Whenever Pope Francis I speaks publicly, I begin to worry about Kathryn Jean Lopez of National Review Online’s The Corner. When I read that the pope had said “that the Roman Catholic church had grown “obsessed” with preaching about abortion, gay marriage and contraception, and that he has chosen not to speak of those issues despite recriminations from some critics,” I just got the feeling that K-Lo’s blood pressure might be getting dangerously high.
After all, just three days ago, Ms. Lopez wrote a piece in which she compared the images of dead children killed in the 8/21 sarin attacks in Damascus to “the stories of babies, survivors of abortion, who are left to die at clinics and hospitals right here in America.” I think that is a rather explicit example of the kind of obsession with abortion that the pope is dispensing with. In other words, K-Lo’s approach is under direct fire:
“It is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time,” the pope told the Rev. Antonio Spadaro, a fellow Jesuit and editor in chief of La Civiltà Cattolica, the Italian Jesuit journal whose content is routinely approved by the Vatican. “The dogmatic and moral teachings of the church are not all equivalent. The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with the transmission of a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently.
“We have to find a new balance,” the pope continued, “otherwise even the moral edifice of the church is likely to fall like a house of cards, losing the freshness and fragrance of the Gospel.”
Of course, this is not all about Ms. Lopez or even abortion. The pope included “gay marriage” and “contraception” in his list of overemphasized issues. Remember that in late July, the pope made news with this:
When questioned on what his response would be upon learning that a cleric was gay, though not sexually active, the Argentinian-born pontiff said he wouldn’t judge gay priests and explained, “You can’t marginalize these people.”
“If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?” he said.
Pope Francis I isn’t changing any doctrine with these kinds of remarks, but he is making a rather clean break with his two most recent predecessors, whose tone and emphasis was much more in tune with the Reaganite Right in this country.
The new pope’s words are likely to have repercussions in a church whose bishops and priests in many countries, including the United States, often appeared to make combating abortion, gay marriage and contraception their top public policy priorities. These teachings are “clear” to him as “a son of the church,” he said, but they have to be taught in a larger context. “The proclamation of the saving love of God comes before moral and religious imperatives.”
I can’t say for sure how this new pope will influence American politics, but as a liberal I can say that it is a relief not to feel like the Vatican is fighting on behalf of my political opponents anymore. That’s not a comfortable feeling.
The many conservative bishops and the RW Catholics have been lazily leaning on the simplistic“intrinsic evil” based viewpoint. And they are going to have a tough time with this pope. He demands more than knee jerk following of a handful of fixed rules on behavior. No more worshiping a conceptual idol.
As an atheist myself, I find a lot this religious doctrinal arm wrestling entertaining at times. But I do have to say, that in a few respects, this Pope has some refreshing perspectives.
I wonder if this mean Catholic Democratic politicians won’t be denied communion by a bishop or priest?
Klo will just spin spin and spin some more. Her commenters are quite enjoyable though. They think he’s becoming more political by saying these things.
Also, Sullivan linked to you at WaMo. Might definitely give you more readership.
This will have ZERO impact politically, because the reich wing is all about bigotry, keeping women in “their place” i.e. powerless.
and the wingnuts have made anti-choice a major part of their pathetic platform. they’re not going to give that up just because the Pope finally attempts to (we’ll see if he succeeds) ease up on catholic wing nuttery and intolerance.
Call me silly, but I suspect that the pope is a rather influential fellow, especially among Catholics. So, I do expect it to make a difference, over time, when the pope takes a totally different tack in his messaging.
I’ll call you astute. And we don’t just have to look at his messaging but can also look at his appointments. From the Guardian in April:
Sandy Hook saw what? 24 children gun downed by a well armed madman.
THAT event was not enough to move congress to do what needs to be done on a national level.
I see no reason to believe the Pope finally (thirty years late) softening his stance on gays and abortion will have any impact on the wingnuts in the GOP.
I hope you’re not implying GOP fundamentalists are going to change their stance on abortion– that notion truly would be silly.
Well, the pope hasn’t changed the position of the Vatican on abortion, so no, I don’t think wingnuts will change their position.
That misses the point.
If you believe, as I do, that thirty-five years of papal brow-beating on abortion has something to do with the difference between the modern GOP and the GOP of 1978, then you would agree that a lack of brow-beating would have an opposite effect over a similar time frame.
Interesting point, but I don’t think the brow-beating is all that effective.. it became mere background noise for many people.
Had it not been going on for decades the GOP still would have gone insane over the abortion issue– and it’s time to face the fact the dems moving wayyyy right thanks to Clinton, Emanuel, etc, in the 1990’s.. that forced the GOP to become nutty, over the top in order to pander to their pathetic base.
They are not going to be “out conservatived” by the democratic party. Why do you think they hated Clinton so vehemently? because he muscled into their turf in order to deflect Gingrinch and win in 1996.
The new pope is better 🙂 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mokoolapps.wildlifepuzzles
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Is the South-American Pope preaching to the North-American Bishops? USCCB Media Relations Director Sister Mary Ann Walsh has tweeted 5 times in past 24 hours about the pope’s interview. Her previous average was once a month. This is her article – Pope Francis: An Exclusive, America Magazine’s Coup. It does look that way …
○ Read full interview A Big Heart Open to God
○ Cardinal Dolan’s press statement on Pope Francis interview
I do hope Pope Francis has overturned recent Vatican attitude towards US nuns, working the trenches of social issues – The Catholic Church’s Treatment of Nuns Is Polarizing and Alienating.
Cross-posted from my diary – Pope Francis Moves Towards Engagement.