Picking up where I left off, I guess I’ll start with a donut. News has been percolating that Paul Manafort is unhappy, that he feels like he’s wasting his time trying to advise Donald Trump, and that he’s basically just “mailing it in.” If that was a cry for help, it has apparently been heard, because some folks are going to try to come to the rescue:
Key Republicans close to Donald Trump’s orbit are plotting an intervention with the candidate after a disastrous 48 hours led some influential voices in the party to question whether Trump can stay at the top of the Republican ticket without catastrophic consequences for his campaign and the GOP at large.
Republican National Committee head Reince Priebus, former Republican New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich are among the Trump endorsers hoping to talk the real estate mogul into a dramatic reset of his campaign in the coming days, sources tell NBC News.
The group of GOP heavyweights hopes to enlist the help of Trump’s children – who comprise much of his innermost circle of influential advisers – to aid in the attempt to rescue his candidacy.
No one, so far, has been able to convince The Donald to stop landing haymakers on his own face, and there’s increasing talk that he’s on the verge of knocking himself out of the race. Consider this weak response to the speculation that Trump might just throw in the towel.
Adviser Kellyanne Conway disputed the notion that Trump would bolt the ticket, saying “I would push back on any formal report that the candidate is going to leave the race.”
That’s a very oddly constructed sentence, don’t you think?
To be sure, the polls do not look promising for Trump, but they are not yet so bad that they would ordinarily start a conversation about stopping the fight.
But that’s exactly what’s happening:
There’s absolutely no indication Trump is considering leaving the race, a move that would seem wildly out of character for a candidate who has prided himself on “winning” and grasped at any poll that shows him dominating an opponent. Still, some Republicans are quietly considering the arcane mechanics of what would happen to the party’s ticket if Trump was to leave the presidential race.
Yesterday, I wrote that the charade of Trump's campaign "will not hold for another three months," but I was talking about his relatively competitive standing in the polls.
What's he’s done, though, in refusing to endorse Speaker Paul Ryan or John McCain's reelection campaigns is to make enemies that he could not afford to make. At least, that's clear in the case of Ryan who is the only force holding the House Republicans in any semblance of order.
People talk about there being a 40% floor or a 45% floor below which no Republican or Democratic presidential candidate can fall, but that floor is held up by joists and support beams that Trump has eaten through like an army of famished termites. Trump can absolutely fall below 40%, and possibly far below it. His support right now is around 41 percent and it’s eroding. The defections will continue and could easily become a stampede. It couldn’t be more obvious that this is the future that is anticipated by the Republicans who are plotting an intervention with Trump’s children.
For this reason, though, the Democrats don’t want Trump to drop out. So, maybe now is the time to ease up on him while he deals with the insurrection he’s caused?
It seems like in the last week, the wave that had been building for months just finally broke, and it has been a non-stop deluge since that time. As I was getting ready for bed last night, I realized that the entire news cycle that I had watched and listened to yesterday was virtually 100% negative Donald Trump coverage.
I mean, the last thing I remember that so piqued our corporate media’s fancy to such a high level was a blow job in the Oval Office.
The Khans were Trump’s Katrina, the clarifying moment where it becomes clear just what an over the top clusterfuck is underway.
The Khans have done a great public service.
Resetting or even replacing Trump is immaterial at this point. The die has now been cast in the presidential race. The goal of a reset for Trump is only to get a respectable loss with minimal down ticket losses.
No let up on pressure – go for the jugular. Make the lower candidates carry his dead carcass all the way to November.
You are correct. Of course it’s me saying that, so take it for whatever it’s worth.
Nonetheless, I have been maintaining for some days now that the Khan debacle is hurting Trump more than any of his prior mistakes. We are now on Day Five, and there seems to be little let up. I don’t know if that’s simply because of attrition, or the fact that he is now facing the general electorate.
It is a very foolish thing to insult the military. It’s absolute madness to attack the family of a fallen hero. Which Captain Khan is. A far braver man than I, though that’s a pretty low bar. I also was quite offended (and I’m far from the only one) by his acceptance of the gift of that soldier’s Purple Heart. The correct response would have been to refuse the gift, and tell the donor he should keep it and wear it proudly. It is not to say “I always wanted one, and getting it this way is easier.”
I may be a coward. That doesn’t mean I don’t appreciate the sacrifice of those who served. When I was practicing law, I represented vets pro bono, or at a very reduced fee. That doesn’t make me any kind of great guy. Repaying a debt is not an act of heroism. It’s nothing compared to the commitment of being ready to give one’s life. And it’s a piddling down payment.
I came of age during an obscene war. But I’ll be honest: I never even considered the fact that getting a deferment meant someone else had to serve. That doesn’t mean I would have changed my choices. None of my peers were considering that, and I was young, and part of a certain peer group. But I never, never excoriated those who served. And I worked with a lot of vets, and tried to help them. Again, no biggie. I had no clue to what they had endured, and never stopped to think that maybe I should have shared in their sacrifices. I am not proud of that, but I guess that’s my own problem.
I never hated any soldier who served, I never hated any cop on general principles. I think I always understood that everyone’s life presented unique challenges, and that we rise and fall by dealing with them. And we are human, and prone to making mistake. I have made many. But if you don’t assess your past honestly, or as honestly as you can, you are a waste of space.
I ask no understanding. I am what I am. I already have my own private hell, thank you. But I am terrified of someone who never admits error. Because if you don’t admit error, you cannot move forward. Ever. This is the horror of Trump: His petty insistence that everyone accept his infallibility on every single point is not only unpresidential. It’s inhuman.
WE may be seeing the exit strategy for the GOP. For several days running, Mr. and Mrs. DC Village Consensus (Joe and Mika) have been openly questioning Trump’s sanity. Even saying he was asking, “Why not use nukes?” during international situation briefings months ago.
The ground work is being laid for the GOP to declare him politically “mente incompetens” and throw his ass overboard.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/scarborough-trump-nukes_us_57a1e47ae4b0693164c347d0
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this nukes thing is really causing an uproar for those foreign policy GOPers who up til now were mostly quiet til now.
Yikes!
tweet storm in progress from @noonanjo long time GOP security advisor on Trump and nuclear codes
Mostly quiet until now? You aren’t watching the same campaign as me:
damn I forgot about that!
so what is it now that causing the frenzy from folks like Joe Scar and all these intervention talks.
that’s from back in March?
now it’s may just be too late…surprised they didn’t try to knee cap him before he became the official nominee
Back in March it was all about ratings, and the media determined that Trump was ratings Gold.
Maybe JoeScar was “concerned” about Trump’s nuke statements even back then or maybe he wasn’t. Who knows. IF he was, he was clearly told by the PTB to put a muzzle on it.
Maybe even the prostituted suckingly horrible parasitic corporate owners are starting to get nervous vis Trump – whom THEY lovingly created, fellated and promoted. Who knows? Apparantly, though, someone felt scared enough to set JoeScar off to rant about the nukes thing now. Too late to turn back the clock and keep the TrumpClown off the top of the ticket.
That said, I doubt Trump’s fans woulda cared one iota about the nukes thing. Frankly, they’d probably clap and cheer and chant for more.
Nuts.
While they can’t shove him out of the lifeboat, maybe they can convince him to jump. After all the election is rigged and being President wouldn’t be as much fun as being TRUMP; so maybe he can be “persuaded” to drop out. If he does, its up to the whole RNC to pick a replacement. You can be sure if it isn’t Pence or Cruz, someone is going to be angry.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senior-gop-officials-exploring-options-trump-drops/story?id=41089609
the tRumpster goes all in on his Captain Queeg impersonation…more popcorn please.
I don’t believe Trump will get out of the race (and see what Josh Marshall has written about this), but if he actually made noises as though he would, good lord! The Democrats ought to encourage him. Any chance that that sociopath could become president is too great a chance.
But how would that even work? You couldn’t force him out, he would have to remove himself. And then the RNC would pick a replacement as though he had a heart attack? Pence? Cruz? Romney?
Then, even if he removed himself, you would have Trump on Twitter, and calling in on CNN, making trouble.
Like Josh at TPM says, it seems like empty talk. But even empty talk has consequences.
I have thought he loses by 10, but geeze.
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If Trump’s net worth is at the low end of the estimates — half a billion or less — “they” could buy him out. Provided Trump got ironclad non-disclosure agreements. A billionaires pass the hat routine using lots of LLCs for which Trump suddenly has a small ownership stake in for a nominal cost. They could also offer to cover his campaign loans to himself.
As a propitious heart attack or health issue wouldn’t pass the smell test of even his rubes, he could borrow a page from Perot. Not about Trump’s daughter as the media and HRC campaign hasn’t touched Ivanka for good reason. But they have gone after his grown sons and his wife. The former are expected to tough it out, but his supporters would have empathy for Melania and probably look up to man that chose not to put his wife through more.
Still begs the question of who gets called into the game as the quarterback. A question that “they” have struggled with for a year and failed to come up with an answer.
What you call making enemies is The Donald burning bridges.
Ease up on him?
I don’t see where the Dems have done anything but let Trump be Trump and HRC/Kaine are going along, as they should, if this was a “real” race.
Dems aren’t even hitting Trump yet…this is all primarily from his own side
I agree.
It seems like ‘just say as little as possible and let him burn’ is the policy for now.
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Dude, the president of the United States spoonfed Trump his ass yesterday.
Ha! But if Obama attacks Trumps, that makes it harder for Republicans to disavow him.
Cleek’s law compels Hobson’s choice for non-Trumpets
Obama definitely trolling the Republicans.
By asking for Trump’s head Obsma forces the Republicans have to support him
Obama has set the stage for the non-Trumpets to look weak no matter what they do:
It’s a classic
Might be that’s the strategy right there: rip Trump’s face off once every one or two weeks and let him flail around during the interim, bleeding all over the place and making the other Republicans slip and fall in it.
well that is true, but I didn’t consider that as “action by Dems” though I know PBO is the top Dem.
what I mean is I don’t see a concerted effort by Dema across the party and surrogates on tv and beyond hammering Trump.
oh and no biggie but I’m not a “dude” 😋😋
My apologies, Dudette.
Don;t divert attention from your opponent’s self-destruction.
But be ready to take own a stronger candidate.
Another reason to get ahead of this by pointing to Trump as the poster boy of the failure of the modern conservative movement. Whatever those Goldwater voters wanted in 1964, the movement he started ends in Trump and his policies not in the “statesmanship” of the Founding Fathers.
Yeah I do wonder what would happen if anyone else were running now. Then again wouldnt a lot of his support just riot or sit things out at the ultimate elite betrayal?
Dems should just sit tight and not say much, imo. I like that strategy. It’s not really up to them right now.
Obama has consistently sent out messages that Trump is not fit to be President since around the beginning of the year. He’s done it in his usual style but pointing out specific issues of real concern.
I agree with this strategy, but the DNC Convention also had a parade of speakers pointing out the very real issues with Trump.
I think that’s good enough for now. For once, I actually like how the D party is handling this situation.
I’ll believe Trump falling through the floor when I see it; it certainly can happen, but as I stated in the previous thread, there’s an entire generation of imprinting working in his favor.
That was the most enjoyable thing I have ever seend produced in any way, shape or form by Chuck Todd. Trump is well on his way to being a political disaster of historic proportions. He’s going to make Dukakis look like he had a real shot at winning. At this point I’m all about #schadenfreudeandpopcorn
Dukakis did have a real chance. He lost by 7%, back when the electorate still had big swings. 7% was less than either the 84-88 or the 88-92 swing.
Even if Repubs somehow convinced Trump to “voluntarily” drop out, the reactionary base would blow things up. Maybe even literally.
Honestly — angry white guys with guns, whose worst instincts have been encouraged over decades, including a surge of encouragement over the last year? I would be surprised if there wasn’t violence.
It’s certainly a very real concern. One of the only ways, imo, that Trump dropping out could go at least somewhat smoothly is if Trump, himself, soothes his rabid base by providing some sort of very very plausible reason why he’s dropping out. What that plausible reason could be is beyond me.
If Trump’s very riled up fan-base believes that Trump has been done the “dirty,” I don’t want to even think about potential consequences.
Given what we’ve seen of Trump’s character and his base’s obsessions, I’m having a hard time picturing any way he exits the race that doesn’t enrage his followers. I think “We wuz robbed! Burn it all down and machine-gun the ashes!” would be both the message and the response.
Angry white guys with guns …
who somehow never seem to be able to volunteer for military service?
Who somehow never seem to be on the line when being confronted by indignant others?
Who somehow never seem to be around when the Italian Stallion is needed?
Most of Trump’s base are poseurs who haven’t the balls to actually DO anything more than bitch, moan and talk a good line.
As for the rest? Not many left. If Trump’s supporters were truly dangerous they already would have been. The closest we got was Cliven Bundy’s idiot kids.
Yes, indeed. You don’t want to allow time for the GOP downticket to put distance between them and Trump or for the voters to have more than a couple of days to forget.
BTW, Bob Pittman has just signed Rush for another 4 iHeart years in radio under its Premiere Networks brand.
Someone is now pushing “Breaking” “might drop out” narratives. Here’s your cap, Donald. What’s your hurry?
Is this the dawning of the GOPpadammerung or not?
Another poll has Clinton up in Arizona.
No doubt Arthur will be along shortly to tell you what to do with that poll.
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2016/8/3/10395/66472#41
Arthur is becoming increasingly distraught as the news rolls in that Trump is becoming a dead parrot.
I wonder why.
Pining for the fjords of Norway, no doubt. 😉
The Yankee Orange prefers keepin’ on it’s back! Remarkable bird, id’nit, Arthur? Lovely plumage!
So much BooMan Tribune nonsense here today.
“This is rumor control; here are the facts.” Any questions?
Which means the Democrats have said almost nothing about him since last Thursday. So, not attacking.
It doesn’t “mean” that, and, anyway, it’s not true.
With everything except #4.
Ailes is gone, and they’re off script. At root is a systemic and demographic shift, and has more to do with changes in audience preference of media type rather than whatever crap they are slinging. The Drudge to Rush to Fox News messaging engine is obsolete, and the audience is dead. It’s been replaced by Trump’s Twitter account.
On one hand, it seems like Trump is trying to alienate Republicans now and seems to be doing a good job of it.
On the other hand, and I mentioned this yesterday, no matter how bad the horse at a certain point beating a dead one ends up making the casual observer to feel sorry for it. Can the press continue to demonize Trump for another three months?
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/08/how-not-to-run-an-anti-trump-campaign.html
>>Can the press continue to demonize Trump for another three months?
i’d have to bet against it. He IS that bad, but the press lives on “both sides do it” and loves to pretend they’re impartial.
Probably a good idea to focus on why you should for HRC as opposed to against Trump.
Also keep in mind Trump has little staff no turnout operation and little add time. If he had done that he’d probably be a lot more competitive even now.
This just in:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/paul-ryan-paul-nehlen-donald-trump/index.html
Pence has just endorsed Paul Ryan, a day after Trump refused to.
But:
So what kind of game are they playing here? Both ends against the middle? Having it both ways? Having/eating their cake? What? What???
What kind of game are they playing? Monopolizing the media with trivia, outrage, and complete unseriusness with regard to the country?
But it denies media attention to the Clinton campaign or even the third party campaigns.
His pitch–“You are going to stick around because you are going to wonder how far I can go.”
And all of the media — mainstream, blog, social media are hitting the bait like a stocked bass run.
Crowding out policy and mandates.
Whoever is elected gets a blank check.