The following excerpt raises so many issues:
As senators in 2005, Obama and Biden publicly defended the filibuster and the requirement of a supermajority to change Senate rules.
[Sen. John] McCain denounced any effort to change the rules unless there is a broad supermajority supporting the move. “We will destroy the very fabric of the United States Senate and that is that it requires a larger than numerical majority in order to govern,” he said.
First and foremost, what John McCain is saying is both correct and incorrect. When we talk about getting rid of the filibuster, whether for nominees or for everything, we are talking about doing something truly extraordinary, which is changing the rules of the Senate in the middle of a Congress, with a mere majority of votes. The potential consequences are so explosive that it has been aptly described as the “nuclear option.” Changing the rules in this way would set a precedent that would allow a majority in the Senate to change the rules as they go along to suit their needs, and it could result in all manner of mischief and discord.
Yet, the rest of McCain’s brief argument is dubious and misleading. For starters, the “very fabric” of the Senate is being destroyed, but it isn’t being destroyed by the Democrats. To see what I mean, go back to February 1st, 2001. That was the day that former Senator John Ashcroft was confirmed as the U.S. Attorney General by a 58-42 majority. At the time, the Senate was split 50-50 between Democrats and Republicans, which meant that Vice-President Dick Cheney split ties and gave the Republicans a technical majority. John Ashcroft had just lost his reelection bid to Mel Carnahan, who had actually died shortly before the election in a plane crash. Ashcroft was a divisive and controversial social conservative who the Senate Democrats had been glad to be rid of, and they were very unhappy to see him appointed to head the Justice Department. Nonetheless, no Democrat raised an objection to having a debate and a vote on his confirmation. In the end, eight Democrats (including liberal Russ Feingold) voted for Ashcroft’s confirmation, while 42 Democrats voted against it. Those 42 Democrats were signaling their displeasure, but each and every one of them could have stopped the nomination in its tracks by raising an objection that would have required 60 votes to overcome. None of them did that.
Compare that to what the Republicans are doing today. They are requiring 60 votes for virtually all of the president’s nominees, even ones that they overwhelmingly support. In many cases, they don’t object to the nominee but they just don’t want the position filled. That’s the case with three vacancies on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals:
“The court is currently comprised of four active judges appointed by Republican presidents and four active judges appointed by Democrat presidents. There is no reason to upset the current makeup of the court, particularly when the reason for doing so appears to be ideologically driven,” Sen. Charles E. Grassley (Iowa), the top Republican on the Judiciary Committee, said during floor debate.
The Republicans held up Richard Cordray’s nomination to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau for more than a year just because they opposed the very existence of the agency.
Then there is the case of Rep. Mel Watt (D-NC), who was just denied a debate and a vote over his nomination to head the Federal Housing Finance Agency. Rep. Watt, who happens to be an African-American, has seniority on the House Financial Services Committee that oversees the agency. But the Republicans don’t want a Democrat to oversee the agency, so they are arguing that Watt is unqualified.
In a floor speech before the vote, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said that Watt’s lack of experience in the industry represented the sort of “extraordinary circumstance” that he was thinking of in 2005 when he first helped defuse a showdown over presidential nominations.
The Senate hadn’t denied a confirmation vote to a sitting member of Congress since the 19th-Century, and that was really a dispute about slavery. The optics of filibustering a black congressman, while calling him unqualified despite his years of experience working on financial issues, are so toxic that it is astounding that the Republicans were willing to take the hit.
As should be clear, this isn’t part of the historical “fabric” of the Senate. This is a major aberration.
But, you might object, back in 2005, Sens. Obama and Biden defended the Democrats’ right to filibuster objectionable judges and defended the precedent that the rules could only be changed with supermajorities. That’s true, but things have changed.
First of all, we should distinguish between nominations to serve in the administration, which are basically term-limited, and nominations to the federal courts, which are generally lifetime appointments. As you saw with the Ashcroft confirmation vote, the Democrats were willing to vote in protest against certain administration appointments, but they didn’t block them or even require 60 votes for their confirmation. They could have done that, but they just didn’t.
Secondly, when the Democrats did filibuster some of Bush’s judicial nominations, they did so because they objected to something in those nominees’ records. They did not argue that no one, no matter how qualified and moderate, should fill those seats on the bench. They wanted different nominees, not no nominees at all.
So, the two things that have changed are that the Republicans are now requiring 60 votes for virtually all nominees, and they now using this nullification by filibuster to deny votes without any regard for the qualifications of the nominees. In the latter case, they are deliberately keeping offices vacant just because they don’t like the offices. This is why you cannot accurately accuse Obama and Biden of hypocrisy, because you are comparing apples to oranges.
Nonetheless, when John McCain says that the “very fabric” of the Senate is dependent on the idea that it “requires a larger than numerical majority in order to govern,” he is correct. Without that structure, the Senate would just be a smaller, less representative, version of the House of Representatives. It would be redundant in most ways. But the structure of the Senate, until very recently, has never required “more than a majority” to govern on most things. That 60 vote requirement had been reserved for only the most contentious and divisive issues. Yet, at this point, the Senate cannot even confirm non-controversial nominees, nor can it pass routine appropriations bills. And it must be beaten and kicked to even agree to protect the nation’s credit rating by paying our bills on time.
The structure of the Senate has been broken, and it has been broken by the Republicans’ obstruction. The rules are therefore no longer working and we have no compelling reason to preserve them. Unfortunately, if the Republicans will not relent, the filibuster will have to go.
I just wish Dems already made the change in the rules. Right now, they’re looking at doing it when the President is clearly at a low ebb in the poles. This will complicate the situation because Republicans will now scream about Dems ramming through an out of touch President’s judges–and optics sell!
In a lot of ways, the Dems represent the old, conservative ruling guard, institutionally, and this is hurting them. The Republicans represent ‘reform’ and change, deform and destruction more than anything. They are willing to push the boundaries of tradition and practice to get their way while Dems cling to the more collegial 1950-1994 era. Something has to give, but with a President who is losing public confidence, I fear even if the Republicans lose now, they win in 2014. Perhaps they’re forcing the situation because they know this?
“…a President who is losing public confidence…” Yawn. Your concern is duly noted.
The GOP scream about everything regardless of Obama’s polling numbers.
Not saying they shouldn’t do it now, just saying they would have been better off making the case when the President was a bit more popular. I don’t think I’m the only person who thinks this. Heck, it would have been better if the President came into office with a bit more focus on judges in the same way Bush did. After all, a few court rulings could kill his initiatives faster than they came into being in the first place.
At least Dem leaders, including the Pres, have finally awakened to the nature of the opposition.
“finally awakened” hah hah, you’re funny
“…because you are comparing apples to oranges.”
No, BooMan, not a fair comparison, because both of those are fruits.
It’s more like comparing apples to tire-irons.
I sometimes wonder if the Republicans in the Senate don’t secretly hope that it’s the Democrats who change the filibuster rule, and are pushing them to do so.
This way, the immediate benefit is that they can grandstand in front of the rubes in their base in the next election, and the general public, and scream about how that Dictator Obama and his apparatchik’s in the Senate are changing the rules because of tyranny, tyranny, TYRANNY!!!
TYRANNY, I TELLS YA!!!!!
And then, the long-term benefit being, when there’s another Republican President and Senate, they will have carte blanche to do whatever they please, without having to seem reasonable – knowing that Democrats, even in a filibuster-less majority, are always trying to be reasonable and accommodating.
And then, when they want to nominate a slew of Bork’s for the SCOTUS and the Federal Courts, and coal and oil exec’s to head OSHA and the EPA, they can say, “Well, let the Democrats cry all they want. THEY’RE the ones who brought this on themselves by changing the filibuster rules! And what was good for the goose…”
Republicans have absolutely NO interest in governing.
They want to rule!
Except that we can be sure the GOP, as it is currently constructed, will kill the filibuster the moment they retake the Senate whether the Dems have set that precedent or not.
There is no reason whatsoever, short of inertia and timidity, for Reid to keep the rules as they are. Go nuclear, get some stuff done, and consider re-establishing the old rules once the GOP has been utterly destroyed and a more reasonable opposition party actually interested in governing has risen in their place.
If the GOP retakes the Senate, they won’t get rid of the filibuster, because they won’t NEED to get rid of the filibuster, because the Democrats won’t USE the filibuster.
Except under extraordinary circumstances. And when the Repubs growl at them, they’ll back down.
So the filibuster simply does NOT help Dems at all, ever. Get rid of it.
Actually, I had meant to include that about the Republicans eliminating the filibuster when they control the Senate the next time, but now I read your point and think you’re right.
Why bother?
It’ not like the Democrats did anything remotely comparable during the 8 years of the WORST administration in our countries history!
So, why would the Republicans trouble themselves, when they can surmise that an even WORSE Republican President, with a Teabagger-majority Senate, won’t wake the Democrats from their slumber and fixation on comity?
While I’ve grown cynical concerning Republicans, I’m a little surprised they’ve pushed things this far. Presumably they don’t want to see the filibuster weakened, they get an immense amount of use out of it, and Democrats don’t want to overturn the filibuster if there’s any other alternative. And yet Republicans are pushing so hard, that the Democrats will have no choice, unless they want to give the minority the power to decide judicial positions should remain unfilled simply because a Democrat is President. And it’s not just the extreme Republicans either, they couldn’t support a filibuster otherwise.
The Senate differed constitutionally from the House in being representative of the states (and state government institutional interests) instead of representative of the people. The Senate by its composition of two Senator per state still is.
Supermajorities have nothing to do with the difference; they were imposed by the Senate itself in order to obstruct legislation. They are neither essential to its functioning nor to its constitutional basis.
Veteran Senators love the arcane rules of the Senate because it allows so many procedural options for playing games with legislation. All that is at issue with the “nuclear option” on nominations is taking away one of those games that allows Senators to avoid accountability for the merits of the nominees they confirm or oppose. Democrats let Thomas, Scalia, Alito, and Roberts on the court as a matter of Congressional courtesy.
That former system of governing is over. Democrats should realize that and stand up for the interests of the state that put them in the Senate and the people who elected them. For the past seven years of being in the Senate majority, Senate Democrats have not done that out of fear of breaking the decorum of the Senate. Enough is enough.
The filibuster is dead anyway. It just needs to be buried.
It had its uses, but there are after all good reasons why the Constitution doesn’t require supermajorities. Do conservatives still claim to give a damn about the Federalist Papers? This is from number 22.
I remember somewhere in there they give Poland as an example, but we’ve got a more recent example in California. The supermajority requirements in Prop 13 have been an absolute disaster.
It has uses, most having to do with legislative strategy rather than public policy.
The structure of the Senate has been broken, and it has been broken by the Republicans’ obstruction. The rules are therefore no longer working and we have no compelling reason to preserve them. Unfortunately, if the Republicans will not relent, the filibuster will have to go.
This is so spot on. It’s about time the Demos stopped playing Marquis of Queensberry rules with legislative thugs who use billy clubs as a matter of routine. You can bet that if the roles were reversed there would be no tut-tutting about “the very fabric of the Senate” from the people who have already shredded it.
Why the nuclear option isn’t used with an aggressive political PR campaign is a mystery to me. We are dealing with a group of rogues for whom “playing by the rules” is a quaint anachronism.
Nothing changes with our politics until the Republican party is fucking dead.
Period.