This one’s for Arthur Gilroy:
In recent weeks, [Sen. Rand] Paul has substantially toughened his line against Russia, ruled out containing a nuclear Iran (a position with which he had previously flirted), pledged support for U.S. aid to Israel (another flip-flop), and remained open to bombing Iraq. He’s also hired one of John McCain’s foreign-policy advisors.
Paul is not staking out these positions to win over actual voters. Given that ordinary Republicans oppose arming the rebels in Syria, want a negotiated deal on Iran, and want America to refrain more from intervening militarily overseas, Paul would probably gain greater public support by sticking with a more dovish line and thus distinguishing himself in a multi-candidate field. What’s motivating him is not the New Hampshire primary but the invisible primary. Paul has been ardently wooing GOP donors, who tend to be far more hawkish than Republicans as a whole, and who have threatened to mobilize against his candidacy. And according to Politico, he’s told several of them that his foreign-policy views are “evolving.”
I’ll say they’re evolving.
On the other hand, when it comes to foreign policy, it’s much less important what the public thinks than what they will support over the long term. They might support starting a war that will wind up being a quagmire that they don’t support. They might oppose taking a military action when it could be successful and decisive and then blame political leaders for not acting before it was too late. The one area where public opinion should be strongly taken into account is this: will your military effort have any chance of succeeding before the public turns decisively against it?
At the moment, the people are keeping our policymakers on a very tight leash, which means any endeavor that will require much time and sacrifice to achieve, should not be attempted. It will fail.
What does this mean for managing problems in the Middle East? It means that the answer must lie in multilateral solutions, and that any military action, whether air strikes or the use of special forces, must be done on a limited basis and in concert with a more comprehensive regional diplomatic strategy. I would not advocate a containment strategy for combating the Islamic State, but one that unites all the regional players against them. At the same time, where America needs to take leadership is in steering all parties away from strategies aimed at winning sectarian battles. This most definitely includes getting Saudi Arabia to chill the fuck out with their promotion of anti-Shiite jihadists. We can see where that has led, and it’s become at least a big of a threat to world peace as a potential Iranian nuclear bomb. Both threats need to be dealt with simultaneously, and with equal seriousness.
For all the faults of the Baathists, Syria and Iraq were pluralistic ecumenical countries not known for religious fanaticism, where religious minorities led quality lives and intermarriage was frequent and unremarkable. If anything close to that Humpty Dumpty can be put back together, the prerequisite is that the Sunni emirs of the Gulf stop attempting to wipe out the Shiites in Syria and Iraq. Then, on the other side, the government in Baghdad has to be inclusive so that the Sunnis don’t feel so beleaguered that they feel the need to support the Islamic State.
The number one priority should be sectarian reconciliation.
but, but, but……… perma-guv!
and Clinton looks old, don’t you think she looks ill?
perma-guv!
old and ill, no doubt about it.
perma-guv!
.
<post huge, meaningless, irritating picture here>
.
You forgot “wake the fuck up” and “bet on it.”
Watch.
Omertica!
Watch.
Omertica!
Watch.
Omertica!
Watch.
It really all comes down to the same word;
ME!
ME!
I!
ME!
.
Dope, drones, and domestic surveillance is going to drive the youth vote into Paul’s arms. Especially minority youth.
Bet on it.
All the pro-life feminists and all the free market hippies will flock to his banner.
Don’t worry, once Rush Limbaugh tells them what to think, the ditto heads will be all for war.
You need to redraw the borders of the Middle East. Full stop. You can’t create pluralism where it doesn’t exist. So you create reasonably homogeneous countries and then hold them responsible for how they treat their minorities. As you said, people were able to live together before.
But if they THINK they are a majority – as the Sunnis of Iraq do – and they KNOW they are disenfranchised, you will have violence. But a government that has no legitimacy will always lead to violence.
Carve states out around Damascus, the Sunni Levant and the Shiite south of Iraq (and Kurdistan). Let the dust settle.
Civil wars can’t be contained or controlled, but interstate wars can.
No, they need to redraw the borders of the Middle East. Most of the current violence is a result of the inevitable unraveling of the borders and alliances that we in the West have imposed on them.
It would be so wonderful if all of the sects and factions involved could all sit down in some great loya jirga, resolve all their differences, and redraw the map into some workable, sustainable compromise. I think we all know that’s not going to happen anytime soon. But to imagine that we in the West can re-impose some solution of our own is a folly equally as great.
If you look at Europe, national boundaries are the result of hundreds/thousands of years of horrific conflict. And some of that conflict is ongoing (former Yugoslavia, Ukraine, etc.)
And…seriously start a program that eliminates US dependency on oil. At least our military gets this.
What about rich individuals (not governments)in the gulf states funding the jihadists like ISIS? What is the plan to rein them in? Suggestions?
Rich individuals in the Gulf States are the government.
If the funding stops the jihadists are going to switch their targets to their former backers.
OK. Now that all of the leftiness kneejerkers have had their mindless fun…
Yes, Booman. It looks very much like Rand Paul is in the process of…at least publicly…copping out to some degree in order to put himself in a position to win the Republican nomination to run for president.
So nu?
Questions:
1-Name one successful presidential candidate who hasn’t gone through this process on one level or another over the past 50 years. The whole deal is a tightrope walk, and the media is tasked with manipulating that tightrope to dislodge candidates who do not do it.
2-Can you get behind a Dem who is better regarding rooting out the culture of corporate corruption that is behind the fall of the United States. Hell…can you even find one? Elizabeth Warren? Maybe, but she’s playing politics too.
If you cannot trust her on Israel, who can you trust other than some dark horse like O’Malley who stands little or no chance of winning the nomination, let alone the election.
3-It’s one hell of a conundrum, ain’t it?
Give me a solution other than the Business-As-Usual-Bipartisan-UniParty-PermaGov fix that has been progressively more strongly established in place since our glorious Assassination Era.
Please.
At least with Rand Paul there would be some element of chaos.
A Rand Paul vs. Elizabeth Warren campaign???
I wish!!!
Think of the sheer fun that would ensue!!!
Later…gotta attempt to blot out all of this foolishness by cooperating in the making of great music with a bunch of other radically aware musicians.
And…have fun.
I am.
Bet on it.
AG
P.S. To all of the leftiness kneejerkers here who seem to think that I’m some sort of right-wing troll…you do not have a clue about where I’m coming from.
Not a clue.
WTFU.
I’ve been fighting this fight since most of you were just unattended hard-ons in your father’s pants.
WTFU.
This praising nonstop about Warren, she’s going to bow to AIPAC or she will lose her money. I don’t think Liz is going to buck that trend. Dance w/ the one that “brang ya”
Didn’t Warren go into a tizzy over Iran? You can always tell when it is someone you don’t want to invest much trust in, when they start on the “Do something about Iran” bandwagon.
“He’s also hired one of John McCain’s foreign-policy advisors.”
Oh, no, he didn’t hire SARAH! did he ?!!!