Amazing Day in polls: maybe some dem blogs will notice

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   Oui on January 13, 2016 at 12:09 am

   Bernie Sanders more authentic on certain issues than Clinton, says Biden

   (CBC) – Vice President Joe Biden described Bernie Sanders as more authentic on economic inequality than Hillary Clinton and defended Sanders’ record on gun control.

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   Sanders speaks to “a yearning that is deep and real” on issues of wealth disparity and people left out of the economy. He said Sanders had credibility on the issue, but that for Clinton, the issue was relatively new.

   “Hillary’s focus has been other things up to now, and that’s been Bernie’s — no one questions Bernie’s authenticity on those issues,” Biden said. He went on to say people question anybody who hasn’t been talking about the issue that long.

   He also said Clinton, who has coalesced much of the Democratic establishment’s support, had a high bar to meet as the perceived favourite to win her party’s nomination.

   “I never thought she was a prohibitive favourite. I don’t think she ever thought she was a prohibitive favourite,” said Biden, who praised Clinton at other points in the interview.

   ○ Joe Biden ‘Feels the Bern’–Boosts Bernie Against Hillary
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   The Voice In The Wilderness on January 13, 2016 at 10:22 am

   As if on que, Clinton then launches an attack on Single Payer suggesting Sanders was going to undermine Medicare and Medicaid,

   So much for the supposedly “liberal” HRC, warhawk and neoliberal.

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     Quentin on January 13, 2016 at 12:40 pm

     Really, wouldn’t Single Payer cover the entirepopulation so that Medicare and Medicaid would be redundant? Or is thinking of parallel systems, which would unnecessarily complicate everything?

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       on January 13, 2016 at 2:50 pm

       You just extend Medicare to cover everyone.

       Not complicated.

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         Quentin on January 13, 2016 at 4:59 pm

         Right, that’s what I thought, so why is Chelsea Clinton going around telling people Sanders would deprive the old and poor of health care when he wil create the single option for everyone. The Clintons have taken to big-time lying, the truth is getting under the skin:

         http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chelsea-clinton-bernie-sanders-single-payer_56956c06e4b05b3245da
         d15a

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           The Voice In The Wilderness on January 14, 2016 at 4:40 pm

           “taken to”? It’s their stock in trade. When the poison pen was directed at the Bush’s I applauded. I applaud no more. Partisanship is for suckers or those in on the graft.

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           on January 15, 2016 at 10:25 pm

           Front page of the concord monitor today was politifacts review of Chelsea Clinton’s statement on single payer.

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           Oui on January 15, 2016 at 11:39 pm

           ○ Chelsea Clinton mischaracterizes Bernie Sanders’ health care plan | PolitiFact |

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           Marie3 on January 16, 2016 at 12:38 am

           Bill & Hill may have been counting on Democrats to refrain from criticizing Chelsea for anything she says or does.  

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         seabe on January 13, 2016 at 7:09 pm

         Sanders’ plan would be state-based. I’m not sure why, perhaps it’s easier to implement, or he thinks it’s politically expedient (that doesn’t make sense, though). Whatever the reason, it’s fact that it’s state-based. So Clinton is basically saying that by making it state-based, you’re giving Republicans control like they have with Medicaid expansion, thereby allowing them to deny care.

         But, she’s not really attacking it as state-based. She’s attacking single-payer altogether. She’s also cribbing from the WSJ — or at least Chelsea is, as I saw her talking about Sanders’ plans costing “$19 trillion dollars”.

         Really, it’s just weird, and I gotta wonder whose idea it was to think this was a good way to attack Sanders’ plan in such a disingenuous and lying manner. She could have attacked the specific bill as being state-based; she could have said that it’s a good idea but politically unrealistic, blah blah blah; shit, she could have offered a public option to counter if she needed a way to differentiate herself. But no. She’s done none of these things. Someone in her campaign either poll-tested this line of attack and it resonates more than I thought it would, or she said it off the cuff one time and then the campaign decided to stick with it. Or maybe she thought she could shore up Obama’s base by indicating that Sanders is out to trash his legacy.

         I think she just puts her own political future ahead of ideologically winning an argument, so you see neoliberal attacks thinking they poll well and will secure votes. Think about her attacks on Sanders’ college plan. Obviously his plan is infinitely better than hers. Yet, she says she doesn’t want “hard working Americans to pay for Donald Trump’s kids.” To your average person, that sounds good, even though it’s terrible policy and will continue the same trend of “poor people’s programs are poor programs”.

         Shameful, absolutely shameful behavior, and a clear sign of desperation. She deserves to lose.

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   seabe on January 13, 2016 at 8:13 pm

   Clinton attacks produce windfall of campaign cash for Sanders

   The former secretary of state and her team have stepped up their criticism of Sanders on a variety of fronts in recent days as polls have begun to show him edging even with her in Iowa — and, for the first time, looking competitive in a national poll. But the Clinton strategy may be backfiring in some ways.

   “As of now, we are at about $1.4 million raised since yesterday when the panic attacks by the Clinton campaign began,” Briggs said. “We’ve gotten 47,000 contributions. We’re projecting 60,000 donations. Even for our people-powered campaign, this is pretty darn impressive.”