Back in July, Hendrik Hertzberg did an excellent piece in The New Yorker about what Alexander Hamilton thought about parliamentary rules that require more than a simple majority to come to a decision. Simply put, Hamilton didn’t like those kinds of rules. Here’s a snippet from Federalist No. 22:
To give a minority a negative upon the majority (which is always the case where more than a majority is requisite to a decision), is, in its tendency, to subject the sense of the greater number to that of the lesser.… The necessity of unanimity in public bodies, or of something approaching towards it, has been founded upon a supposition that it would contribute to security. But its real operation is to embarrass the administration, to destroy the energy of the government, and to substitute the pleasure, caprice, or artifices of an insignificant, turbulent, or corrupt junto, to the regular deliberations and decisions of a respectable majority.
In those emergencies of a nation, in which the goodness or badness, the weakness or strength of its government, is of the greatest importance, there is commonly a necessity for action. The public business must, in some way or other, go forward. If a pertinacious minority can control the opinion of a majority, respecting the best mode of conducting it, the majority, in order that something may be done, must conform to the views of the minority; and thus the sense of the smaller number will overrule that of the greater, and give a tone to the national proceedings.
Hence, tedious delays; continual negotiation and intrigue; contemptible compromises of the public good. And yet, in such a system, it is even happy when such compromises can take place: for upon some occasions things will not admit of accommodation; and then the measures of government must be injuriously suspended, or fatally defeated. It is often, by the impracticability of obtaining the concurrence of the necessary number of votes, kept in a state of inaction. Its situation must always savor of weakness, sometimes border upon anarchy.
I think that puts to rest the idea that the Founding Fathers put the filibuster into the design of the Senate. I mean, honestly, what is Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) talking about?
“This is the most important and most dangerous restructuring of Senate rules since Thomas Jefferson wrote them at the beginning of our country,” Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) said. “It’s another raw exercise of political power to permit the majority to do anything it wants, whenever it wants to do it.”
I know that Thomas Jefferson codified the Senate rules in his Manual of Parliamentary Practice, but one of his rules was that “No one is to speak impertinently or beside the question, superfluously, or tediously.” Additionally, the first Senate (over which John Adams presided) allowed the presiding officer to make a disorderly senator shut up and sit down. Under either scenario, Sen. Ted Cruz would not be allowed to read Dr. Seuss on the Senate floor.
I do agree that the rules change is a big deal. I’m still thinking through all the ways I think this simple change will alter our political universe. It’s taking up all my processing power right now. Maybe I’ll have something by the weekend.
I think you’re giving too much credit to the GOP. Oddly.
Once the nuclear option was put on the table by the Democrats, the GOP was going to use it as soon as it became available to them. Their argument would be that the Democrats were going to do it anyway.
And since when have Democrats filibustered an extreme GOP judicial nomination? Why is Clarence Thomas on the bench? Why is Samuel Alito?
The Democrats lost nothing today that wasn’t already lost.
Robert Bork. The GOP (elephants never forget) have been punishing the Democrats for rejecting proven nutcase Robert Bork.
You’re right, I think, about the importance of the Bork nomination (and defeat). One important fact to remember (or for the young ‘uns to learn) about that fight is that Bork was not defeated by filibuster. He lost on a floor vote, 58-42, with 2 Dems voting for him and 6 Reps voting against.
Actually, the original Senate rules “as written by Jefferson” didn’t even have the filibuster as we now understand it. In the early 1800’s, the rules were revised poorly and the possibility of the filibuster sprang into being basically by accident. The first filibuster threat was exercised in 1837, according to Wikipedia. So Senator Alexander knows as much about Senate history as he does about anything else. Well done, Tennessee!
Good riddance, I say. I’ve been frustrated that it’s taken this long for the Democrats to pull the plug since there’s no question in my mind that the Republicans would end the filibuster as soon as they’re in the majority with a Republican President and the Democrats threaten to filibuster anyone. We might as well get some benefit from it first.
Republican behavior over the past four years made this inevitable. I just wish we could rethink lifetime appointments; elections should have slow, but predictable effects on the courts in general and the Supreme Court in particular. We give way to much power to Federal judges, including undue influence over their own replacement (because they can choose who will choose their successor) and they are completely unaccountable (when was the last time a Federal judge was impeached?).
The filibuster isn’t gone. Expect to see all those applauding today’s move to cheer when a GOP controlled Senate kills it completely.
The GOP will force the Democrats to kill it completely before 2016. Unless Democrats run with the power they just gave themselves.
After due consideration, I think that convoluted rules no longer serve the purpose they were intended to–allow tempers to cool and promote compromise in an intensely intemperate deliberative body.
Procedural obstruction no longer promotes movement and compromise.
Time to expunge the legacy of John Caldwell Calhoun completely.
Hey, let’s not forget who first put the nuclear option on the table.
Well Alexander Hamilton seems to have nailed it
Pretty smart dude. Though I can never help thinking of him as Jefferson’s little toady.
Really? Why “Jefferson’s toady” when the two of them split and (basically) created the first two-party system?
You are mistaking Hamilton with Madison (or with Monroe).
Hamilton and Jefferson weren’t mortal enemies; they were only contending over the direction of a nation unlike Hamilton and Burr who were contending over control of New York State politics. But Hamilton was in no ways Jefferson’s toady.
God damn did we dodge a bullet when Jefferson beat that sack of shit Aaron Burr. Now that’s some bipartisanship for the good of the country (Hamilton throwing his support behind Jefferson).
Yep, you’re right. I was thinking of Madison.
Excellent work, BooMan. More of this.
Tedious delays; continual negotiation and intrigue; contemptible compromises of the public good.
Hey, Hamilton, stop picking on the Republicans’ hobbies.
Never heard it before, but I love the word “pertinacious!”
It’s like “perverted” added to “tenacious,” which is what the current GOP is.
The timing — mid-session — for a rules change may be the worst precedent for this move right now.
Structurally, conservatives have always been able to punch above their weight in the Senate. The House was supposed to moderate that advantage but gerrymandering has undermined that.
Back when Senators did their own work — before becoming pimps for lobbyists — there was something noble in the power of one good Senator to stop a very bad bill. It never actually happened and by the time it could have happened (Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, Patriot Act) one Senator was grossly insufficient. OTOH, if Senators took their duty to advise and consent to Presidential appointments more seriously and not use it as a raw exercise in partisan power and gamesmanship, the filibuster served no purpose. In the long run, getting rid of it entirely may not make any difference. In the short run, if and/or when the GOP regains the majority, it’s going to be the tyranny of the “red states” that constitute population wise a minority.
Interesting juxtaposition. “There was something noble about one senator stopping a bad bill” but “it never actually happened”. Maybe I’m missing something, but except for Bork, hasn’t the filibuster been employed to stop progress, more often than not?
Bork wasn’t filibustered. He was voted down.
Seems to be mixed. Until recently, filibusterswere rare and successful filibusters even rarer. Even then they delayed rather than killed motions.
Yes, but they only preserved the right of white men of property to vote, counted slaves as 3/5th of a human being for the purposes of allocating House seats, and gave itty bitty states two Senators.
Well, technically they expanded the right of white male property owners to vote…but, yes.
Otoh, the Constitution about which Hamilton was writing here included things like an Electoral College that served a more than vestigial function, and a Senate that was not subject to a direct popular vote.
The Founders–especially Hamilton–were just as concerned about the “tyranny of the Majority” as they were about “tedious delays, continual negotiation and intrigue.” The Senate was designed to put the brakes on the hoi polloi.
One could make the case that the filibuster, as used by the GOP in a way that the Dems never did, was just a different way for the 1% to exert more than their share of influence on Congress. I’m not making that case, or upholding the elite privilege embodied in either the principle countered by the 17th Amendment, nor the modern abuse of procedure in favor of that same elite, just saying, not 100% of the Federalist Papers is applicable to the Constitution we live under today.
Hamilton was a nationalist who was not made happy by the “Great Compromise.”
He would have preferred to abolish the states, altogether.
That’s all fine, but the point of Federalist #22 is that tyranny of the minority is even worse. And that point certainly hasn’t lost its relevance. Hamilton and Madison cite examples like the Polish Sjem, but there are more recent cases you could cite. Republican abuse of the filibuster, obviously, and then you can look at how we fucked ourselves in California with the stupid supermajority requirements in Prop 13. That basically allowed the Republicans to block the state from having a functioning government until they finally fell into superminority status. And hey, check it out. With the Republicans out of the way, suddenly we’ve got budget surpluses!
Has Prop 13 been repealed? Last I heard the Dems hadn’t touched it despite having the supermajority.
Well here’s a possible consequence: Judges will now be constantly targeted. Enemy researchers will search constantly for instances of questionable behavior (or behavior that can be spun to be questionable) and publicize them in an attempt to get ideological enemies removed from the system.
The abuse of the filibuster by the Republicans was so outrageous in this area (judicial nominees and executive positions) that the Democrats in the Senate really had no choice.
With judges, the test used to be whether they were competent and their “judicial philosophy” and politics was largely out-of-bounds. THAT’s the way the system is supposed to work. The Republicans have showed in their disregard for this time-honored norm that they have complete contempt for majority rule — when the other side is in power. The Democrats had no choice given the Repubs’ patent disregard for basic democratic principles.
I know I am not stating this as elegantly as you are, Booman. But I will modify one of your earlier conclusions in another post to make my point: “Thanks for [not] playing, assholes.”
Be brave. It’s a tiny step toward democracy. It might be good for us, in net.
How you would have worried about the impact of the American Revolution!
And agonized over the Civil War!
Democracy actually scares you, doesn’t it, Boo?
How many times have you suggested repeal of the 17th Amendment?
Not speaking for Booman here, but agonizing over the impact of war (including the 242 years of de facto war prior to 1861 against enslaved Africans in what became the USA) seems to me an entirely appropriate human (and political) response.
That’s nonsense. We all know Jefferson was a Pentocostal minister, and Hamilton was born again.