A year ago, the late Andrew Kohut examined how the Democratic Party has drifted to the left in recent years. In some ways, this is a departure (as on support for gay marriage) and in some ways it is a return (“liberal self-identification has edged up to its highest level in more than 20 years”). It has been hard to miss the signs. The centrist Democratic Leadership Council became so marginalized and irrelevant during the Iraq War years that it went out of business. The Blue Dog caucus in Congress has been utterly decimated since Obama was sworn into office in 2009. Joe Lieberman, the party’s vice-presidential candidate in 2000, was defeated in a primary and finished his career as an independent.
But, a party takes a long time to completely lose its DNA. You can date the modern Democratic Party to the election of FDR in 1932. For the first thirty-plus years of its modern existence, it co-existed as the party of the anti-Catholic Jim Crow south and the very Catholic and racially diverse northern urban machines and union movements. Even today, Democrats are more at ease than Republicans with making odd coalitions of convenience and settling for less than ideal compromises. Part of the reason for this, though, is that the Democrats controlled Congress almost uninterrupted for the first sixty-two years of their post-1932 existence. They had the responsibility to govern so they learned the techniques of governance.
The Republican Party’s DNA is different. They spent those first 62 years largely in the Congressional wilderness. They were siloed in the north and in the suburbs, and in the southwest and left coast. When they had power it was in the White House, and their presidents (including Reagan) had to, for the most part, deal with Democrats in Congress. Because the rank-and-file didn’t have to take responsibility for legislating, and because they didn’t like most of the legislation that was created, they developed a permanent minority, anti-federal government mentality. They also developed the tools and habits that make a minority party successful.
These characteristics have proven to be very resilient despite the 1994 Gingrich Revolution that brought Republican dominance to Congress, and despite the eight-year run of the Bush administration.
One area where Republicans have been able to fuse disparate elements is in the anti-choice movement, where conservative Catholics and evangelical protestants have made alliance over the forty-three years since the Roe v. Wade decision. We saw the fissure line there open up a bit last week in South Carolina when the Republican frontrunner and Pope Francis got into a fight over immigration policy.
The death of Antonin Scalia and the impending fight over his replacement are interesting in this context. Justice Scalia was the greatest living symbol of this fusion between the Moral Majority of Jerry Falwell and conservative Catholicism. Scalia was also the leading voice (post-Reagan) and most powerful player in the Conservative Movement’s long war against the FDR coalition’s legacy and accomplishments.
It’s not an accident that this symbiotic relationship developed during Pope John Paul II’s time in the Vatican and that it is on less solid footing during the papacy of the more liberal-minded Pope Francis.
These tensions should be kept in mind when thinking about what’s going on in the Republican primaries. The original victims of anti-immigration nativist politics were the Catholic immigrants of the mid-19th Century. The Know-Nothings and similar-minded anti-Catholic Whigs were merged into the abolitionist elements of the Republican Party from the very beginning. Call it the Jim Crow of the north.
Some of that DNA is left over, both in the nativist impulses of the right and the less hostile attitude of modern Catholics, including Republican Catholics.
There’s a big difference between how John Kasich (a lapsed-Catholic Anglican) and Jeb Bush (a Catholic convert) feel about Latino immigrants and how Donald Trump and most of his supporters feel about them.
And that helps explain why Trump has more appeal with evangelicals despite being a man of low morals and no apparent faith.
The very idea that Trump will encounter resistance outside the South is based on a simplistic and doubly inapt conception of “moderation.” The first premise is that, by promising to appeal outside of the Republican Party’s typical constituencies, Rubio is by definition more moderate than Trump; the second is that appealing to the center in a general election is no different than appealing to “moderate” Republicans in a GOP primary.
If this race is proving anything, though, it’s that what constitutes “moderation” to elite conservatives (relative dovishness on immigration aimed at swing voters in a general election) isn’t what constitutes moderation among Republican voters (restrictionist immigration policy paired with heterodox support for redistributive social policies). The big flaw in the assumption that Rubio (or anyone, really) can make up ground against Trump in blue states is that “moderate” voters are actually Trump’s ace in the hole.
As a (very) general matter, Catholics are more supportive of redistributive social policies than evangelicals. Look no further than the pope for proof of this, but it’s also why so many white Catholics in Congress are Democrats. Al Smith was a Democrat. JFK was a Democrat. Joe Biden is a Democrat.
But even evangelicals are more supportive of social spending than the libertarians and Wall Street elite. They aren’t free trade absolutists and they’re not clamoring to destroy Social Security and Medicare.
What Trump seems to be doing is winning over the evangelicals with his hardline on immigration without alienating them with his heresies against Ayn Rand Republicanism. And he’s muddling his message enough on social issues to seem moderate compared to his opponents.
It’s a sweet spot.
But it’s a sweet spot that’s sitting on some active fault lines.
His success is going to put the Republican Party as we’ve known it through some threshing blades. What comes out the other side is going to be a shredded mess.
The evangelical attitude toward the state and the poor has a lot to do, in my opinion, with Calvinism: those who are materially successful obviously are favored by God, whereas the poor are only poor on account of their moral failings and lack of initiative. Assistance for the poor must come from churches, which leaven their help with a large serving of scripture. The Godless state has no role to play.
Yes, but ironically the ostensibly Calvinist Donald Trump (“I’m a Presbyterian”) is providing a hybrid platform.
His nativism is straight out of the anti-Catholic tradition and it’s unlike anything you’d be likely to hear from say Rudy Giuliani. Well, Rudy is fanatic about Muslims, too, but there’s a specific reason for that. I’m talking about the more general nativist pitch of Trump.
But his softness on social issues (“we’re not gonna have dead people in the streets because they can’t get health care”) is much more in the Catholic tradition, even among conservative Catholics.
It’s all just rhetoric and signaling, I know, but he’s straddling these traditions while alienating them, too.
It’s find of fascinating that he’s found a way to have it both ways, and it’s working for him even while it’s causing stress fractures everywhere else within the party.
I’m curious if Trump is revealing a problem in the GOP’s strategy on the safety net. Their basic pitch has been to racialize the safety net: the “wrong people” are getting help. This was a clever strategy which leveraged racial animosity for the purpose of class warfare.
But, the rhetoric implies that government help is ok, as long as the “right people” are getting it. Which is not exactly the position of the Billionaire Daddies. Their position is that it’s a problem for anyone (except them) to get a safety net. That’s money that could be sitting in their Swiss accounts. Now Trump has decoupled racial animosity from deploring the safety net. He’s giving his supporters uncut racial hate, no diversions. Which possibly allows him to be unorthodox on the safety net.
Proclaiming that the welfare state is fine for US but not for THEM is a hallmark of the National Front in France.
I wonder how you, Booman, think about Mormons in the context of what you wrote above. Mormons were severely persecuted prior to the migration to Utah, and if you talk to a Mormon, you’re likely to discover that they have a deeply ingrained persecution narrative of their community’s origin. I’m sure you know that the governor or Utah alluded to this persecution narrative when he stated pretty forcefully that refugees were welcome in Utah.
Well, Mormons have a reason for distrusting the federal government. And, like Jews, their experience with persecution gives them an extra ability to feel empathy for others who are suffering from persecution.
They’re also truly evangelical in the sense that they want to spread to word to people of all faiths and ethnicities. It’s true that they have an anti-black history, but it’s a little different in kind from the Jim Crow south where fear and power struggles mixed with ideology and theology.
Mormons will stay on the right for several reasons. One is simple social conservatism in gender relations, sexuality and issues of vice.
Another is their history of persecution and their desire to govern themselves.
And, then, finally, they’re very business oriented and share some of that Calvinist ethos.
But, they can be allies on a lot of issues. Orrin Hatch is basically the author of the CHIP program that Hillary is always taking credit for.
What’s the Mormons reason for distrusting the federal government? It was always about only one thing and they agreed to give up that one thing in consideration for getting a whole state that was stolen from the native inhabitants.
Sheesh — their freaky religion isn’t even 200 years old; so, no historically they’re nothing like the Jews. And they have empathy only for their own kind.
What makes you think they have any empathy for their own?
LDS Inc, is doing diddly/squat for these. And before we get the obligatory “No Real Scotsman” arguments, these kids are definitely related to the Mormon Church of today, both philosophically and genetically.
They don’t seem to view FLDS as one of their own.
On a personal level every Mormon I’ve ever had any interaction with has been kind and often helpful, but that’s sort of part of their obligation to proselytize for new members. As Mormons have been sending missionaries out since within a few years after its inception to places near and far, there’s no more any genetic basis for the religion than any other “Christian” denomination.
In US history hasn’t isolationist fervor gone hand in hand with restricted trade? Trump is sounding some familiar tropes.
And, sorry if it offends, but Catholics of Dem flavor (esp males) cannot be trusted on female reproduction. They manage to find a way to compromise away protections. Late term abortions. Hyde Amendment. That bastard in the House during health insurance passage.
How about Mario Cuomo? John Kerry?
When you consider how aggressively anti-choice the U.S. bishops are, you should take note at just how many white male Catholic politicians are bucking them and standing with women.
They deserve credit and recognition for it, not to be called untrustworthy.
The recent Sex Trafficking Bill compromise that excluded abortion services for victims is a perfect example. (99-0 vote)
There’s your rape victim carrying the child. And Dems voted for it.
Kerry is a squish on late term abortions. That is probably the hurdle that most fall at (Biden, for instance).
In 1997, when Congress was first considering whether to prohibit partial birth abortion, Democratic Sen. Tom Daschle of South Dakota offered a compromise amendment that banned abortion for any fetuses that could be considered viable. [
Kerry voted for the amendment, which was defeated by an alliance of Republicans and liberal Democrats.
However, in response to questions from Beliefnet concerning the 1997 vote, campaign spokesman Jim Chon, emailed Thursday, “John Kerry stands by his vote.” (2004)
http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Politics/2004/11/John-Kerrys-Abortion-Ban.aspx#tgRpqHe1tMzBBwoI.99
Your latter point has merit.
Your former is a cheap shot.
Your asking people to vote against a bill to combat sex-trafficking because they couldn’t persuade Republicans to support abortion services in the bill.
Sorry, don’t see miles of difference between the compromises in the Obamacare bill and Sex Trafficking. Repubs know Dems can successfully be jammed on abortion access anytime Dems want to DO something.
Would they be giving up voting access in similar stakes?
Like maybe gun registration for sex offenders? I think that would get zero votes from (R)’s.
…that helps explain why Trump has more appeal with evangelicals despite being a man of low morals and no apparent faith.
Evangelical Christians LOVE sinners. If there were no sinners, there’d be nobody to forgive. Nobody to evangelize. So there’s this weird, distasteful co-dependence between the sinner and the one who forgives.
Another thing: The sinner, upon being forgiven and told he has a 2nd chance, is likely to be so grateful that he drops some coin on whoever it was that forgave him. Chances are that’s some sort of televangelist or megachurch.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t remember anything in the Gospels to indicate that Jesus had a toll-free number for sinners to call and make donations.
The whole sin-and-redemption schtick is a racket intended to reinforce hierarchy.
Gee, makes you think maybe that they don’t know or care about what they are speaking of.
And this all powerful God lets them get away with it for 2000 years.
Who’d a thunk it?
Anyone attempting to understand Trump through an ideological lens is missing the plot by more than a few degrees.
Beyond the issue of immigration he is all over the place. He appeals to the sense that what is needed is the truth teller – the person not corrupted by the current political establishment.
He could get up and say he is for reducing the social security retirement age and wouldn’t matter. Hell, he probably will say that.
The fissures in the GOP really are far less than in the Democratic Party.
I think you are right about Trump. It is scattershot populism for the most part.
The fissures in the Dems are economic, which has been finessed by social issues to the point of rebellion.
The Democrats need to return more to their FDR roots regarding economic issues. Social issues are very important, but you need the basics first. Maslow’s theory of hierarchy of needs comes to mind for me.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jan/25/cokie-roberts/have-democrats-lost-900-se
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The “bleeding” goes back to before 2008, too.
Have to wonder that while the issue between Sanders and Hillary is economic, the issue in the general between Trump and Hillary might be “the corruption, stupid.”
Does anyone imagine any of the candidates besides Bernie being intent to overturn Citizens United? LOL To junk the TTP and TTIP? LOL
Like Card Check and re-negotiate NAFTA.
Could Trump go that far? I’d bet on him before I’d bet on any neolib, frankly.
Trump shouts corruption every bit as loud as immigration, no? Is he the sinner who redeems? That’s a familiar trope, too.
Trump has spoken out against TPP. The problem is that, like Hillary, he says whatever he thinks you want to here. If forced to choose, I would say there is a better chance of Trump actually being against TPP than Hillary, but I don’t want to bet money on it.
Trump believes in himself and his own excellence. I don’t think he has any real beliefs beyond that.
A Democrat walks into a bakery. May I help you? Yes, please, I’ll have half a loaf and let me make it perfectly clear, I will take less. Why are you looking at me like that? I learned that from being in power so long. We used to be, since FDR, the Party of the People but those nasty Republicans created FOX News and they will NOT shut up. If this keeps up we’re going have to become like them just to survive.
I’m sorry; you’re at the wrong address. You must want Wall Street, just down the road. And remember, the servant’s entrance is in the rear. What’s up with the gold outfit?
You say you’re looking for the DLC? The DLC is not out of business yet. They just got a new name with a new owner. Its new home is the Clinton Foundation. Didn’t you hear? They staffed the 2008 Obama Administration and managed to get a slim majority in Congress for two years but the voters decided they wanted some real Republicans instead. They did however, keep the best parts becoming the Party of Big Money complete with interventionist foreign policy. They also took control of the Democratic Establishment but lost the youth, kept the leadership but lost a majority of the voters under 45, same as the unions. This year they are running an inevitable candidate for President with a DNC poison pill firewall in case those people get too uppity and try to nominate a Democratic Socialist.
Big Money is happy, especially with an open Supreme Court seat to get those voters back in line.
Clinton backers often say they like Bernie’s ideas but they must vote for Hillary and her electability because of the Supreme Court. I contend that you must vote for Bernie because of the Supreme Court. No more Scalia’s! No more Citizen’s United.
Did you see this:
CORE votes to endorse Bernie Sanders… Caucus leading the Chicago Teachers Union rejects earlier Clinton ‘endorsement’ by the American Federation of Teachers leadership…
Curious if Hillary holds typical neolib positions on education? That “might” explain that vote, given their wonderful experiences of Rham.
Here you go — from Politico, November 2015 — Hillary Clinton rebukes charter schools: The decades-long proponent of charters criticizes the schools for cherry-picking kids.
Another pivot with probably as much authenticity as all her other newly discovered leftish leanings. (This one won’t go down well with her BFF Melinda Gates.)
We really need an image of Hillary with a forked tongue pointing Left and Right like the old time cartoonists used to do. Bernie is too much a gentleman to sanction it. Maybe Trump or Cruz will do it in the General.
Hillary takes a position we like. Somehow this is used as a weapon to attack Hillary.
This shit is tiresome. And totally unpersuasive. Hacking on Clinton in these ways will not convert her voters into Sanders voters; it will just make Hillary voters dig in, because the argumentation is so preposterous. And counterproductive. It doesn’t reward Hillary for good behavior.
You don’t quite seem to understand there is a big difference between a newly arrived at position and one you fought for and have held for decades that did not start out with a popular tail wind. A politician who changes position with every shift in the political wind simply cannot be trusted for good reason. That image of a forked tongue pointing to the left and right is quite accurate but something Bernie would never do so you can relax. Trump on the other hand, I’m not so sure.
Trump just needs to take a selfie.
I understand the difference; it’s one of the reasons I’ll be voting for Sanders. But attacking a politician who moves their positions on issues in the direction you want by grousing “THEY’RE NOT TRUSTWORTHY” is politically counterproductive. The politician loses support from people whose policy preferences they moved away from, and gets little to no reward from the people whose views they responded to positively.
Additionally, what I see from a number of commenters here is that they project eternal good will assumed of Bernie’s motivations and history, and absurdly extreme bad will assumptions of Hillary and her history. For example, a few Frog Ponders have bizarrely attacked Clinton for the crime bill signed by her husband during his Administration; video of her “superpredator” press conference has been posted frequently. A fairer commenter would concede that, unlike Hillary who was not in Congress at the time, Bernie voted for that crime bill, and the commenter would offer an attempt to hold him accountable for that vote. That fair play is almost never offered here at the Pond.
I’d also note that the political winds from the left on economic and foreign policy issues, the most frequent critiques leveled against Clinton here, are almost certain to remain blowing in their current directions over the next four to eight years. If Hillary moves with the winds, then it is up to us and others to make sure the winds hold her to her positions.
Finally, it is important to understand that using rhetoric and imagery such as the forked tongue allusion used here is extremely offensive to many of us on the left. This sort of stuff is meant quite explicly to make the politician you hate a “non-person”, which is dangerous to fiddle with. The characterizations made of Clinton by many here call into the imagination a Simon Legree who cackles with joy as she gains support from voters she hates and proceeds to screw over intentionally. These ideas are simply unpersuasive to many of us.
No, I didn’t. Didn’t hear it on the local news either. Hardly surprising. That the news didn’t mention it, I mean.
Interesting bit in the Times today on Trump as the default anti-big business candidate of the populist right. Boy, are they in for a shocker. Berlusconi II?
“The Trump phenomenon caught everybody by surprise. Yet it is a manifestation of a fundamental contradiction long present in the Republican Party: Despite fierce anti-big-business sentiment among many Republican voters, no Republican candidate has emerged to champion them.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/23/opinion/campaign-stops/donald-trump-crony-capitalist.html?partner=
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So Andy Kohut is right — and every progressive blog is wrong?
Pull the other leg, it’s got bells on it. Everyone I know, knows the Obama years were a great shift rightward for the Democratic Party — Gitmo and Geithner, drones and Dimon.
Nixon was the last liberal president anyways. Chomsky said it. I believe it. That settles it.
ummmm….Sarcasm or reality?
No snark, I don’t know.
Given it’s Davis, I’d go with sarcasm. He gets serious on occasion, but it’s rare.
Not that he isn’t serious about his snark, mind you.
Thoughtful and original