I actually like Ross Douthat’s latest column because it’s provocative in the good sense. It’s true that Douthat is uniquely disqualified from having credibility on the subject of Donald Trump’s appeal. After all, no one assured us more emphatically that Trump would never win the Republican nomination than Douthat. But he seems to be slowly coming around to an understanding of what’s been going on in this country.
At first, I wasn’t sure where he was going in blaming Samantha Bee for Trump’s electoral strength. And, while his argument isn’t ultimately convincing, it’s sound enough to explore.
What he’s noticing is real, although his description of it is incomplete. It’s true that liberalism is culturally ascendant, relatively unquestioned among Millennials, and encroaching into areas where politics were previously muted or absent.
The examples he uses are adequate to make his point.
On late-night television, it was once understood that David Letterman was beloved by coastal liberals and Jay Leno more of a Middle American taste. But neither man was prone to delivering hectoring monologues in the style of the “Daily Show” alums who now dominate late night…
…Awards shows are being pushed to shed their genteel limousine liberalism and embrace the race-gender-sexual identity agenda in full. Colleges and universities are increasingly acting as indoctrinators for that same agenda, shifting their already-lefty consensus under activist pressure.
Meanwhile, institutions that were seen as outside or sideways to political debate have been enlisted in the culture war. The tabloid industry gave us the apotheosis of Caitlyn Jenner, and ESPN gave her its Arthur Ashe Award. The N.B.A., N.C.A.A. and the A.C.C. — nobody’s idea of progressive forces, usually — are acting as enforcers on behalf of gay and transgender rights. Jock culture remains relatively reactionary, but even the N.F.L. is having its Black Lives Matters moment, thanks to Colin Kaepernick.
Quibble about the details here if you want, but he’s basically correct. If anything, he doesn’t go far enough. During the Obama presidency, there has been a steady growth of black, brown, gay and feminist voices who have moved from the media fringe or underground into the mainstream, as syndicated columnists, cable news anchors and regular guests, and (as it has aged) even as veterans of the administration. The growth of social media, especially Twitter, has also amplified voices of the cultural and ethnic left, pushing them into the conversation on every major news story.
I’m not sure we’d have a Black Lives Matter movement in this country if citizens hadn’t been empowered with cameras in their phones and the ability to publish their thoughts to wide audiences. So, there are many factors at play here. There are advances in the diversity of mainstream media, citizen-empowering technological changes, demographic changes, a leftward drift in the youth culture, and a dysfunctional response from the right all combining to create an almost radical shift in how our news is collected, sifted, and presented to the public.
But, then there are the people who are uncomfortable with or even disoriented by the pace of these changes, not to mention panicked about the political implications. And there are a lot of these people. We saw them emerge as the Tea Party almost (but not quite) spontaneously in reaction to the Democratic wave that hit Washington DC in 2009.
I agree with Douthat that this has been redolent of something we’ve seen before.
Something like this happened once before: In the 1960s and 1970s, the culture shifted decisively leftward, but American voters shifted to the right and answered a cultural revolution with a political Thermidor.
That Nixon-Reagan rightward shift did not repeal the 1960s or push the counterculture back to a beatnik-hippie fringe. But it did leave liberalism in a curious place throughout the 1980s: atop the commanding heights of culture yet often impotent in Washington, D.C.
By nominating a Trump rather than a Nixon or a Reagan, the Republicans may have saved liberalism from repeating that trajectory. But it remains an advantage for the G.O.P., and a liability for the Democratic Party, that the new cultural orthodoxy is sufficiently stifling to leave many Americans looking to the voting booth as a way to register dissent.
“Thermidor” is a reference to a stage in the French Revolution.
The Thermidorian Reaction, Revolution of Thermidor, or simply Thermidor refers to the coup of 9 Thermidor (27 July 1794) in which the Committee of Public Safety led by Maximilien Robespierre was sidelined and its leaders arrested and guillotined, resulting in the end of the Reign of Terror. The new regime, known as The Directory, introduced more conservative policies aimed at stabilizing the revolutionary government.
Consequently, for historians of revolutionary movements, the term Thermidor has come to mean the phase in some revolutions when the political pendulum swings back towards something resembling a pre-revolutionary state, and power slips from the hands of the original revolutionary leadership.
I think the pendulum metaphor is apt here, if not the comparison of Obama and liberal culture to a Reign of Terror. The Tea Party and Trumpism are reactionary responses aimed at establishing the status quo ante Obamum. When Trump says “We don’t win anymore,” he’s not talking about social liberals, gay rights activists, or the party that has won the popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections.
Yet, on the Congressional, state, and local level, the reaction against Obama has been tremendously successful. And Douthat is correct that it’s also a reaction against the ascendancy of social liberalism, including what is often experienced as a stifling political correctness.
The picture isn’t complete, however, unless you also consider what Matt Latimer discusses in his piece today on Trump’s successful gaffe strategy. It’s a theme I have been hitting on for a while now, and it can be summarized as the near complete loss of credibility of the Washington Establishment. Time and again, Trump has insulted them in ways that would have sunk previous candidates, but enough of the public enjoys these insults that they aren’t disqualifying. If you thought people respected John McCain, you thought that mocking his captivity and torture would be seen an outrage rather than a long-deserved comeuppance.
You really have to combine these two narratives to understand why people shrug off Trump’s Birtherism. Latimer captures part of it as he goes over Trump’s recent decision to disavow his Birtherism and blame Clinton for starting the controversy.
To the insiders, no single moment in the campaign was more appalling, or revealing of Trump’s singular mendacity. His pirouette not only made fools of the press by getting them to cover an infomercial disguised as a news conference, it was a brazen effort to shift blame for a controversy that Trump did more than any other prominent American to promote. Surely, the press assumed, the public would see this? They saw it, all right—but not in the same way.
To an outsider, a savvy businessman had just engineered a brilliant ad for his latest venture, while efficiently backing away from a controversy he probably didn’t take all that seriously anyway.
There’s more truth in this than I’d like to admit, but the key is that few people took Birtherism seriously on its merits. They just liked that it was a big middle finger to the president and that it made the liberals go nuts. They knew what Trump was up to, in other words, so they don’t judge him now on his truthfulness.
What Birtherism has in common with other Trump gambits is disrespect for people in power and authority. So, going after the Bush family or McCain or the senators and governors Trump ran against in the primaries, these are all part of the same phenomenon, they have the same appeal, and they are judged with the same lack of concern for factual accuracy. If you saw how these people turned Trayvon Martin into a thug and George Zimmerman into a well-funded hero, none of this should shock you. Because it’s not just giving a big F.U. to the political and media establishments. It’s also about fighting back against a culture that suddenly cares about black lives, that insists on the legitimacy of gay relationships, that celebrates people who won’t stand for the national anthem.
So, Douthat warns us that we’re living in our own bubble. We see our cultural ascendancy as progress but we see less clearly how it’s creating a backlash.
If the Republican Party hadn’t imploded at the same time as the economy and the election of our first black president, it might have been even more of a beneficiary of this revolt, but it had discredited itself with its own base. As a result, they’ve been torn apart by the forces that were unleashed and cannot form a coherent counterattack.
I think you see how high the stakes are in this election. The Establishment is on its heels and its under attack by forces that will bring chaos and destruction rather than needed reform. The rallying point is Clinton’s candidacy, and it’s a candidacy that has a legitimacy problem of its own as Millennials aren’t exactly sold.
If they understood what Douthat is saying, they’d probably take this election more seriously and understand which side they should be on.
Thus Clinton’s peculiar predicament. She has moved further left than any modern Democratic nominee, and absorbed the newer left’s Manichaean view of the culture war sufficiently that she finds herself dismissing almost a quarter of the electorate as “irredeemable” before her donors. Yet she still finds herself battling an insurgency on her left flank, and somewhat desperately pitching millennials on her ideological bona fides.
I understand why people want more than what’s on offer. I wish they better understood what their choices really are.
Yup.
A very wise man once told me that evolution on earth…on any level…always resembles a drunken sailor trying to get back to his ship before curfew.
Like dat.
We are quite possibly approaching a stagger-back phase, both in the U.S. and in Europe as well.
Have faith.
Yup twice.
I ran across an interesting article on Counterpoint today. Human Decency Moves Civilization Forward, by James A Haught.
Have faith and keep up the good fight.
Please.
We survived Nixon.
We survived Reagan.
And we will survive Trump.
Bet on it.
I am
Later…
AG
You write:
Yeah, but…the inference that you are making is that he is talking about his own constituency. “We.” I disagree. He is talking about the state of the entire U.S. in terms of its place in the international economic and power hierarchy, and by doing so he is talking to a much larger audience than his own base. That’s why he is winning. You really don’t need to be a reactionary to see the rapid disintegration of the American Dream over the past 30 years. “A chicken in every pot” has been replaced by “Extreme debt on every level,” and a good case can be made that this regression can be completely blamed by bipartisan cooperation in selling our manufacturing base down the river to countries that treat their workers very, very badly but can turn a greater profit for the multinational (Or is it anti-“national”? Post-national? Whatever) ) .01% that actually control most of the wealth of the world.
He is saying that “we”…the people of the U.S. in general…do not win anymore because our leaders have sold us down the river. Ross Perot said exactly the same thing when he was running for president.
From the NY Times coverage of the 1992 presidential debates:
1992.
24 years ago this process was already well under way.
Now…Trump will probably go about changing this…if he does anything at all…in a very ham-handed, clumsy and eventually unsuccessful manner, but this is the election, not the presidency. He has a genius for media manipulation and he is using it very well now.
Watch.
AG
Well 12-15 years added on to 1992 gets us to 2007 which as I recall was the start of the Great Recession. I’d have to say Mr. Perot’s “Who’s Who” folks got it right…
” She has moved further left than any modern Democratic nominee”
I have seen this line repeatedly. Two things bare noticing:
She is not to the left of where Obama was in 2008. Importantly, though, Obama didn’t have to move left to run.
More broadly, I think the reaction you point out is born out of a sense that what is acceptable disagreement is being narrowed. There have been well known instances of people being fired for something they wrote on social media. The perceived application of political correctness in social media frightens people.
We’ll manage. FDR ran on the sanctity of balanced budgets and the need for austerity. Lincoln declared that he’d take the restoration of the union, together with the freeing of no slaves. So long as he was in Congress, LBJ opposed every civil rights measure that came up.
Hypocrites, and untrustworthy to boot. Undeserving of our ballots.
Excellent point. Moreover, the fact that she has moved says something too: she understands that her potential voters want someone who is more to the left than she’s been in the past (I actually think she was more left than Obama in 2008). That is a good thing.
That Bernie, who is in line to be budget committee chair in the Senate, is campaigning for her tells me something too: he knows that she’s willing to work with him and has been responsive to his issues. If we want a progressive budget, whether Clinton or Bernie supporter, I don’t understand why we’d piss away the opportunity. Even if you don’t like Clinton, or see her move to the left as fake, to give Bernie the opportunity seems worth it.
Still @fladem’s point stands. Of course politicians modulate their views, and of course they will adjust based on what the electorate is demanding. Anyone with any political sophistication knows this – and there’s the rub. What’s that like .2% of the electorate?
Hillary has been around long enough to evolve, and that will seem like flip flopping or being hypocritical to many voters. Add in a natural lack of down home charm (or is that just misogyny? not sure if I can tell sometimes.) and she seems untrustworthy. It may not be fair, but what difference does that make?
I don’t disagree at all. She’s definitely not charismatic, and has said so herself. My point is that there is an opportunity in this election. It’s not just about preventing a racist authoritarian from gaining the executive branch of government and preventing his acolytes from sitting on the courts, but giving both Clinton and Bernie a chance to do some things that otherwise we wouldn’t see happen at all.
And I don’t disagree with that at all. I’m just not sure how to get several million others in certain states to agree as well.
I think with her the issue is more fundamental. The simple truth was Bill Clinton was part of a group that sought to overturn liberal orthodoxy. His lasting contribution was to move the party right, not left.
Hillary is not Bill: but a good part of the distrust liberals have for the Clintons has been earned and merited.
And a good part is unearned and unmerited.
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I think the most important thing to note about Bill Clinton’s Presidency is that it moved the branches of the Federal Government to the left from where they had been before his Presidency, and the branches of the Federal Government took a sharp right immediately after his Presidency.
I recognize your point that mistrust exists within the left-leaning public due to the electoral viability issues which Clinton’s Presidential campaigns and governing decisions responded to. But the fact that the Federal government was made to shift to the left thru Clinton’s Presidency is a very key fact that many seem unwilling to recognize.
And, for the millionth time, Hillry is not Bill. She’s been meaningfully to the left of Bill on most of the policy and cultural issues which most animate her.
Which is an argument, of course, for voting for anyone, including Trump. “We’ll manage! He’ll get better once he’s in office!”
Or, in terms you might appreciate more:
I agree! Clinton is like FDR, Lincoln, and LBJ combined! All we need is WWII, the Civil War, or Vietnam, and we’re golden! Something-something ‘seize the commanding heights’ mumble-mumble ‘workers utopia.’
I think Davis was just observing that presidents have done things differently in office than one would have anticipated. Bring compelled to respond to circumstances ought to challenge one’s pre-existing ideology. I don’t think there are a helluva lot of people visiting the Lincoln Memorial and leaving notes complaining that “you campaigned on just restricting slave territory, not on abolishing slavery altogether.”
And examples of circumstances forcing a change in perspective.
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Sure. And I hope it’ll happen. I’m quite fond of Clinton, and praying for a big third act.
But it’s a meaningless thing to say in terms of anything but prayers. “We’ll manage. Maybe thing’ll work out.” You can say that about any candidate, ever. Maybe Trump really is the only person who can defeat the alien invasion, because Frimulons are allergic to narcissistic bluster. Maybe not. Who knows? Don’t worry your little head. Just close your eyes and think of Lincoln.
Lincoln was so moderate his election prompted the creation of the Confederacy.
You are just wrong factually on LBJ (see the ’57 Civil Rights Bill), though no one would deny he proved far different in office. But he is a notable exception in this regard.
FDR avoided saying very much in 1932 – when you run against someone with 23% employment you don’t have.
You write: “She is not to the left of where Obama was in 2008.”
Which Obama?
The rhetorician or the administrator?
The rhetorician proved to be way to the left the administrator, and we aren’t nearly at the administrator portion of HRC’s reign, even if she is crowned.
Some one I knew wall used to tell me that in any economic planning…from buying the makings for dinner right on through building a house and beyond…it’s always good to consider that it’s going to be about 1/3 more expensive than you think that it will be out front. I think that this formula applies really well to elective office as well. Whateder a politician says he or she is going to do once elected while running for office, plan on it being at least a third less rightiness or leftiness than they claimed that they were while running.
The center is where the gravity lives.
Always and forever.
Sigh…
AG
Hillary was to the left of Obama in 2008 (recognizing the need for insurance mandates) and is far to his left now. Obama wasn’t calling for a large and specific progressive tax increase. Obama wasn’t calling for $15/hour minimum wage. And he certainly wasn’t calling to end banker control of the Fed boards.
This is a smart and thought-provoking post. Thanks.
People will inevitably come around, and despite the freakouts we’re not going to see a Brexit-like upset. Trump is a huge, beautiful middle-finger at the establishment, and Americans love us some pretend anti-establishmentarianism. Still, the danger isn’t that he’s going to win. The danger is that we’re losing the opportunity for a landslide.
We’ll end up with President Clinton presiding over a gridlocked Congress. We should have the Senate in the bag. For twenty seconds, the House looked possible. But no.
After a few more years of government dysfunction, with the press going full rabid against a competent, centrist, establishment President who doesn’t have a tenth of the personal appeal or political skill as Obama, what will the Democratic Party look like?
People do want more than what’s on offer. But is it possible that some of them are focused on long-term choices in a way that you and I are not? I think these ‘long-term choices’ are actually short-sighted, but if the current trajectory is for a poleaxed government and discredited party in a few years, if that is ‘what’s on offer,’ then I understand the impulse, at least, to say, ‘Fuck it. Let’s see how much damage a one term President Trump can do to the Republican Party, and if he actually forces the media to wake the fuck up.’
I don’t agree. There’s, y’know, the Supreme Court, and the terrifying prospect of a rabidly racist President who viscerally understands the bully pulpit (unlike Democratic analysts, who mock the very concept) and how to use it. But I understand.
Did you see Elizabeth Warren yesterday? Contra your statement of the other day, she’s the best thing the Democrats have going for us.
The tl;dr, I guess, is: “While I agree that not voting/campaigning for Clinton reveals a frightening state of political complacency, I worry that voting/campaigning for Clinton reveals a frightening state of political complacency.”
You write:
It’ll look just like it looks now, Steggies. Unless (and/or until) the whole corporate control mechanism over two-party politics in the U.S. is somehow broken, massive money will ensure the survival of the present status quo.
Could happen, of course…but it’s just an outside chance under current conditions.
Later…
AG
P.S. Warren? Yup. You’re right on the money. In fact…she’s pretty much the only real thing the Dems have going for them unless HRC stages a late-round comeback. Even then…see my post about the 1/3rd idea above.
If it looks just like it looks now, that’s … adequate. I’m afraid it’ll look far worse, giving Trump 2.0 a real opportunity.
I understand why people want more than what’s on offer.
I wish they better understood what their choices really are.
Excellent! What’s on offer has no appeal … does the electorate need to change?
Trump offers what his constituency (the mob) screams for … it’s been a long time coming.
HRC never understood what the broad spectrum of Democrats, milleniums included, were asking for.
As I said before, Clinton is so 20th century, the old generation of Hollywood stars, wealth and the elites.
○ Millennials Won’t Fall for Inauthenticity: The Clintons of the ’60s Are Over
You write:
“Clinton is so 20th century, the old generation of Hollywood stars, wealth and the elites.”
Yes she is…!!!
Precisely that.
Thank you, Oui.
AG
So 20th century, you say, as posted by Roger Smith on Naked Capitalism under Links today:
‘I’d imagine one of the things she reminds millennials of the most are those annoying 80s-90s toys that took a large amount of awkward sized batteries. “42 D batteries… what the hell?”
Remember kids, she has to be in bed by 8!’
I’ve always disliked this idea that all millennials and young people and whatnot are seeking authenticity. Authenticity is bullshit. It’s manufactured every day and it always has been; there’s no such thing as authenticity. Maybe for antiques, but not for anything more abstract than that. It’s become such a subjective thing that there’s no one definition that any of us will agree on.
That’s not cynicism. That’s an admission that reality is what you make of it. People who act instead of react. Obama did that and he got two terms out of it. It’s too close to that Rovian reality-based quote for comfort, to many at least, but that’s why Trump supporters don’t care how much he lies. He’s less authentic than the Clintons, but somehow HRC is the one knocked for being too fake.
As this lie would have it, “authentic” people act, in black and white. “Inauthentic” people react, or think, or analyze, or critique with ten-dollar weasel words and equivocation and the gray areas that we live in.
It’s bullshit. Authenticity is bullshit. There’s no such thing.
In the phrase “ante Obamum” we can treat his last name as a first declension Masculine noun, so we can just go with “ante Obamam”. It would be the same as the accusative form of “Caligula”: “Caligulam”. It looks just like any number of Latin feminine nouns or names, but they’re masculine forms. “Bellum” is neuter, hence the -um ending.
Nice. And to think that I insisted my daughter study a modern language in high school, instead of Latin….
Hillary Clinton only needs to start talking—honestly and convincingly—about the nightmare inequality of wealth and she’ll win in a landslide taking both houses of Congress with her. But she can’t talk about that because she’s as much the problem as the cause. Bernie Sanders tried it and almost got to the point where class became the main concern: the rich and the poor just as in ancient times. Identity politics, cultural affiliations or whatever they might be called, individual rights and freedom to show yourself honestly are all nice, but if the money ain’t there, there’s no there. And maybe—just maybe—this is the sweet spot that Donald Trump is massaging consciously or not, whether a projection of his supporters or not. Despite all the social progress a strong sense of material dishonesty and injustice permeates the country. An undertone of despair. Is this the Hope and Change Barack Obama was aiming at?
You write:
You mistake electoral rhetoric for elected action, Quentin.
Some smartass…maybe even Obama himself…came up with that phrase.
It helped to get him elected.
Hope and Change?
Bullshit!!!
None of these things can be blamed on the RatPublicans.
It’s just more neolib/neocon/same old same old centrist branding.
Bet on it.
Why is Butch I supporting HRC?
Same old same old.
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Bet on it.
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AG
Arthur, Yes. My sarcasm goes qgain unrewarded. I like your energetic and creative posts very much.
Thank you. I am glad that you do. But…if you can, you would do well to start giving me some positive recs…the coward Marduk is giving me bad rating after bad rating w/out ever risking face by confronting me directly.
Thanks again…
AG
Marduk? It sound like Dracula or the Evil Witch of the North. Who is this person? I’ve never seen a comment or diary under that name. I’m completely ignorant of the mechanics of the site. Can I find Marduk’s contributions anywhere by name? Maybe HRC whispered in Marduk’s ear: ‘sic ’em, Arthur Gilroy does not qualify for one of my Baskets of the Beatified.’
You write:
“Maybe HRC whispered in Marduk’s ear: ‘sic ’em, Arthur Gilroy does not qualify for one of my Baskets of the Beatified.'”
That is not so far fetched as you might think. There was at least one instance of a “post office”…a supposed single poster who posted an incredible number of negative posts at non-lockstep dKosians during multi-hour periods with no let up whatsoever before the July massacre. I did a time study and outed the group. It made no difference, except to me. The stuff kept happening.
This is a relatively small site, but given the dirty tricks used by the HRC-allied DNC in the primaries I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re playing the same game on a smaller scale here.
Nothing surprises me regarding the width and depth of the rot within the U.S. political system these days.
Nothing.
AG
Maybe something high-profile, like the NY Times Opinion pages? Because the speeches clearly aren’t working… nor are the ads.
Thanks, Booman, for a very thought-provoking piece. A few remarks:
“So, there are many factors at play here. There are advances in the diversity of mainstream media, citizen-empowering technological changes, demographic changes, a leftward drift in the youth culture, and a dysfunctional response from the right all combining to create an almost radical shift in how our news is collected, sifted, and presented to the public.
“But, then there are the people who are uncomfortable with or even disoriented by the pace of these changes, not to mention panicked about the political implications.”
Oh, this is so bang-on. I expect we all know people who have been seriously discomfited by cultural and demographic change, by the weakened appeal of so-called traditional family values, and whose political stances have shifted in response. (I could point at neighbors and relatives of my generation who match this description.) They’re not bad people, at least the ones I know, but they do see the Democratic Party as firmly aligned with those changes they find so difficult to accept, and their response has been to tell the Democratic Party to fuck off. (Here’s the parallel with the Reagan Democrat phenomenon.) Unfortunately, not only do they raise a middle finger to the Democrats, but they then wind up buying into the whole illogical GOP agenda.
“[F]ew people took Birtherism seriously on its merits. They just liked that it was a big middle finger to the president and that it made the liberals go nuts.”
Exactly. Provocation is the whole point of the exercise. They seemingly do not give a damn about the potential consequences of a Trump presidency and a federal government completely in the control of the Republican far right. A cynic would say that the Trump phenomenon was intentionally ginned up by far-right forces that clearly understood the potential for exploiting the “useful idiots” (apologies to VI Lenin).
It’s been conventional to describe the pre-Trump GOP as a coalition of libertarians, social conservatives, and big business. This description leaves out the folks whose fundamental political stance is just “liberals can go fuck themselves, damn the consequences”. Trump’s evil genius has been to energize those people.
You write:
Does this mean that you are not all-in with HRC’s “basket of deplorables” bullshit?
Oh, JDR!!!
Congratulations!!!
You are beginning…just beginning, mind you…to see the PermaGov light.
Welcome in.
AG
AG, somehow I guessed my words would elicit a comment from you, and I’ll leave it at that.
All this seems like over-analyzing to me. The general public (not here in The Pond, of course) doesn’t much care about issue (IMHO). Clinton was defined by Sanders and Trump picked it up as “crooked Hillary.” And because she has no visible personality, no passions other than politics, she has been vulnerable to type-casting. We all knew that Obama liked basketball, that he preferred ESPN to everything else, that his family was a model one. All the lies told by Sarah Palin just ran counter to one’s own eyes when they watched Obama (though some were hopelessly lost in the “everything he says is a lie” meme.) So who is Hillary Clinton — beyond “experienced”? I googled her hobbies which are: scrabble, crosswords, and gardening. What does she do for fun? Does she like music? Theater? For all the years in the public eye, we don’t know her. We don’t have a personal vision of her.
Trump, on the other hand, is really out there. Warts and all. He’s entertaining. He can make news every day if he wants to. He can make news being outrageous or by failing to be outrageous. We know he’s a womanizer and a blowhard and a crook. But, for his supporters, they feel like they know exactly what they’re going to get.
As for Booman’s post, the Democratic support among AAs and Latinos, gays, etc. is both a blessing and a curse. It creates groups that will vote for them. But those not in those groups often will think that the Dems are not on their side. Same as with Obama in 2008 when a check-out clerk summed it up for me: He’s going to take it from me and give it to “them.” I think Trump is pushing very hard on that button in white America.
You write:
“We know he’s a womanizer and a blowhard and a crook.”
That we do.
At least he’s not a heavy drinker.
If he was he’d be winning even bigger.
Later…
AG
Sign at rural Minnesota restaurant tells Muslims to get lost
Ah, the endless trench lines of the American “culture wars”; a perpetual struggle, which has now come to matter more than, say, funding the gub’mint or having a functioning supreme court.
The forces of reaction have been led by status quo white male privilege, which has seen its once unchallenged primacy increasingly curtailed. Supportive of slavery, genocide, implacable Old Testament social rules and the inalienable rights of (their) capital, while opposing economic regulation, women’s suffrage, civil rights, women’s equality and emancipation, sexual liberation–with gay rights as the latest battlefield. And I would add gun “rights” as a newly opened front in the culture wars, one which the forces of reaction have to date scored some very impressive victories. But they only can see their losses.
The problem with the culture war is the lack of much hard intelligence on the strength of the opposing forces. Evidence from badly worded polls seems the best that can be done. I mean, which side has the most troops? Who has the larger reserves? Are they equally armed? What are their strategies? Are they separable conflicts or one large universal one? Is the new weapon of social media simply a deceptive force multiplier, as implied by Doubthat?
Where’s the “victory” or even progress of Black Lives Matter? As far as I can see, the movement is losing some ground in the struggle, with Traditional Americans now having not much sympathy for the reality of the appalling treatment of black people by the nation’s police. Instead we seem to have increasing encomiums for the embattled coppers. And the instances of counter-violence simply harden the hearts of those who weren’t too sympathetic in the first place. Not much “ascendancy”, but the battle is just getting underway.
And what’s the actual strength and size of the reaction to the gains obtained in the gay rights arena? What can it plausibly accomplish? The main battlefield victories here came by numerous court rulings on gay marriage, finally capped by a 5-4 Supreme Court decision. There have been numerous reactionary attempts to subvert these rulings via the manufactured nonsense of religious discrimination as a means to set one constitutional right against another, and some countervailing official boycotts by various sports authorities (of all things). But where does this really leave the state of this battle and the forces of each side? We don’t know and can’t say. Reactionaries famously have never accepted Roe and have been one vote away from reversing it for about 25 years now, with vast tracts of the county remain militantly anti-choice.
This is a fractious country, and is becoming ever more so. It is now manifestly ungovernable and has been for quite some time, with the system rendered beyond dysfunctional. The funders of the conservative movement have used the culture wars as a cover for protecting and advancing plutocrat rights for 30+ years now, and it appears the recipe is starting to get rancid for the American reactionary. Yet they still tie all their cultural worries to vehement opposition to a functioning federal gub’mint and to saving the 10,000 year old climate, so for all their supposed frustrations in the culture wars and new-found anger at the coaches of Team Conservative, they still dance to the plutocrat tune.
I used to make the flippant remark to friends that we ought to just give in to Dixie: let them secede to run their fascinating little experiment in government-by-Christian-Dominionism. The problem is, look at the electoral map and you see that “Dixie” isn’t what it used to be.
http://www.vox.com/2016/9/21/12963334/clinton-millennial-problem
Forgot to add: the formative political event and date for the schism is Obama’s election. The younger millenials are simply too young to have formed political much consciousness before the Obama era so you have to look at the gridlock and frustrations of the current period as their formative years.
“In Wisconsin in 2013, Republican Gov. Scott Walker won 18- to 24-year-olds ‘outright’.”
Fascinating, especially as Walker and the GOP legislature were seemingly enacting laws affecting the state university system that would hurt those 18-to-24 year olds.
Perhaps the GOoP vote suppression operation needs to rethink its college student division, haha.
With data like this, politics by policy appears a dead end…
It almost looks like parent cohorts influence child cohorts. Boomers as the offspring of the Lost and Greatest generations; Silent Generation having Gen-Xers as offspring; Boomers influencing Millennials and now the Gen-Xers starting to have influence on late Millennials.
But you have to factor in the different life experiences of each of those parental generations and the different valuation on their relationship with their parents that the youngsters have.
When do we have the Thermidorean reaction to the failures of modern conservatism? They claimed in the 1970s to speak for the Silent Majority. Well, what did the Silent Majority of “Real Americans” get for their loyalty to conservative ideology and candidates?
What people believe about reality becomes part of that reality even if those beliefs are destructive. And the various bigotries that Clinton wrapped up as “deplorable” are destructive of other people and of the holders of those beliefs, including Donald Trump. But that destruction does not always include the destruction of “Success”, “Power”, or the other seductions of capitalist and thus US life.’
Yes, Douthat is good at explaining the attitudes of his peers, but that’s just about the limit of his usefulness as a journalist and polemicist. We know what it is to be a white guy having to deal with blacks, a male having to deal with females, and a straight being confronted with the fact that there are various sexual identities and orientations and likely have been all along. Contra Douthat, it is not like civil rights laws invented black people (race codes 330 years ago did that), or the equal rights amendment invented the war of the sexes, or court decisions permitting gay marriage invented homosexual relationships and same-sex orientation. The question for Douthat and his intellectual kin is how serious they are about the principles of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution that they worship as sacred documents. Likely as serious as they are about the Holy Bible that the want to shove off on children because they know that they have failed as adults to understand it.
The culture war is and has been for thirty years such a red herring as has the notion of political correctness. What is being pushed is the right to dominate as a Constitutional right and the illegitimacy of civil society or legislation to preserve equality under the law.
What has been at issue is what is the authoritative grounding of American political culture (or American culture in general) in a privately multi-cultural society. For Enlightenment liberals, it really is an unsettled issue. For conservatives, it is the culture of Anglo-Saxon Protestantism (often appending “White”), or European Christianity, or Judeo-Christian Western civilization. The norms that every public school Western Civilization course and every public school American History and Civics course is mandated to teach by each state — that is the cultural authority.
It is in fact a civil religion that demands certain ritual observances: the Pledge of Allegiance in public school, the Star-Spangled Banner before public event (and not just sports), religious invocation at public meetings, displays of the national and state flags. All of these somehow mystically undergird the norms of civil society and cause people to act as model citizens.
And because the Warren Court allowed Madalyn Murray O’Hare to practice her atheism and not to pray, the disintegration of those civil norms have brought us a clown car of spoiled brats as presidential candidates and the chief of those spoiled brats as the GOP nominees. Or so the logic of civic virtue goes. And since virtue literally means manhood, you see where the Democrats are undermining our civil society.
Absent religion, where does the authority of the state come from and where the source of civic moral action?
It would be informative if the American voters could debate that issue honestly instead of trotting out their Gibbon and Spengler. And those are the erudite ones. The others trot out their fears. And the fears of African-Americans, Latinos, women, and LGBTQ people are not without foundation, despite Douthat’s fancy dancing.
Great article. I’d like to see a followup on the ways progressives have, after 50 years, succeeded and failed in the various key battles that emerged in the 60s.
Oh spare me Cardinal Douthat’s crocodile tearstained pious concern for for bigots getting upset that the people the bigots have always been able to shit upon are standing up for their actual rights.
This isn’t an interesting or even a remotely valid line of reasoning.
I’ll simply point you to this.
Comparing BLM to the fucking Terror is astounding considering how often Trump’s campaign has nakedly embraced fascist and neo-nazi memes.
Human species has a long history of giving a middle finger to reality, the United States in no less measure. Especially when reality has some progressive-liberal bias. No wonder this then:
Respect for reality is not that significant evolutionarily.
Here is what a “surreal” Japanese novelist Haruki Murakami reveals:
Oops, the evolutionarily link is messed up. Here it is rectified.