Erdogan: A New Hitler Stands Up [Update-2]

Posted by Oui | Nov 28, 2015 | 15 |

[Update-2] The Red Line and the Rat Line

Seymour M. Hersh on Obama, Erdoğan and the Syrian rebels

will expand later …

A live event I watched with astonishment on AL Jazeera. I didn’t take more than 5 minutes of his speech to understand Erdogan was delivering a major speech. Using all false rhetoric of arrogance, fascism and the distortion of facts. Using the label “terror” very similar to and copying George Bush and Binyamin Netanyahu before him.

I must wait for the video or transcript, will publish as soon as available.

A few remarks from memory:

artificial borders have been drawn by colonial rulers
root cause of suffering along 900 mile border of Turkey with Syria
a hundred NGOs are operating inside Turkey with a foreign agenda
all one and the same criminal group: YPG, Assad and IS committing crimes against humanity
don’t be misled by mass murderer Assad responsible for deaths of 380,000 Syrians
Assad leads an illigitimate terrorist regime
many of our countrymen, Turkmen are suffering due to heavy bombardment
what gives a foreign power the right to establish itself in Syria
these powers are thousands of miles separated from Syria
Turkey shares a long border, splitting families and relatives
Turkmen have decide to wage battle and die as a martyr, not seeking refuge in Turkey
Turkmen share the same of our moral values
My three recent diaries …

○ Russian SU-24 Fighter Shot Down By Turkey
○ ISIS Terror Attacks Lead to A Franco-Russian Coalition
○ The Terror Trap Laid By Warmongers In the US and Israel

[Update] No Excuses from Erdogan, A Stern Warning to Russia

Turkish President Erdoğan warns Russia ‘not to play with fire’

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has warned Russia “not to play with fire” in the wake of a crisis between Ankara and Moscow following the downing of a Russian jet by Turkey on Nov. 24 near the Syrian border.

“[Russian President Vladimir] Putin says ‘those who have double standards on terrorism are playing with fire.’ I totally agree with him,” Erdoğan said Nov. 27 in the northern province of Bayburt.

“Indeed, supporting the [Bashar] al-Assad regime in Syria, which has killed 380,000 people, is playing with fire.
Striking opposition groups that have international legitimacy with the excuse of fighting against Daesh [an acronym of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, ISIL] is playing with fire.
Using an incident in which Turkey’s righteousness is accepted by the whole world as an excuse to torment our citizens who were in Russia to attend a fair is playing with fire.
Irresponsibly hitting trucks in the region that are there for trade or humanitarian reasons is playing with fire.
We sincerely advise Russia not to play with fire.”

Erdoğan also expressed his willingness to meet Putin during the upcoming climate change summit in Paris in order to find common ground and avoid a further escalation of tension.

“We are uncomfortable with efforts to take the dispute over the downed jet into other areas of relations. Let’s not allow that to happen,” he said, underlining that maintaining good relations was beneficial for both countries.

○ Putin approves economic sanctions against Turkey

Claiming that Turkey’s shooting down of the Russian jet was not “intentional” but simply a result of an automatic enforcement of rules of engagement, Erdoğan nevertheless argued that Turkey was right to do so.

“Turkey has proved its honesty” by releasing audio recordings of the warnings issued to the Russian pilots, he added.

Erdoğan also touched on the joint press conference held by Putin and French President François Hollande on Nov. 26, describing the former’s comments as “unacceptable.” Denying allegations that Turkey has been purchasing oil from ISIL, Erdoğan said the oil trade between ISIL, Russia and the Syrian regime had been documented by the United States.

Moscow decree putting economic sanctions in place and mobilizing armed forces in Black Sea region

Quite irritating, former US Ambassador to NATO Kurt Volker arguing in support of Turkey in a panel discussion/debate on France24. Had to see with what other purpose this useful idiot was putting forth this view from the US. Apparently, Volker has found a new purpose in life outside of NATO as leader of a John McCain “think-tank”.

A transport of 800 guns intercepted in Trieste (Italy) originating from Turkey, headed for Belgium –
○ Carico di armi da guerra sequestrato a Trieste | La Stampa |

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Oui on November 28, 2015 at 6:33 am
Did Turkey send a deliberate message to Russia & was the US involved?

Turkmen groups’ geographical location and their challenge to the Kurds territorial establishment are most significant to Turkey. Most of the Turkmens reside in the Kurdish territories with a high concentration in the Jarablus region, which is currently under ISIS control and cuts the geographic connection between the two Kurdish cantons, Kobani and Afrin.

“Turkmen groups are Turkey’s main allies in the Syrian opposition”

Turkey deems the formation of a Kurdish line in Northern Syria as a threat to its security and wants to prevent the formation of a Kurdish autonomy or corridor (from Qamishli to Afrin) at all costs. For that reason, Ankara wants to place Turkmen and some Syrian opposition groups in the Jarablus region with the aim of wiping out ISIS from the region. This will prevent the two Kurdish cantons – Afrin and Kobani – from merging and as a result halting the creation of a Kurdish line.

In contrast to Turkey’s policies, Russia has developed warm relations with the Kurds, mostly politically but also by endorsing the Kurds’ struggle against ISIS in the media. It can be argued that it was Russia that announced the Kurds’ Kobani resistance to the world. Moreover, unlike Turkey, Russia did not show a strong opposition to a Kurdish Corridor formation. It even considered it as a step for the creation of a democratic Syria and a means for eliminating extremist groups. It seems that Russia would also allow the Kurdish Democratic Union Party – which is a party Turkey regards as a PKK-affiliated group – to set up their office in Russia. Signalling Russian recognition of the PYD.
Shaun Appleby on November 28, 2015 at 6:36 am

He’s still just a pipsqueak on the world stage.
Oui on November 28, 2015 at 7:07 am
Did Turkey send a deliberate message to Russia & was the US involved?

Since the onset of the uprising in mid 2011, both Turkey and Russia have been intensively involved in the Syrian crisis, taking opposing roles. Previous to this, Turkey had a close co-operation with Bashar al-Assad, which developed as Turkey softened its water policy on the condition that PKK activities would be banned in Syria. However, with the outset of the Syrian crisis Turkey was one of the first and main countries that supported the Syrian opposition.

For instance, in all its capacity, Turkey has started to back a number of Syrian opposition groups, including extremist groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaeda affiliated Jabhat al-Nusra.

During the conflict between ISIS and the Kurds, Turkey shut their eyes to ISIS activities, including the crossing of recruiters and logistical supplies across the border. Although this strongly damaged Turkey’s image in international relations, for Turkey it most probably would be worth it if Bashar al-Assad would be ousted and the Kurds lose their territorial control.
Oui on November 28, 2015 at 8:52 am

Remember Obama’s call for hatred of Putin’s Russia for Sochi Olympic Winter games because of suppression of LGBT rights and homophobia. It was clear this was an orchestrated western call for a boycott of Sochi and global leaders not to meet up with president Putin.

Group calls for massacre against LGBTIs in Turkey

The discourse of hatred directed at LGBT individuals is echoing on the street. A group, which calls itself the “Young Islamic Defense,” has put up posters in Ankara, calling for a massacre against LGBTIs.

Source: Kaos GL, “AKP’nin nefret siyaseti katliam çağrısına dönüştü” (“Turkey ruling party AKP’s politics of hatred has finally turned into a massacre call”), 7 July 2015, http://kaosgl.com/sayfa.php?id=19785

The AKP’s politics is fueling hatred

The discourse of hatred against LGBTI deployed by President Tayyip Erdogan, the AKP government and the conservative media echoing on the street.

Participants of 13th LGBTI Pride Parade were attacked by the police. After, the AKP government declared Pride participants as “immoral” even though they proudly exhibited Pride in their election posters [as an example of freedom in Turkey]. “Conservative media” followed suit and fueled hatred.

The group, which calls itself “Young Islamic Defense” has been putting up posters throughout Ankara. The poster says, “If you see someone engaged in the dirty business of the tribe of Lot [1], kill the doer and the done both.”

Elections, homophobia, & authoritarianism in Turkey | Kaos GL |

Advocacy groups have criticized President Recept Tayyin Erdogan for using anti-LGBT rhetoric ahead of last month’s elections in which his Justice and Development Party lost its majority in the Turkish Parliament. Kaos GL on its website said this “dangerous homophobic discourse during their parliamentary election campaign provoked hatred in a significant level.”

“Homophobic and transphobic hate groups have received the message that has become prominent with the government’s attack on [the Istanbul] Pride parade and has called for a massacre,” said the group.

Police in Turkey attacked journalists during LGBTI pride parade | EFJ |
budr on November 28, 2015 at 10:41 am

Not to defend Erdogan, who’s taking advantage of the turmoil for his own purposes, but most of the points in your remarks from memory are mostly true. Which has a lot to do with how the region became such a mess in the first place. And until we in the West start recognizing our role in that, nothing we do there is going to make things any better.
The Voice In The Wilderness on November 28, 2015 at 11:10 am

artificial borders have been drawn by colonial rulers

root cause of suffering along 900 mile border of Turkey with Syria

a hundred NGOs are operating inside Turkey with a foreign agenda

don’t be misled by mass murderer Assad responsible for deaths of 380,000 Syrians

Assad leads an illigitimate terrorist regime

what gives a foreign power the right to establish itself in Syria

these powers are thousands of miles separated from Syria

The above points are true and I have no way of assessing the truth of the others, but they sound reasonable.

The Ottoman’s could have solved most of the middle east problems by voluntarily shedding themselves of their empire instead of European powers doing it after Turkey’s disastrous entry into WW I.
Oui on November 28, 2015 at 2:24 pm
Today’s assassination took place during a press conference in Elçi’s very own Diyarbakir province. The prosecutor’s office is located in the city where Erdogan held his address to his supporters today. Voices of protesters are our enemies, according to Erdogan. Incitement to hatred and worse …

Prominent Kurdish lawyer arrested in Turkey over PKK propaganda

Elçi, head of Diyarbakir province‘s bar association, made his assertion on CNN Turk TV last week, at a time when fighting is raging between PKK militants and government security forces, and tensions are mounting before Nov. 1 elections.

“Even if some of the PKK’s acts have a terrorist character, the PKK is an armed political movement,” he said during a discussion program. “It is a political movement with political demands and with very strong support in society.”

Istanbul’s Bakirkoy Chief Public Prosecutor’s office passed an order against Tahir Elçi after he referred to the PKK organization as an “armed political movement” with “serious support”.

Accompanied by his supporters, Elçi waited in his office for the police to arrive and execute the arrest warrant issued by an Istanbul court – a decision which had been leaked by Turkish media during the evening.

“If a bar chairman … is subject to a criminal investigation and arrest because of what he said, it illustrates clearly what state democracy and freedom of expression has reached in this country,” he told reporters in his office.

Elçi said he had been waiting all day in his office, within the Diyarbakir court house, for an invitation to go and make a statement in court.

Police from Turkey’s anti-terror force took him away at around 2:20 am (2320 GMT), said witnesses. He was due to be questioned in a courthouse in Istanbul’s Bakirkoy district, the state-run Anadolu new agency said.

The agency said the charge was “making propaganda for a terrorist organization”.

Elçi is the lawyer for Mohammed Rasool, a Kurdish journalist from Iraq’s Kurdistan region, who has worked for The Associated Press as a fixer. Rasool was arrested in August in Diyarbakir while reporting for Vice News. There is no indication that the Elçi order against is related to Rasool’s case.

VICE blacks out websites in #FreeRasool campaign
- The Voice In The Wilderness on November 28, 2015 at 3:52 pm
  
  “If a bar chairman … is subject to a criminal investigation and arrest because of what he said, it illustrates clearly what state democracy and freedom of expression has reached in this country,” he told reporters in his office.
  
  It certainly does. Namely, there is no democracy or freedom of expression. This example does support the diary’s title.
- Oui on November 29, 2015 at 1:05 pm
  Turkish newspaper editor in court for ‘espionage’ after revealing weapon convoy to Syrian militants | RT |
  
  According to the paper, the trucks were carrying six steel containers, with 1,000 artillery shells, 50,000 machine gun rounds, 30,000 heavy machine gun rounds and 1,000 mortar shells. The arms were reportedly delivered to extremist groups fighting against the Syrian government of President Bashar Assad, whom Ankara wants ousted from power.
  
  The Turkish authorities denied the allegations, saying that the trucks were carrying aid to Syrian ethnic Turkmen tribespeople and labeled their interception an act of “treason” and “espionage.”
  
  Pelin Batu, Ba Turkish TV presenter who worked alongside those who were detained, said that all they had done “was done in the interests of the country … because our involvement in Syria needed to be brought into question.”
  
  ○ Tahit Elçi: A livelong struggle for peace
  - The Voice In The Wilderness on November 29, 2015 at 1:49 pm
    
    “extremist groups fighting against the Syrian government of President Bashar Assad” and “Syrian ethnic Turkmen tribespeople” is that mutually exclusive?
    
    Why would peaceful Turkmen need artillery and mortar shells for self-defense? Machine guns in a war torn land I could see, but artillery is by nature offensive not defensive.
Oui on November 29, 2015 at 2:17 pm
Part of the CIA supported jihadists corridor from Turkey to Northern Syria …

Russia’s and Turkey’s objectives in fighting the Islamic State group are diametrically opposed by Pepe Escobar

For Russia, there’s no distinction, especially because a gaggle of Chechens, Uzbeks and Uyghurs (Chinese intel is on it) have sought harbor among these “moderates.” For Russia what matters is to smash any possibility of a future 900 km-long Jihad Highway between Aleppo and Grozny.

And that explains the Russian bombing of northern Latakia province. Ankara, predictably, went ballistic. The Foreign Ministry had even threatened Russia only a few days ago; the “Russian side’s actions were not a fight against terror, but they bombed civilian Turkmen villages and this could lead to serious consequences.”

Ankara directly supports Turkmen militias with humanitarian aid but what really counts are weapons; truck deliveries controlled by the MIT – Turkish intelligence.

This all fits into the ruling AKP party mythology of defending even pre-Ottoman populations; after all they always provided “good services” to Islam. Syrian Turkmen are as pious as the AKP leadership in Ankara.

The plot thickens

For Russia, the area known as Turkmen Mountain, or heights – which Turks call Bayirbucak – north of Latakia province, is a major target. Because that’s where we find the Weapon Highway – through which Ankara, side by side with the CIA, weaponizes these militias.

For Russia, any possibility of militias allied with Salafis and Salafi-jihadis trying to make a push to conquer overwhelmingly Alawite Latakia province is a red line because this would threaten Russia’s airbase at Khmeimim and eventually even the port of Tartus.

So essentially we have CIA weaponizing – those famous TOW anti-tank missiles – using a smuggling route through Turkmen territory which happens to be an al-Qaeda in Syria-run Ankara power base. This is prime territory for U.S., Turkey and Saudi Arabia to undermine Damascus, and most of all prime proxy war territory: NATO (U.S.-Turkey) against Russia.

The CIA spins the TOWs go to 45 “vetted” – thus “moderate rebel” – outfits. Nonsense; the weapons have been seized by the more experienced jihadis of al-Qaida in Syria, as well as the nebulae known as the Army of Conquest, supported by Saudi Arabia.

So to smash Jabhat al-Nusra and the Army of Conquest for good, Russia started to bomb the Turkmen smugglers, which are hardly “moderates;” they are infiltrated all over by Turkish Islamo-fascists – such as the ones who machine-gunned Russian pilot Lt. Col Oleg Pershin as he was parachuting, a war crime according to the Geneva Conventions.
- Oui on November 29, 2015 at 4:58 pm
  Syrian Turkmen commander who ‘killed’ Russian pilot turns out to be Turkish ultranationalist | RT |
  
  A Syrian rebel commander who boasted of killing a Russian pilot after Turkey downed Russian jet on Tuesday appeared to be Turkish ultranationalist and a son of former mayor in one of Turkish provinces.
  
  Alparslan Celik, deputy commander of a Syrian Turkmen brigade turned out to be the son of a mayor of a Keban municipality in Turkey’s Elazig province. He also turned out to be the member of The Grey Wolves ultranationalist group, members of which have carried out scores of political murders since 1970s.
  
  READ MORE: Russian Su-24 pilots shot dead while parachuting over Syria – Turkmen militia
  
  Celik came under spotlight after he announced that as the two Russian pilots descended by parachute after the Su-24 jet was downed by Turkish military, both were shot dead by Turkmen forces on Tuesday.
  
  Twitter message by Alparslan Celik – July 26, 2015
  
  ○ Al-Qaeda in Syria targets Turkmen minority | Al-Monitor |
  ○ U.S. weighs airstrikes, aid drops for besieged Iraqi town Amerli to save 1000s Shiite Turkmen from ISIS | CNN – Aug. 2014 |
  - The Voice In The Wilderness on November 29, 2015 at 5:45 pm
    
    In WW II we condemned Germany and Japan for shooting at air crew who had bailed out. Now we are silent as our “ally” does it.
Quentin on November 30, 2015 at 11:08 am

Oui, Erdogan is a new Hitler? Let’s keep things in perspective. Everything is already more than bad enough as it is. Let’s not try to unnecessarily go where there is nothing to find. Though my reaction to Erdogan is beginning to resemble the rabid hissy fits Putin arouses by many US cheerleaders in the west. But Hitler? No.
- Oui on November 30, 2015 at 1:23 pm
  In 2014 I took a deep breath and waited, today I decided to speak up … in the meantime on two occasions Erdogan attempted to set fire to his very own “Reichstag” in a false flag attack.
  
  ‘Turkey’s Erdogan following in footsteps of Hitler, Mussolini’ | Jerusalem Post | April 16, 2014
  
  Opposition party in parliament likened Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to 20th century fascist dictators.
  
  According to Today’s Zaman, Kemal Kilcdaroglu is quoted as telling deputies from his Republican People’s Party (CHP) that the Turkish premier, who has consolidated power by stifling dissent in the press while undercutting rivals in the military and other key centers of power in Turkey, is following the same path of Hitler and Mussolini.
  
  “Hitler was elected by popular vote,” Today’s Zaman quotes him as saying. “Mussolini was elected. They were elected, but after a while, they started to see themselves as the state. And humanity had to pay a very high price. Such events also took place in our democracy. We sent prime ministers, young people to the gallows. Supremacy of law is a most important concept. Everyone should internalize it.”
  
  Erdogan’s Hitler comments take their toll | Al-Monitor – July 21, 2014 |
  
  ○ Erdoğan aims at Russia with unveiled criticism on Syria | Hürriyet Daily News – Sept. 16, 2015 |
  ○ NATO prepared to defend ally Turkey against Russia | Hürriyet Daily News – Oct. 8, 2015 |

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