It’s remarkable how much easier it is to say things about Canada that apply more fully to ourselves. For example, this appears in today’s New York Times in an article about the recent shooting at a mosque in Quebec City that killed six and injured eight.
Canada is a remarkably open society, a legacy of liberal politicians who set the thinly populated country on the path of aggressive multiculturalism decades ago. Last week, Statistics Canada reported that by 2036, nearly half of all Canadians would be immigrants or the children of immigrants — most of them what the country calls “visible minorities,” which means nonwhite.
That rapid transformation is stirring the most conservative elements of the white Canadian population, who see the country as their own, despite the fact that Europeans took the land from a patchwork of indigenous peoples who had long existed there.
The article notes that this sentiment is “moderate by American standards,” which is putting it mildly when you consider that the sentiment in our country is held by the people sitting in the White House.
The concern among Trump officials is not that nonwhites will inspire a violent backlash but that they will become the perpetrators of violence against whites.
Trump’s top advisors on immigration, including chief strategist Steve Bannon and senior advisor Stephen Miller, see themselves as launching a radical experiment to fundamentally transform how the U.S. decides who is allowed into the country and to block a generation of people who, in their view, won’t assimilate into American society…
…The chief architects of Trump’s order, [Steve] Bannon, [Stephen] Miller and National Security Advisor Michael T. Flynn, forged strong bonds during the presidential campaign.
The trio, who make up part of Trump’s inner circle, have a dark view of refugee and immigration flows from majority-Muslim countries, believing that if large numbers of Muslims are allowed to enter the U.S., parts of American cities will begin to replicate disaffected and disenfranchised immigrant neighborhoods in France, Germany and Belgium that have been home to perpetrators of terrorist attacks in Europe in recent years.
Within decades, Americans would have “the kind of large and permanent domestic terror threat that becomes multidimensional and multigenerational and becomes sort of a permanent feature,” one senior administration official argued.
“We don’t want a situation where, 20 to 30 years from now, it’s just like a given thing that on a fairly regular basis there is domestic terror strikes, stores are shut up or that airports have explosive devices planted, or people are mowed down in the street by cars and automobiles and things of that nature,” the official said.
It’s hard to say that these fears aren’t genuinely held by these individuals, although it does seem like a convenient way to rationalize immigration policies that disfavor nonwhites. And, to be clear, I don’t want this country to develop “disaffected and disenfranchised immigrant neighborhoods” that breed domestic unrest and terrorism. If I thought Trump’s policies were the only thing standing between us and that dystopian future, I would consider them more on their merits and constitutionality than on their mean-spiritedness and ethno-religious bigotry.
I also can’t tell the future, so there’s no way for me to assure people that their vision won’t come to pass. It does seem to me, however, that we already have large diverse metropolitan areas with nonwhite majorities and lots of Muslims, including Muslim immigrants both from countries that are on the ban-list and from countries that have actually bred terrorists who have attacked our country and our country’s interests. The populations of these cities have not demonstrated anything like the disaffection we see in some European cities and suburbs.
Obviously, that could change. But if I were to draw up a list of what would change it, it would include much of what the Trump administration is doing and planning to do. Attacking their voting rights, using them as scapegoats and whipping boys for partisan advantage, questioning their patriotism and right to be here, adopting an aggressively pro-settler policy with Israel, having the president talk about the effectiveness of torturing them, having the president recommend collective punishment for terrorist attacks, having the president talk about stealing oil from Muslim-majority countries, and treating Muslims as a second-class category for the purposes of immigration and travel…these are all things that might arouse unrest where almost none exists today.
People are people, and they don’t respond well when they’re ill-treated, disrespected, and their rights are violated.
Clearly, my view on this isn’t unique. Nearly 1,000 State Department employees have signed a letter dissenting from Trump’s immigration policies, and their reasoning is that it will poison our relationships in the Muslim world and increase the threat of terrorism. It seems obvious to me that the best way to poison domestic Muslim relationships and to inspire domestic Muslim unrest is to do things that first accomplish these things abroad. In other words, Trump’s policies and rhetoric seem well-suited to creating a threat that didn’t previously exist, thereby achieving a self-fulfilling prophesy for their dystopian future that would seemingly justify their actions.
In that case, though, their policies will have failed to prevent what they feared and therefore would not be justified in retrospect even if they might look that way.
The Trumpistas sound like they want a war of civilizations but they’ll argue that we’re already in just such a war. Their actions are designed in such a way to erase any debate about the issue. The risk is that they will behave as if we’re in a war until we actually are.
In the meantime, the actual unrest and the actual terrorist threat that’s growing is coming from stirred up conservative elements of the white population (both here and in Canada). The most powerful element of that stirred up population is currently running the Executive Branch of our government.
Ah! The evil white people again. God! We should all cut our throats, no?
Actually you should be more generous to people who are not white. That seemed to work in the 1960s and early 1970s before the austerians took over the country and shipped jobs overseas. (And wars.)
Actually being smarter about voting at the local and state levels is more effective than cutting your throat. Also being more aggressive in holding private miscreants accountable.
I’m curious. Several liberal European countries consider cultural norms of immigrants to be sacrosanct and are very, very unwilling to interject the state into the mix. This leads to very unequal protection under law for females who wish to assimilate in the Western culture against the wishes of their “tribe”.
Which countries are those? Europe has gotten mugged by the current invasion of illegal unvetted migrants, who have committed sexual assaults, are unwilling or unable to get jobs, and commit crimes. In Denmark, they tax them if the invaders have excess property. Hungary and the former east countries will not accept any. In the Netherlands, migrants are forced to watch a video about Dutch attitudes, which includes gay kissing, and they are forced to agree to these rules. In Britain, Brexit was fueled primarily by huge dislike of the invasion of migrants. In France, they are rounding them up from the squatter camps in Paris. In Italy, they can’t get rid of them.
What countries in Europe? Europe today is NOT the Europe of 2014. Merkel’s insanely stupid decision to go “open-borders” changed EVERYTHING.
One example among many…The mysterious death of Samira Munir, a Norwegian politician, in Oslo
And deep distaste for the issue of FGM in almost all European states. And child brides.
The question is: has unwelcome communal burden of post-9/11 scrutiny in the guise of anti-terrorism measures promoted a victimised and beleaguered self-image, deeply suspicious of the European culture that surrounds it? Poisoning any interest in assimilation…
That may be another example of a migrant invader crime.
One other issue in many European countries, especially Norway, Sweden, and others in that region – there is censorship and suppression of the actual crimes being committed. Police are censored and are unable to say “migrant” or “Muslim” in reports, although it is well known to be a huge problem. There are areas where police are now unable to go due to migrant gangs. In Germany, comments about migrants are suppressed.
What that does, of course, is stoke the fury of patriotic folks, who turn to the right as the only ones who will listen. The migrants and the stupidity of Merkel and other have elevated the right to a currently high place. And they will get more impetus as time goes on. Watch Sweden Democrats, who are a right-wing anti-migrant group. In France, the election of later this year has just been thrown into chaos by a scandal involving the leader in the polls. Le Pen may yet pull out a “Trump” in France. And Petri in Germany is going to have a very good year with AfD.
Alt-lefties in this country think that pro-open-borders is a good approach. That’s a false idea. We will see a huge reaction this year as the invasion season picks up again. Italy is full, and more boats are coming. No one wants the millions of incompetent invaders in Italy. In Germany, asylum denials result in the migration of those persons to other countries where they are denied again.
Millions of invaders in Europe. Something is going to happen. It’s not going to be pretty. Because at this point it is Europe OR the invaders.
From Nov 2016 RT:
As more crimes are committed by the invader migrants, the SD get stronger. The invaders, who came due to open-borders globalist stupidity of the left, are hugely fueling the right.
I think people need to consider what you’re saying, but your interpretation of events is unfortunate. Others should read this to see that you have a point. You should read it to rediscover your humanity.
I am well aware of the ontogeny of this disaster in the EU. It’s a combination of Merkel’s own history, specific cases, and the disaster of the Schengen elimination of borders.
We now see, clearly, exactly what the “open-borders” insanity does. It produces a disaster. The EU is a disaster now, and it will be getting worse this year. Because the invasion is not ending, due to the insanity of the UNHCR and the various post-war commissions.
What is going to happen with more than 1 million migrants in Germany, a large proportion of which will not get asylum?
What of the 600,000-700,000 africans in Italy, who are not welcome anywhere and who are not refugees but economic migrants?
What about the sex attacks? Anyone give a rat’s ass for the women who are now forced to cower in fear where they formerly could walk around? After all, these places that are now too dangerous for women are their own home towns.
You cool with that?
In Paris, there were camps in the Petersburg district. They were broken up, and are now reforming.
Europe demonstrates the impact of unrestricted immigration.
Has anyone seen marduk and nalbar in the same room at the same time? There is more than a whiff of sock-puppetry about these siamese troll twins.
You’ve hit the high notes- they’re welfare moochers, they’re criminals, they’re going to attack your precious white women, they’re literally invaders- but you forgot to hit the “disease-ridden” slander for full marks.
How about you fuck off to Stormfront, eh?
For morons like you, who know nothing, all of what I say should regarded as absolute truth. Fuck off yourself, asshole.
You apparently are stupid enough to think that dropping a “troll” turd is the same as doing something. More indication of the absolute lack of anything approaching thought on your part.
I won’t be responding to further word-turds from you. Go ahead and “troll”-rate me. It only demonstrates your cluelessness.
But I do so enjoy white supremacists spewing profanity. Whatever will I do now?
So, you self-identify with whites who are against nonwhite immigration?
Is your view more nuanced than that? Am I being unfair?
The White Power folk aren’t confined to the Republican Party, as you can see.
Ah! I see. Wanting to be regarded as an equal is “White Power”.
What in any of the above lead you to believe that anyone on this blog (other than trolls) thinks that Whites aren’t equal to anyone else?
I never said I was against non-white immigration. Yes, I self identify as a white person. Even worse an “old white male”.
Seemed like you were self-identifying with the conservative whiles I am criticizing in this piece, and I was criticizing them for being so hostile to nonwhite immigration that they’re lashing out with violence and with support for politicians like Trump.
Otherwise, why would you say that the piece was a criticism of you?
I want to suggest something in this exchange – not because your response is unfair – but precisely because it is.
There has been a sort of reflexive tendency to blame everything that happened on November 8th and since on racism.
Let me give a serious example. Bradley Delong spent about 8,000 words in vox on trade deals. Delong is a serious guy, with serious academic credentials, and his argument was well reasoned.
But the close is revealing.
The point isn’t that Delong is wrong – though I surely think he is – the point is his conclusion suggests that populism is based on xenophobia and race.
Chris Arnade has written some great pieces about the white working class. He suggests that the reaction is based on real things, and documents the feeling that the white working class feels betrayed.
The danger – and in my opinion it is partially why we lost and have been losing – is that race has become an excuse to cover up the betrayal of the elite rich.
I saw this in Philadelphia. Bernie delegates were actually pretty open about it. And I think there is truth to it. Ironically this was far less of a problem for Obama than for Clinton. Obama I think always understood he needed to appeal to the White Working Class on grounds other than race.
The problem is that race IS a large part of what drove Trump to the White House.
So figuring out how to talk about these issues without resorting to blaming everything on race is a VERY real problem for Democrats right now.
Perceptive comments.
Racism is the “charge du joir” for the alt-left. Whatever is going on, there is a notion in the minds of many that “racism” is the reason.
It is not intelligent. Very little of importance today is due to racism.
More importantly, it is a short-circuit for actual thinking. If you can ascribe some action to racism, you don’t need to go further. It stops thought.
This is why the issue with rural folks is so concerning. Over and over, I hear that these people are racists. Hey, some of them are, but that is not an explanation for much. Many other things are going on – resentment with authority, unwillingness to pay taxes which are used to solve problems in the big cities, feelings of powerlessness, lack of jobs/opportunity, concern that the college degrees that are so expensive get you nowhere, a lack of jobs for adults which do not involve being a clerk at minimum wage, and so forth.
But if all the problems can be ascribed to race, HEY!! Those fucking racists!! Who cares about them!!
A person who is openly, proudly, objectively racist- who makes racist arguments and remarks and advocates for racist policies- doesn’t get to whine about being called racist.
White males: the biggest victims on the planet.
If only they had some representation in government to help protect their interests.
The populist politicians riding the wave of public anger against the establishment, talk xenophobia / islamophbia because it delivers votes and comforts their urge to stay in power above principles of human rights. The nationalists/fascists speak of our judeo/christian heritage (some ‘moral values’ thoughout history) that needs to be preserved …
○ Pope Francis Revolution – Europe’s Destiny Is Multicultural
○ The Contributions of Immigrants to American Culture
○ The Other War: FDR’s Battle Against Churchill and the British Empire
JFK and Lyndon Johnson years adjusted U.S. immigration policy towards meritocracy and family reunification …my diary:
○ America’s Greatness Ended With the Statue of Liberty
And the defenders of the national origins system — those who understood its complexities — seemed intellectually on the defensive. Few seemed able to match the blunt counterattack made a decade earlier by former State Department Visa Office head Robert C. Alexander in an article in the American Legion Magazine in 1956:
“What do the opponents of the national origins quota system want when they glibly advocate action which would result in a change in the ethnological composition of our people . . . perhaps they should tell us, what is wrong with our national origins?”
Still, a major problem for defenders of the existing system was flaws they were forced to acknowledge. Up to 2/3 of the immigration flows after World War II had come outside the quotas, as entrants from the western hemisphere and refugees. The system had become a swiss cheese of loopholes, with the result that annual numbers had been rising and the cultural background of immigrants was not what the system was designed to produce. Complex manoeuvring produced a House version of the administration’s legislation that ended national origins quotas and shifted to a system of preferences based on family reunification and skills.
Senator Sam Ervin of North Carolina was the only member of the Subcommittee on Immigration defending the national origins system during hearings. Ervin met every administration witness with the argument that you could not draft any immigration law in which you did not “discriminate,” in that you favor some over others. Why not then discriminate, as the McCarran-Walter Act did, in favor of national groups who historically had the greatest influence in building the nation?
“The McCarran-Walter Act is . . . based on conditions existing in the U.S., like a mirror reflecting the United States.”
To put all the earth’s peoples on the same basis as prospective immigrants to the U.S., Ervin argued, was to discriminate against the “people from England . . . France . . . Germany . . . Holland” who had first settled and shaped the country. [11]
Just a reminder that Sam Ervin’s finest moment was during Watergate and the circumstances of history force that on him. The Civil Rights Act by requiring him to campaign more mellowed his views from 1956.
In 1956, there were few white Southerners who weren’t white supremacists and fully supportive of the dodges to Brown v. Board of Education, the literacy tests, segregation of public accommodations and other aspects of Jim Crow. After all, it was the norm, not the exception in attitudes.
There are a lot of us now and our kids and grandkids who do not want to go back to a society that depended on hidden violence for control.
Oui, isn’t the gripe in Europe that there is little to no assimilation going on with these groups? They do not want to become Frenchmen, German, etc. Turkey has specifically made it policy for their guest workers in Germany–maintain their cultural separation. Previous waves (’50-’60s) of same ethnicity were eager to assimilate.
The EEC of the six nations was founded in 1957.
You had the Benelux, France, Germany and Italy. From the earliest beginning, as soon as the economic opportunity in the EC countries became attractive due to higher economic growth, there was a need for migrant workers at lower wages. The employers forced the politicians to accept migrants in order to be competitive in the global market. I recall economic migrants coming from Southern European nations like Spain, Italy and Greece to the Netherlands and Germany to fill “vacant” jobs on a temporary working permit. Once the EC expanded to oher nations and the EU was born, this proces continued with foreign migrants workers from Marocco and later Turkey. The employers would recruit the workers locally in those nations and the Immigration Policy would be compliant to the needs of the corporations. Many workers would take low-paying jobs in the textile industry which was in a downward trend due to competition from Asian nations. Most of these migrant workers with poor education would remain in the host nations. Later the policy was set to accept family reunion and the next generation grew up within the host nation and many were well educated.
From Morocco, many of the laborers came from the Berber region. The next generation, the girls performed much better in schooling and continued their education to become professionals in their specialty. The boys were forced in an education system that was standard for the Dutch for example. Multiple languages French, English and German in addition to higher math. Somehow the male Moroccans were better in doing manual labor like carpentry, building and installation type of work. The young men missed out on a proper education, stayed behind the young women who assimilated better to western values. As a result, the young men who were quite conservative, would go to Morocco to find a marriage partner. Immigration policy cannot prevent someone who chooses a partner in a foreign nation. These Moroccan women are conservative, not well educated and lack the ability to assimilate in western society.
From decades of poor leadership, a problem had grown larger. Lacking opportunities in a fast changing world to digital technology and service oriented, many of the migrant children stayed without a job longer than the average Dutch. As getto’s developed, poor housing and low paying jobs, the petty thieves were more often tieners from Moroccan or Turkish descent. The problem grew bigger and bigger.
In addition, the discrimination became a main issue as persons with a Moroccan or Turkish name would not get invited for a job interview. After 2001, discrimination became rampant in The Netherlands, in part due to the growth of far-right political parties: Glimmerveen, Fortuyn and Wilders.
Btw, Dutch nationals from former colonies also have had problems with “assimilation” in The Netherlands: Dutch citizens from Indonesia, province of Molucca, Surinam, Aruba and the Dutch Antilles in the Caribbean.
Terror in Holland – hostage taking in trains and a school in 1975 and 1977.
The Moluccans were a next generation from fathers who had served in the Dutch military (KNIL) in the colonial period before Indonesian Independence of 1948.
The Turkish population in The Netherlands have a similar tale of being recruited from rural parts where Islam culture is quite backward and many have just lower education and proficiendy in reading and writing. Serving to keep profits up of the Dutch manufacturing industry until the corporations moved overseas and left the migrant problems for another time and place.
The Spanish, Greek and Italian migrant workers were mostly men, they didn’t really “assimilate” but returned to their native country once the home nation grew jobs and economic opportunity, for example by expansion of the EU.
I have family in Toronto and we visit every 2 years or so. The city is very cosmopolitan. You will often see a strip center with a Thai restaurant next to an Indian restaurant next to a Jewish deli next to a store selling African jewelry. I live in the Chicago area. You would never see that here.
While I have not heard recently from our Canadian relatives of these issues occurring, we need to recognize what is causing this so-called “war of civilizations” is not a recent phenomena. I cannot urge anyone who follows this blog enough to make sure to read Colin Woodard’s American Nations (one of the best history/political books I have ever read) which explains how all our political issues were built into the DNA of this country by the founders of our colonies in the 1500’s and 1600’s (and not Washington, Adams, Jefferson, etc.)
Canadians have a more homogenious colonial history. Other than the French/English divide with Quebec, the culture and history of Ontario is much more similar to the history and culture of British Columbia than the history and culture of Massachusetts is to the history and culture of South Carolina.
These things matter and its why what is going in Canada will be milder than anything you see here.
Drive down Devon Avenue, you would see it there.
As a white, Jewish convert to Islam who has lived in various regions (red and blue) and traveled the world not quite extensively but has seen a good bit, I feel like I have a unique perspective with views of several cultures. The bottom line for me is quite clear. People are people. Our differences are truly skin deep.
Until Trump issued this clearly racist directive, my fear of a Pence administration working hand-in-glove with a Republican congress was enough to have me rooting for Trump to cling to power. But now I’m beginning to feel that we’d actually be better off with extremist Republicans in all three branches than with this group of myopic bigoted assholes.
People like Steve Bannon should try hanging with people of color. He might be surprised to discover they’re shockingly, amazingly human. Yes, some are mean spirited and confused about issues like right and wrong — just like white people. But the vast majority are well intentioned. Even those who hold limited or ignorant ideas are mostly well intentioned.
We’re designed to be tribal. It’s in our DNA. There’s obviously some survival advantage when living in the kinds of conditions we evolved around. But the world is now far smaller and more integrated. Such ways of seeing no longer work. We must evolve in a way that provides empathy; that helps us to see through the eyes of “the other”; and that allows us to embrace all of humanity as our family.
The Killer was a francophone from Quebec City. This relevant if you know the recent history there.
In 1995 Quebec very nearly left Canada. The difference was largely the result of two groups:
*Anglophones who opposed leaving almost universally
*Immigrants, who were equally opposed
As time has moved on and immigration has increased, the chances of the Quebecois ever leaving Canada have grown dimmer. Most Quebecois know this – and it would not surprise me if there was lingering resentment from it.
It is also worth remembering than the Quebecois look to France as much as the US. La Pen is as important there as Trump I would guess (though historically Quebec Nationalism was a movement of the Left, not the Right).
People often talk of “liberal, tolerant” Canada. It is a reputation well deserved. But Canada is also a warning – lingering discontent a generation ago nearly destroyed it.
There are lessons. One is multiculturalism is really hard. I think liberals tend to underestimate this and have misjudged the issue. When “racism” becomes the answer to everything, it makes it too easy to see gradations in opinion and to see ways in which policy can be used to reduce concern of the “other”.
Another is that economic stagnation and racial tension is a toxic mix. For much of its history Quebec was governed by the English. As late as the 60’s many of the signs in Montreal were in English, and the professions were dominated by Anglophones.
In fact the Separatists first gained power during the bad times of the late 70’s, and again in the mid-90’s (when Montreal was clearly in decline).
This isn’t going away- multiculturalism is also a fact.
They tried again a few years after my kid was born. His mom is a nurse, and they were seriously considering moving to Ontario if the Bloc won.
The bloc was crushed.
A large portion of the anlgophile population left Montreal in the late 70’s. I am not sure Montreal ever recovered. When you go there I am struck by the sense that the city stagnated from the mid-70’s to the mid-90’s.
have you been lately? It’s a lovely city.
I have been going to Montreal since 1972. As a kid it was the Expos and the Canadians in the old Forum. In my youth we went to St Catherine’s street for obvious reasons and to great concerts.
Later I grew to love everything about it. I have been to the Jazz festival many times.
It is a wonderful city – I was there in July. A good friend from Law School lives in Westmount.
i’m looking at rents.
As Bannon has explicitly endorsed a multi-generational war of extermination against the people of Islamic faith it makes perfect sense he’d want to keep as many as possible out of the US.
You’d think this would have gotten more play before the election but apparently there are other issues of far more vital public interest.
I wonder what his email administration practices are?
OT, but perhaps the next subject of letter from State employees? …
“Frustrated by the stalemate in this 33-month war of attrition, concerned that Western support is waning, and sensing that U.S. President Donald Trump could cut Kyiv out of any peace negotiations as he tries to improve fraught relations with Moscow, Ukrainian forces anxious to show their newfound strength have gone on what many here are calling a “creeping offensive.””
http://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-creeping-offensive-escalation-fighting/28268104.html
I hope this is an approved source for a link…
“They were in the process of being liberated, too.
Such ingrates!
I’m sure State will champion them with another letter.
Yes, D X M, it is very shortsighted of them.
Hard to believe they’d resist the benevolent embrace of mother Russia.
Clearly they hate the freeing whiff of Russian liberty.
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