged war on a Muslim nation.
○ Kerry In Moscow – A Breath of Fresh Air May 7, 2013
○ Obama ahead of G8 – Syria Crossed Red Line June 15, 2013
○ John Kerry Again Rules Out Military Action in Syria June 26, 2013
○ Rice and Kerry: War Inside the White House Aug. 8, 2013
○ Barack Obama and an Act of War plus follow-up Aug. 26, 2013
If John Kerry and Sergey Lavrov illustrate their determination …
STEP 1 – Resolve CW issue on Syria
STEP 2 – Arms embargo and a political solution for Syria
STEP 3 – Resolve nuclear issue of Iran with president Rouhani
STEP 4 – Finalize a peace treaty between Israel and Palestine
Obama made a courageous decision stepping away from 35 years of biased US policy on the Middle East. Angry Arab states Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar plus Turkey and Israel. Praise from Russia, Iran and Iraq (Maliki).
Posted earlier @EuroTrib – Across the Globe, Praise for Putin ‖ Op-ed.
My first look at this suggests that Kerry’s channeling of Joe Biden had the effect of sandbagging Rice’s and Powers’s R2P recklessness.
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○ Syria faces a looming humanitarian disaster and is in the midst of an acute political paralysis
○ Syria and an Unique Opportunity In ME by Yousef Al-Dayni
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Came across this oldie …
Samantha Power, the Monster, and the Libyan Intervention by Frank Schnittger - Sept. 8, 2011
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The foreign ministers of the allied nations France, United Kingdom and the United States will meet at a top level meeting in Paris on Monday. By chance, or not quite certain what the UN Report will disclose …
○ Full 180º Swing on Position and Rhetoric by Kerry May 9, 2013
Putin doesn’t care one way or the other about chemical weapons. Nor about dead Syrian children. Nor about international norms, parchment treaties and the other niceties of the liberal imagination.
He cares about power and he cares about keeping Bashar al-Assad in power.
Gee, Charles Krauthammer, was it really over 10 years ago now that you and all the other neo-cons were telling us how deeply you cared about chemical weapons and dead Iraqi children, international norms (well, selectively that is) and other niceties? Of course you didn’t mean any of that either, but it’s nice to have our daily confirmation that wingnuts are 100% hypocrites.
Totally correct, Booman. It is the neocons that are still fighting the Cold War, and who for some strange reason still have major influence in our foreign policy establishment and our media.
Actually I know the reason. The Cold War was the darling of the military-industrial complex, and the entire history of the neocons since Scoop Jackson has been sucking the teat of the MIC.
The Cold War is over. That is not to say we have no rivalries with Russia and China, but they are of a different nature with different calculus, and all the old knee-jerk formulae need to be shit-canned, with the neocons along with them.
Obama must be careful. This is what cost JFK his life. Since 1963 politics in the US have been bribes, blackmail and bullets.
McCain will write op-ed for Russian newspaper
Oh Lord, This Will Not End Well!
I hope he is given the same courtesy that Vladimir Putin has received from American commenters at the the New York Times.
Not just any newspaper–Pravda, the party organ of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
Love the graphic.