Several of Billmon’s tweets yesterday went completely over my head. That’s not uncommon and didn’t pique my curiosity enough to look further until these two:
Billmon:
[1]@adamfffff @RaniaKhalek @Demos @MattBruenig And @neeratanden is one of the gatekeepers controlling access to that particular motherlode.
[2]Point isn’t really where they get their money now, it’s where more of it can be obtained.
Getting up to speed well enough to understand what was going on wasn’t as quick and easy as usual. Lots of history between the actors and the various organizations was involved, and I still only know some of that. But let’s start with the stars of this brouhaha.
Joan Walsh. For me, she resides in that category of media folks like Mara Liasson and Josh Marshall. More creds for being liberal than she deserves, but for me, she’s just not interesting as a thinker or observer of politics. Rarely bothered to read anything at Salon after 2002 and therefore, Walsh has long been on off my radar. (Noted her 2016 Why I’m Supporting Hillary Clinton, With Joy and Without Apologies, but as she could also have written it in 2008, there was no reason for me to read it. Guess Katrina hired her a few months ago to fill the resident crank slot.)
Neera Tanden. What I knew about her is pretty much limited to her Netanyahu interview. Giggling like a sixteen year old would have been unprofessional regardless of who she was interviewing. Completely inappropriate (and frankly nauseating) in a forum with Netanyahu.
Matt Bruenig. Can’t recall that I’ve ever read anything by him. Not surprising because he’s been at Salon and I haven’t.
Interestingly enough, yesterday was a big day for young-uns not staying in their political tents. Yahoo – Exclusive: Think Tank Fires Employee Who Questioned Ties to Donald Trump.
The Center for the National Interest, a Washington-based think tank [founded by Richard Nixon], has fired one of its fellows after he criticized the organization’s decision to host Republican presumptive presidential nominee Donald Trump for a widely publicized speech, Foreign Policy has learned.
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The employee, a junior fellow named Alexander Kirss, sharply rebuked the think tank for inviting Trump to explain his foreign-policy platform in an April 27 event at Washington’s Mayflower Hotel.
“Whether intended as an endorsement or not, the Center’s invitation is tantamount to tacit, if not explicit, approval of Trump’s positions,” Kirss wrote in a Monday column for the website War on the Rocks. He added that the businessman’s positions contain numerous “logical flaws and errors.”
Guess the “junior fellow” didn’t get the “we’re Vichy Republicans now” memo.
That leads us to Gawker – Liberal Think Tank Fires Blogger for Rude Tweets. (Elite boomers are really into trashing young people for being rude. As a boomer I get the preference for civility, but only if it’s not at the expense of honesty and truthfulness. The bigger the lie(s), the more rudeness is called for.)
The incident over which Bruenig was fired began to unfold yesterday afternoon, when he criticized Joan Walsh of The Nation after she published an article about “the presumption of moral and ideological superiority” of Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders’ supporters (many of whom, Walsh argued, are “trying to overturn the will of black, brown, and female voters or somehow deem it fraudulent.)
(Have to wonder if Walsh is writing her own (turgid) copy or Brock is ghostwriting it for her. But I’ve previously written about how the professional feminist class seems to have gone completely nutso in this election cycle in their fealty to a female legacy candidate.)
The tweets:
Joan Walsh:
I reject the moral superiority of a coalition led by white men vs. the will of black, brown and female voters.
Matt Brunig:
@joanwalsh It’s really about old people versus young people, but you know that.
Joan knows all this. Ben Jealous had to patiently explain it to her on All In when she tried this.
But the thing is Joan is very dishonest.
Joan Walsh:
Matt, you’re becoming a troll.
Matt Bruenig:
Your dishonesty on these topics is only matched by your level of animus towards young people. It’s kind of disgusting.
Joan Walsh:
Go to hell, Matt. Really. I have a daughter. You know nothing about me and your pathetic ageist sexism is tiresome.
Matt Bruenig:
I have a daughter too. Your pathetic ageism against young people (remember taunting them as “barely shaven”) is sickening to me.
But hey keep on gentrifying Harlem with your million dollar apartment you woke self-proclaimed centrist.
(It should be noted that Bruenig was mostly repeating what he’d said months ago in Joan Walsh to Young Bernie Sanders Supporters: Get Off My Lawn)
Several people weighed in as Matt and Joan engaged in their twitter tiff, then Neera Tanden jumps in. In support of Walsh and apparerently outraged by Matt’s earlier tweet – Your dishonesty on these topics is only matched by your level of animus towards young people. It’s kind of disgusting.:
Neera Tanden:
@joanwalsh Good to know this stuff isn’t just for me.
So, what was Tanden’s gripe about Bruenig? As much a mystery to me as the comment about a million dollar apartment. But Bruenig may have been hitting Tanden earlier with this report: The Intercept – Glenn Greenwald Nov 5, 2015 – Leaked EMails from Pro-Clinton Group Reveal Censorship of Staff on israel, AIPAC Pandering, Warped Militarism.
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The emails also provide crucial context for understanding CAP’s controversial decision to host an event next week for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. That event, billed by CAP as “A Conversation with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu,” will feature CAP President Neera Tanden and Netanyahu together in a Q&A session as they explore “ways to strengthen the partnership between Israel and the United States.” That a group whose core mission is loyalty to the White House and the Democratic Party would roll out the red carpet for a hostile Obama nemesis is bizarre, for reasons the Huffington Post laid out when it reported on the controversy provoked by CAP’s invitation.
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Or it could be Tanden’s emails advocating that the US charge Libya for the bombs we dropped on their country (that’s how ignorant people think). Or the Hillary-Tanden 2009 hush-hush emails on the ACA.
Neera’s tweet then began a twitter tiff between her and Matt which quickly devolved to:
Matt Bruenig:
[1]@neeratanden @joanwalsh Scumbag Neera uses welfare when she needs it then takes away from others when they need it. Disgusting.
[2]@neeratanden @joanwalsh But hey I understand the hustle. You don’t get to be president of CAP without starving some poor mothers.
That apparently crossed the line among the liberal think-tank elites (who must all be on speed dial to each other) and apparently are ignorant of the scumbag meme that Matt used. Matt was quickly let go from Demos. A “think tank” that I’d never heard of before yesterday, but they along with lobbyists seem to be the only growth industries in DC. Matt quickly set up a GoFundMe site to get him through this sudden and unexpected period of unemployment.
Billmon:
[1] FYI, in case you feel inclined to contribute to the Bruenig bailout: https://www.gofundme.com/259kuchp
[2] $21,684 in one hour is not too shabby. Way to go, people.
[3] Just think of every donation as one more “fuck you” to folks who made the Bruenig bailout necessary in the 1st place
Amber A’Lee Frost:
Matt Bruenig now officially has more small donors than Hillary Clinton.
Cute. More interesting to me is how thin-skinned these two elite HRC women are and how quickly they called on Bruenig’s employer and got them to respond by firing Matt. It was merely twitter-tiffs not anything important like a battle on cable news shows. (The Tanden fans are busy claiming that Matt lied about her support for welfare cuts. She’s only been in bed with those that did cut welfare and seek further cuts through that “grand bargain” for twenty years. Tough shit that her fans don’t want to hold her responsible for the company she keeps. But that’s also consistent among the Hillbots because they see nothing wrong in her close relationships with Kissinger, Blankfein, etc.)
Those thin-skins aren’t going to serve them well when Trump and his surrogates launch their attacks on these Democratic elites. Like Bruenig, Trump, etc. know how scummy and compromised all of them are; so, Achilles Heels and jugular veins won’t be hard to find. Too bad those Democrats won’t be any better at exposing the scum-suckers on the other side than they’ve ever been since about 1966.
UPDATE – Billmon remains on the case Lessons of the Bruenig Bailout and ties it together with comments on the political duopoly that were tweeted right before the following:
Cathy Young
@enbrown @freddiedeboer Oh I agree, and I think the GoFundMe is in really bad taste
Billmon:
[1] It’s fascinating how miffed (angry, even) the political literati are about the Bruenig bailout:
[2] Seems like more than just dislike for Bruenig or misogyny, harrassment claims. Genuinely offended powerless & unconnected have resources…
[3] …that aren’t dispensed from above, by the same power structure that delivers their pay checks.
[4]I vividly remember same reaction from pundit elites (including liberals) when blogosphere first started snowballing. Horror, revulsion.
[5]Really drove him for me how much the liberal literati resented change: especially change that empowered the lower orders.
[6]Early left bloggers (before species was domesticated) were proverbial skunks at liberal garden party, even though most were hardly radical.
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[x] Combine social disruption in Dem politics with economic churn in paid media — collapse of old business models, professional insecurity…
[y]…and the ability of uppity left blogger to raise $25k in 2 hours online, just from getting fired for insulting a VSP is really threatening
There more.
The hard right turn that Israel has just taken is gonna give neocon Dems fits with the rank and file, too.
Taking Libyan oil to reimburse us for their bombing in order that we will be agreeable to bomb the next country…that worked so well in Iraq.
A bit more chaos in the ME fits well in the MIC strategy, no matter whether Dem or Repugs in the White House. Israel a fascist state was a long time coming and nurtured by the US and western powers as key ally that could act with impunity. Watch Turkey turning fascist too with Erdogan as authoritarian leader … our key NATO ally to block Russian from influence in Near Asia and the Caspian Sea resources.
○ Turkey enters a not-so-promising new era | Hürriyet Daily News |
○ BREAKING: Yaalon Quits as Defense Minister, Attacks Netanyahu’s Leadership | Tikun Olam |
Ironically, Trump’s cowboy isolationism is probably the best chance we have at bringing Israel and Turkey to heel.
For anyone even -thinking- of using the “Matt made his employer look bad” excuse:
Does anyone believe for a second that Matt would have been fired if this exchange involved Trump instead of Neera?
Let’s be clear; this isn’t about ‘bad behavior’ (and certainly not harassment), this is about an elite liberal with HRC access attacking someone’s wallet to silence them. This is straight-up Gestapo shit and only serves to show that the Democratic Party intends to erase any differences between them and the GOP death cult so long as “but they’re STILL worse” is literally true on some level.
That’s your read — and mine as well. However, for those that can’t comprehend that a politician lining his/her pockets with Wall St. cash will not be in the service of his/her funders, they keep bleating that it’s the tone of Bernie folks that’s causing all these issues.
Morbidly fascinating perhaps, but mostly just reinforces my opinion that “tweets” are not only a giant waste of time, but positively destructive of intelligent discourse. Those messages back and forth between the contending parties were mainly juvenile insults. They weren’t even clever.
They’re conversations and often when people feel less inhibited or let their carefully nurtured public mask slip.
All modern communication tech may in fact be harmful to intelligent discourse — but there’s never been much intelligent discourse between humans anyway; so, probably not much is lost.
Have you ever read transcripts of ordinary people talking among themselves? It veres towards juvenile, isn’t clever and is generally exceedingly boring, but at least tweets eliminate all the “uhs, ahs, you knows, etc.;” so, doesn’t take as long to read.
Hey didn’t MNPundit comment just the other day how civility is just a tool used to silence?
Perhaps. Hardly new. However, demands for civility emanating from TPTB has been more organized and prevalent during the past year than any other recent period that I can recall. But it’s always present when people have had enough with TPTB to begin protesting.
Here:
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2016/5/18/123442/567#6
I mean obviously not new, but because it happened right here a few days ago made me think of it immediately as I watched this Bruenig thing play out in real time.
A good comment (I tipped it) as is Bearpaw’s addition and worth repeating here:
LOL Great update.
You know, bloggers are hired to create hits with edgy commentary. He just aimed too high.
What’s funny about this is that these people think this matters.
Side note: Steven is the first citing of the VSP getting ready to blame Sanders for Clinton’s defeat.
Within their little pond, it matters very much because their pond intersects with larger ponds with significant power.
VSP Democrats have been blaming DFHs for electoral losses since 1968. (And in CA, probably since 1966.) And preemptive attacks on DFHs mucking in their elections aren’t unknown either. However, DFHs mostly stuck to opposing GOP policy issues and were more low-key about elections after 1972, but didn’t matter to the VSPs whenever they needed someone to blame for their own incompetence and skullduggery.
If Hillary won every freaking Democrat, she would still have only 30% of the vote, max.
Indies don’t owe her a damn thing.
Indies aren’t all that independent. Obama and Romney received 98.26% of the vote in 2012 (that was down from ’08 when Obama and McCain received 98.56%). Except in the odd presidential elections when there’s a third party candidate of some strength, 95% of the indies vote either GOP or Dem. HRC knows that and that’s why she’s going after the GOP leaning Indies.
Its the wrong target. Right now Clinton isn’t getting liberal independents in the numbers she should.
The gap between Sanders and Clinton is about 7-10 points in trial heats. Virtually all of that gap is among liberal independents, and in particular young liberals.
Close that gap – I think she will – and she wins by 10+. But if she doesn’t she has effectively blown apart a huge part of the Obama coalition.
May be the wrong target but it’s an easier one for her to hit.
I think it’s way too early to project a winner and a winning margin. You could be right that HRC will win by 10+ but there aren’t good objective reasons/factors why she will do so; so, it’s only a wild-ass guess.
And almost 6 in 10 registered voters have negative impressions of both candidates. Other than fear, what can either of these two candidates do to inspire people to turn out and vote for them?
And right on schedule (since she’s already declared herself the nominee):
Clinton says Trump poses ‘immediate dangers’ to the US – campaign live.
The real question is whether the VSP and Democratic establishment are prepared to double-down on the New Democrat strategy if Clinton goes down in flames.
I mean, having Trump get elected by dint of youth abandonment would be ample evidence that the standard hippie-punching strategy of Parades of Horribles and PUA-style negging doesn’t work on this demographic. A bloc of smarter people might recognize that if someone is still eager to play chicken with you even after you showed them the break lines you pretended to cut and the steering-wheel lock that’s not on as tightly as it looks you might in fact want to back down.
My bet is on ‘yes’ right now, only because HRC’s pack of cronies seem to support her more for power and access than any kind of ideology — and they won’t have a place in the Democratic Party that replaces the Clinton-Obama era. On the other hand, most of HRC’s non-rich supporters don’t actually prefer her ideology and are only supporting her because she seems better equipped to fight the GOP death cult than the socialists. A loss to Trump or the fascist that replaces him in 2020, regardless of how it happens, would remove that impetus entirely.
I still think that HRC is ultimately going to barely win even if Trump juices white turnout — and that is looking very likely right now. The Electoral College is too stacked against the GOP. But the future looks pretty bleak for them.
If HC hews to her neoliberal economic nostrums, I don’t see how we manage not to tip into recession territory for a further four years. If not another bubble blow up, as bubbles are how that system sustains itself.
Stagflation is gonna look like Heaven.
People got really mad that I suggested that it was better for the fate of Democratic Party that Kerry didn’t win in 2004 because he’d be stuck with the fallout from Hurricane Katrina, the 2007 financial crisis, and the doldrums of the Iraq War — which he wouldn’t really do anything about (except maybe Katrina) due to gridlock and his neoliberal worldview and the public wouldn’t be interested in finding the right party nor ideology to blame. Usually some of the usual whining of SCOTUS, not realizing that W. Bush replaced as many justices in his second term as Obama did in his first.
Looks like we’re going to be testing this grim hypothesis come 2016 when HRC is in the hotseat for gridlock and economic stagnation. Let’s hope that she’ll be able to keep her warhawk tendencies under control.
Heh. Military adventurism IS the only stimulus available from Republicans in gridlock. So not likely.
you mean in addition to the military campaigns already on the horizon for her
Hillary Clinton apologists swear up and down that she learned her lesson from Iraq and Libya and Syria and Honduras and that when President she won’t have any future debacles of that magnitude.
but they have their fingers crossed behind their backs as they pointedly omit to mention they’ve learned their lesson from Ukraine
Of course they’ll double-down. It’s their world-view and that’s too over-arching for more than a very few to change later in life.
What will be problematical for them is that they’re running out of voters that experienced the financial benefits of the New Deal and grew up watching WWII movies in TV. The age break used to be 30 and in this election cycle it’s 45.