It pains me to write this because it forces me to admit that my own countrymen let me down. But, looking back, I can see that Trump was able to basically follow the blueprint I created for Bernie Sanders to win the nomination and the presidency. Yes, of course, I would have tweaked the plan a bit if I had been writing it for someone seeking the Republican nomination, but it’s close enough that you’ll be able to recognize it in action.
Writing about Sanders, I noted that he needed to pull from three groups in addition to his natural constituency in places like Madison, Wisconsin. He needed some moderates, some conservatives, and some people who are usually disengaged from politics entirely. Try changing the names Sanders and Hillary to Trump and Jeb, and flipping other words like “Republican” to “Democrat,” “conservative” to “liberal,” and “socialist from Vermont” to “vulgarian from Manhattan.”
If Sanders has a mission, it isn’t to convince the natural constituents of the Democratic Party that they ought to vote for a Democrat. So, if you’re projecting how he’s going to do, you need to evaluate what his prospects for success will be among people who are more conservative or moderate, or who are normally disengaged from the process…To win the overall contest, including the presidency, however, he is going to have to achieve a substantial crossover appeal. If he beats Hillary, he’s going to lose a portion of the Democratic coalition in the process, and he’ll have to make up for it with folks who we don’t normally think of as socialists or liberals.
Some of this deficit can be made up for simply by bringing people into the process who would otherwise have stayed home, but that alone will never be enough. If you think the electorate is so polarized that Bernie can’t change the voting behaviors of very many people, then there’s really not even a conceptual way that he could win. If, on the other hand, you’re willing to wait and see if he can appeal to a broader swath of the electorate like he has consistently done in his home state, then the “white liberal” vote isn’t quite as decisive.
Honestly, a lot of these potential Bernie voters are probably toying with Rand Paul right now. Most of them probably can’t imagine themselves voting for a socialist from Vermont. But substantial parts of his message are really almost tailor-made for these folks. They hate big money in politics, for example, and feel like everyone else has a lobbyist in Washington but them. They hate outsourcing and are suspicious of free trade agreements. They’ve lost faith in both parties and their leaders. They can’t pay their rent or afford college. Their kids are all screwed up on painkillers and are seemingly never going to move out of the house. They’re sick of investing in Afghanistan while American needs get ignored. And they want the blood of some Wall Street bankers.
Bernie Sanders is going to make a lot of sense to these folks, even if they think Hillary Clinton is the devil and are trained to despise liberals.
It hurts to have to acknowledge that Trump succeeded in convincing folks, particularly Obama voters in the rural Midwest, that he would get big money out of politics and do something about the opiate scourge and keep us out of pointless wars and do something about their stagnating economies. But he convinced just enough of them to break through the traditional red/blue polarization, mainly by making red counties much, much redder.
It’s true that his approach, which was nakedly racist, cost him voters in the suburbs. But he won that tradeoff in the places he needed to win it, and he lost it in states where it turned out not to matter.
There are a couple of very important things to draw from this, and I think they’re mostly being forgotten or ignored.
The first is a little better appreciated, which is that this was antiestablishment year. What’s getting lost is that this was a bipartisan and even an independent revolt against the establishment. It didn’t have a clear left-wing angle to it. In and of themselves, being hostile to war in the Middle East or lusting for the blood of Wall Street bankers are not left-wing attitudes. Disliking government surveillance and distrusting the media are not necessarily left-wing attitudes. These things can be and were melded with racial resentments and religious insecurities. And, in the end, the voters who flipped parties were more conservative in their racial and religious worldview.
If I’d been a little more pessimistic about the American people, I would have recognized the potential for this when I was writing about how Bernie Sanders could go after the George Wallace vote. Looking back, that piece sounds a lot like what you’re seeing Sanders supporters argue today, which is that he could have won over the rural Obama voters and the disengaged voters that Trump grabbed on his road to victory.
We’ll never know the answer to that for sure, but Sanders didn’t perfectly follow my advice in the primaries and never got the chance to follow it in the general. So, it remains little more than a theory, although one that was at least partially proven true by Trump’s success. The part that was verified was that the country isn’t as rigidly red/blue polarized as a lot of people thought.
What I and a lot of other people missed is that the election wouldn’t be won by flipping counties from blue to red, but by making red counties redder than the blue counties turned blue. This was almost like a magic trick in that people didn’t see it coming. Trump would prove the elasticity of the electorate by making it more geographically polarized. The result wasn’t just a surprise result in states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin; it actually hid the secret from those who first started trying to analyze what happened.
Trump won mainly in the same places that McCain and Romney had won, and he mainly lost the places that they had lost. Overall, there was no big differential in turnout. Clinton typically netted close to or even more votes out of the cities, and most often outperformed Obama in the suburbs. In some of the richer better educated counties (see, e.g., the NYC suburbs in Connecticut), Republican support actually collapsed. What Trump succeeded in doing was converting northern rural America into a virtual one-party area much like we’ve seen for years in the Deep South.
As a result, I’m no longer comfortable arguing that these voters were equally available to either Trump or Sanders. It’s true that it was a revolt against the establishment of both parties, but it was also a white riot fueled by opposition to secularism, #BlackLivesMatter, the educated elite, and the browning of America. Conservative communities that had voted 65-35 for Romney (indicating a still-healthy level of two-partyism) suddenly voted 80-20 for Trump (indicating much more cultural consensus). And that cultural consensus was very one-sided in which establishment it chose to more strongly reject.
The second thing that’s being forgotten, though, is that Trump still won by spending nearly a year trashing every Republican in sight. So, even if the general election turned on a wholesale rural rejection of the mainstream and cultural left, the primaries turned on a wholesale rejection of contemporary Republicanism.
This is becoming a very important thing to understand as the Trump administration and Ryan and McConnell’s Congress start trying to hash out a budget. The voters may have given the Republicans the trifecta of power in D.C., but they spent most of the election cycle raging against the status quo in the GOP. It’s been much noted that Trump lost the popular vote, but less observed that even the right wasn’t ratifying Bushism or Boehnerism or the fruition of all Paul Ryan’s best laid plans.
Mr. Trump’s budget blueprint — which is expected to be central to his address to Congress on Tuesday night — sets up a striking clash with the House speaker, Paul D. Ryan, who has made a career out of pressing difficult truths on federal spending. For years, Mr. Ryan has maintained that to tame the budget deficit without tax increases and prevent draconian cuts to federal programs, Congress must be willing to change, and cut, the programs that spend the most money — Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
But Mr. Trump, in a dogged effort to fulfill his campaign promises, has turned that logic on its head in the budget outline he is expected to present to Congress this week.
The Sanders folks will readily recognize the problem. The voters made Trump the president but Trump didn’t run on austerity or slashing people’s retirement security. That Trump offered people everything (tax cuts, more defense and infrastructure spending, deficit reduction) and asked them for nothing is now an unsolvable problem for him as he attempts to keep all his campaign promises. It turns out that taking away health care from millions is actually asking people for something. And it turns out that you can’t pay for all the things he’s promised without going after entitlements.
Trump’s problem is that his agenda makes no internal sense and simply doesn’t “add up.” Paul Ryan’s problem is that the president basically promised not to enact his agenda. In fact, Trump destroyed eleventy billion Republican rivals who were all running on some version of Ryan’s agenda.
Because Trump’s victory was basically a rejection of status quo conservative economic or budgetary ideology, it leaves the Republicans without anything approaching majority support for a sweeping reform agenda. The people didn’t vote for what Ryan wants to do, and they never reckoned on the impossibility of what Trump was promising he could do.
This is important because it makes it likely that the GOP can be beaten in Congress even though they theoretically have the power to ran home very radical and catastrophic changes.
At the same time, because the election turned on a kind of furious rejection of the cultural left in very specific localities, the Democrats have never been a worse position to take advantage of the Republicans’ failures. The Republicans’ strength is the unlikelihood that more than a small handful of their members will be held accountable for their failures by losing their jobs. However inept and pathetic they are, at least they’re not trying to give the wrong people free stuff or criticizing the police or teaching their kids to doubt their religion.
Overall, the increased geographical polarization that occurred in the election doesn’t just hand most of our states’ legislatures into seemingly perpetual Republican control; it makes it very hard to win control of the U.S. House of Representatives or the U.S. Senate, and it inoculates most Republican lawmakers from any challenges from their left.
Massive failure on a large scale will have an impact, obviously, but not one close to being commensurate with the will of the people.
What I’m arguing here is more frustration than defeatism. As I’ve spelled out, the Republicans’ problems are nearly as great as the Democrats’, and they have the disadvantage of being responsible for what happens. I’m frustrated that a minority of Americans have created this mess and that it will be so hard to fix it. I’m frustrated that the Republicans remain more scared of their right flank than their left. The implications of what I’m saying bother me because I have no desire to make accommodations or concessions to anyone on the other side of the culture war, and I really want to believe that this will never be necessary.
But I’m also frustrated with the left in this country, much of which seems to believe that the election can be explained and rectified simply by offering to do more redistribution or by taking Democratic Socialism to the sticks. There’s no question that the Democrats need to go into rural America with a program that can at least win back 30 or 40 percent of the vote there, but it’s not clear to me that anyone has come up with the economic program or messaging that would achieve that.
I wish I had easy, pat answers, but I don’t. And I am growing weary of people who pretend that they do. The model that might have worked for Sanders wound up working for Trump, instead. That’s a hard lesson.
A look at the vox article does prove useful in seeing what healthcare economics might play better. This was a focus group in Harrisburg PA.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/27/14745210/obamacare-enrollees-repeal-plans
I somewhat agree that simply taking an economic message of democratic socialism would not transform things. But we need to get out there and start putting out some kind of a message that is at least relevant. We can refine based on the circumstances. Whats the alternative message?
I think the problem Booman’s getting to is one Kevin Drum explained more efficiently the other day: racism plus economic populism wins. Living in my red area, and working in an even redder one, I see it all the time. It’s always about what “those” people are getting. Liberals want to take tax money and use it to give “illegals” food stamps. Trump promised to fix that, using Bernie’s language. That’s also why I think Bernie wasn’t a sure bet either.
Frankly, the New Deal coalition included people who did the same as Trump. Think about it: social security didn’t include domestic and agricultural laborers for a reason.
Would unabashed racism plus establishment Republicanism also have won? I presume so–I presume it would’ve won bigger–though I have absolutely no evidence for it.
I suspect that establishment Republican racism ‘failed’ electorally because it was too coded. And coded = PC. And PC = everything the Republican base hates. Never apologize, always antagonize.
I could repost the quote from Zeynep Tufecki again from last June, but no one was as clear eyed as she was in seeing the power of fusing economic resentment with ethnic resentment.
This still hasn’t gotten through to people, but a key part of Trump is linking economic stagnation to political correctness. So when people say he says something outrageous, his response isn’t just disagreement. It’s see – these are the people who took your jobs – and the way the control your lives is by calling everyone a racist.
SS did not include many other categories of workers, either. Look it up. Did not include farmers, in fact.
Maybe a contemporaneous paper on the issue could shed some light? The administration section? (https:/webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:2jLbQ-IfVYEJ:https:http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs
ssb/v7n4/v7n4p3.pdf+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)
You sneer at the New Dealers. Are you familiar with FDR’s Black Cabinet?
From the late 1860s through the early 20th century, AA exclusively identified and tied their cultural ambitions to the Republican Party. You do know that AA changed their voting patterns dramatically during the Depression? In the 1936 election, Roosevelt would receive 71% of the Black vote and nearly that amount in 1940 and 1944 as well. By the end of Truman’s term, about half had become Democrats.
Those New Dealers must have been doing something right.
Your comment is uninformed. Where did I sneer at New Dealers? And what makes you think the Southern Democrats who controlled committees during the New Deal suddenly opened their eyes on Jim Crow? A huge tension in the New Deal program had to do with race. Maybe it’s not me, but you, who is sneering.
“…social security didn’t include domestic and agricultural laborers for a reason..”
It just was not the reason you seem to think.
Titles I and III of the omnibus bill we call Social Security were state-based and designed to deal with the concerns of mainly Southern Democrats in mind. You are right that the exemptions in Title II were occupational considerations and not necessarily race-based, if that’s what you are getting at. Still, you and I both know that a large tension in the New Deal was over race. There’s whole books on it.
Yes, clearly when it came to the “dole”, white Southerners got their way–the benefit for AA was reduced.
It is honestly reported as so in documents of the day. There was no political/social down side to being frank about it in that era.
So when they say in documents that administrative difficulties caused Sec Of Treas Morgenthau to strike that category, I do take their word.
Farmers and domestic and farm labor was not added until 1950, I believe. The first enlargement of eligible, at any rate.
I’ve long said that the success of European social democracies are in large part because of ethnic homogeneity. Unless you can expand the definition of “us” and “them” but you’re fighting against evolution.
Interesting take on it.
I meant to add that I think that’s the Key to Everything!
There was an older article in which Vox did interviews of ACA exchange customers in coal country, and found that one of the most common complaints was resentment that they can’t have Medicaid because they’re working. Medicaid is a better deal. So they voted to scrap the whole thing.
Also like to add, very good writing on your part. Getting to the heart of the problems.
Even if the Democrats under Perez, Ellison and Obama develop a strong recruitment program aimed at the red and purple states, to field good candidates for all positions, that in and of itself will take many years to see any kind of fruition. With the VRA dead, for all intents and purposes and civil rights under attack, the courts will not be a source of support either. The only thing that could change, at this point, is for the white Republican voter to change. Either they will be shocked and angered at the catastrophe that Ryan, McConnell and Trump deliver that really seriously hurts them or they decide that there needs to be more balance at the federal level. In the first instance, they don’t vote, in disgust. In the second instance, they vote for moderate Democrats. Frankly, I don’t think either of these outcomes is actually likely but I do think they are slightly possible. If things just continue the way they have, however, we may see sustained riots and possible imposition of martial law.
I think this is extremely convincing and well-stated, but have a few questions. You say:
How would you weight the relative importance of those two things? To me, #1 feels trivial, the equivalent of saying ‘beautiful, huge, the best, very good, believe me,’ all the time. ‘Getting money out of politics’ and ‘helping stagnating economies’ were justifications for voting preference, not motivations for voting.
What’s the relative importance of partisanship? That is, once Trump won the nomination, how much did people just vote Republican? His support may have collapsed in CT, but did it remain high in the battleground states? He was running against a candidate who is more strongly identified with the opposing party’s establishment than almost any other person.
And in terms of this being an ‘antiestablishment year’ that ‘didn’t have a clear left-wing angle to it,’ I think Sanders (or any other liberal antiestablishment candidate) was facing serious, maybe unsurmountable, hurdles. You can’t run hard against the status quo if the previous president is a beloved member of your own party. Sanders made some tepid criticisms of Obama, and lost a lot of support. (Race is also an issue with this, of course.) If he’d campaigned harder as an antiestablishment candidate, I imagine he would’ve done less well in the primary. Hell, he got slammed by Dems for pushing universal healthcare and criticizing Kissinger!
Is the good news is that in three years, we’ll be in a position to run a scorched earth antiestablishment candidate, who goes incredibly hard and pulls no punches? (If we can find one, which might be another one of those unsurmountable hurdles…)
It is odd. On the one hand there seemed to be a lot of anti-establishment energy. On the other hand Obama was extremely popular throughout the campaign and remains so.
Bravo, this gets to the heart of the matter and reaches the inescapable conclusion, IMO.
We ran an uninspiring candidate that large numbers of (white) voters had deep-seated emotional antipathy towards, at the same time that the plutocrats’ imbecilization of the white electorate reached the tipping point. The absurd electoral college delivered the coup-de-grace.
The coaches of the “conservative” movement that speaks for the refusenik white minority understood some time ago that the norms that had been holding the jury-rigged “system” together had to be wrecked, and the system blown up. So we got racialization of the white electorate, steroidal gerrymandering schemes, 50 year old Catholic white male “conservative” activists masquerading as justices, unprecedented filibusters, nationwide vote suppression schemes and reliance on the electoral college as a routine strategy.
The goal is to make reform impossible. The shackles are being applied. Trump (unexpectedly) turned out to be the American Fuhrer the Right had long been looking for–hence the rapturous applause for Der Trumper at CPAC. The nation gets either extreme reaction if Ryan’s Repubs have the courage of their convictions, or paralysis—but paralysis will be accepted by the incompetent white electorate as long as it is Repub-generated paralysis.
Unfortunately for the “conservative” plan, a house divided against itself cannot stand…
Sure is a lot of words to say that a Clinton/Obama Democrat was the best that the party could do against Trump in 2016.
There was no “revolt vote.” There was an “angst vote.” One of the two major party candidates spoke to that angst and one didn’t. He was also despicable enough that 6.1% of voters that showed up chose neither. (Up from 1.4% in 2008 and turnout was down 2.9% from ’08.)
If there’s one place in Canada that conservatives have had a lock on, it’s Alberta. The Liberal Party politicians have long been as much or more locked out there as Democrats have been in Kansas. Yet, in the 2015 general election, it was the New Democrats, previously barely a blip on the political landscape, that took over. Reducing the combined number of conservative and rightwing seats from 75 to 32 and increasing the number of ND seats from 4 to 54 (combined total liberal seats 55 — the LP (Trudeau’s party) was reduced from five seats to one.) In defiance of all the neat little boxes that Democrats have constructed to define the electorate and continue to push as real.
Note: the New Democrats party in Canada is not to be confused with the US New Democrat Coalition, a quasi-successor to the DLC. They wrote a letter to Trump that includes the following:
The DWS gang’s form of resistance to Trump (and the GOP): bipartisanship yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
Yep, I found the two of ours that I expected.
Canada’s system is a lot more friendly to 3rd parties, as are most parliamentary democracies producing a superior form of government to our own.
You know, I haven’t seen any mention of the likelihood of new rules for third party inclusion in presidential debates after that court ruling.
Pierce has some solid truth here.
Thanks.
This is a good piece, but I want to correct something important. You write:
This just isn’t true. Trump flipped some of the most important counties in America:
Macomb county in Michigan: he won by 10, a county Obama won. There was a net swing of 70 K votes between 2012 and 2016.
Pinellas in Florida: Kerry and Obama won, Clinton lost.
A map of 2012 compared to 2016 sees counties flipped in Florida on the I-4 corridor, in Ohio, in rural Wisconsin and in Pennsylvania.
So here is why this matters. People keep saying elections are base elections. They are about turning vote out, not about persuading people.
But this just isn’t true. The shifts in 16 were enormous.
We need to persuade people.
And so here is where I completely agree with you.
I don’t know what to do either. I think 2016 was a change election: Bernie would have won I think because he represented change and Clinton could not.
But the problem as I see it is bigger: we have to start by answering how we help people. People want jobs – we need to have a convincing explanation about how we will do that. People need to be heard: but we need to that without playing to racial fears.
And we have to find our way back to the young. This is in many ways the worst aspect of 2016. This was the future – and it was blown to hell.
Here the task is easier – this group hates Trump. But in large numbers they gravitated to third parties. They need to be won back.
Want to get really depressed? Read a liberal economist. Read Krugman or Stiglitz or someone else.The suggested answers always make feel like THERE IS NO solution.
One thing to note: Clinton ran a very negative campaign. Trump actually spent more time talking about issues than she did, which is amazing given the type of campaigns Bill ran.
Running a negative campaign when your opponent is a florid psychotic strikes me as a public service.
And utterly failed.
“Utterly failed” would look like this.
Still had more seats in state legislatures, and governorships compared to today.
Yea – people knew that already.
I believe you’re misinterpreting the chart. Personal doesn’t mean personal attacks. Positive biographical ads would also count as personal ads (and Hillary ran a ton of ’em). According to the same group you took the chart from, 2016 had significantly fewer negative ads than 2012 and was on par with 2004 and 2008.
During the campaign, I thought one of Clinton’s biggest mistakes was putting out so many white papers just to say she had a white paper on a given subject. Hitting Trump over the vicious, the stupid things he said, was pretty redundant. Still, I thought she’d do enough to come out on top.
Here’s the map.
Other than Luzerne County in Pennsylvania, no counties of significance flipped.
In Florida, it doesn’t look like any I-4 counties flipped.
In Ohio, a couple flipped around Youngstown, but overall the trend was just as I describe it.
Michigan say some flipping and also some poor turnout in Detroit.
The main flipping that mattered occurred in Iowa, which seems to really dislike Hillary Clinton, and Wisconsin. Also, Northern Maine.
There are a couple of important flips in North Carolina, too.
Overall, though, just hover your mouse over the rural counties and watch the votes slip away from the Democrats in dramatic fashion. Doesn’t really matter the state, although some, like Kansas, hardly changed.
Do you know where I-4 is? Pinellas is in it. As I said, Obama won it. Clinton lost it.
I don’t disagree with you generally, but counties flipped in rural Wisconsin and Michigan that were important.
And of course the big one to flip in Michigan was Macomb.
Fine, if you want to include Pinellas in the I-4 then there’s one country. I consider it the terminus, so I-4 to me begins where it ends. But, whatever.
I-4 turns into 275 in Tampa: no one talks about I-4 and excludes Pinellas.
I’ll take your word for it.
The focus on counties that did or didn’t flip isn’t relevant to outcomes, is it? I see it matters in re who wins the pissing match (Booman wins, always wins, clearly has a longer dick and can piss farther since he can arch his weapon of choice a little more optimally, and lest we forget it, like Trump itself, he will remind us).
It was sort of entertaining on election night when all the on-air reporters were breathlessly reporting how this county up in Wisconsin or that group of counties in PA that overall in 2008 and 2012 went for Obama but last year “flipped” to Trump. Sort of. At this point it continues to miss the point that counties don’t matter in re overall votes in a state for statewide races (like president and Senate). They don’t get together in Luzerne as a claque an decide who gets to be President; votes there just feed into the statewide total and, turned out, Luzerne helped give Trump the victory in Pennsylvania (never a reliable Democratic state anyway, to their credit, despite the Clintons taking it for granted).
Martin: You’ve been obsessing over every burp and fart of Donald Trump for so long now you’ve sort of assimilated some of his worst habits, worst among them, failing to understand what others have to say since you think what you just said was, ever and always, more important. No offense (yawn), just chill or get back on your meds or whatever.
(Pretty sure I meant to say “get off the meds” not to encourage you to get back on them. On that point I’m sure we agree.)
I was going to do this for Ohio, too, but I have to go to dinner so I am out of time. Anyway, here are five counties in PA that show the general trend. This is how Clinton lost despite having a bigger lead than Obama out of the the two big cities and the suburbs.
Pennsylvania:
Elk Co.
Forest Co.
Juniata Co.
Greene Co.
Schuylkill Co.
Potter Co.
oops, on the last two, I reversed Trump and Romney’s results.
And here are the counties that mattered in Florida:
Pasco:
Obama margin: -14k
Clinton margin: -52
Pinellas (St Pete) – which Kerry carried in 2004
Obama 2012: +26K
Clinton 2016: -6K
Polk County came
Obama -17K
Clinton -40K
Sarasota
Obama -15
Clinton -26
Hernando
Obama -7
Clinton -27
Other end of I-4
Brevard:
Clinton -62
Obama – 35
Volusia
Clinton -33
Obama -3
For all the talk about the rural vote Trump’s % in the larger Panhandle counties really wasn’t much bigger than Romney’s (Santa Rosa, Okaloosa)
The large shifts in Florida were along the I-4 and southern I-75 counties.
These shifts offset increased vote margins in the big three (though her percentage didn’t increase, the gain is from population increae:
Broward
Obama +264
Clinton +288
Palm
Obama +102
Clinton +100
Miami Dade
Clinton +290
Obama +209
In Florida 4 counties flipped.
In Florida narrow margins became large margins in the I-4.
When Floridians talk I-4 Corridor they don’t talk about just the counties that touch I-4 – minor point changing nothing – but most conversations about I-4 take into account the suburbs of Tampa and Orlando.
Irrespective of that, it was in the suburbs/exurbs where Florida was lost. These where shifts NOT just of rural voters, a mistake I see commonly made in respect to Florida.
This is different, I think, then what happened in PA.
This should help: FT – Record-breaking auction for Obamas’ book deal tops $60m.
Trump will expect $250m for his ghostwritten book or maybe the three ghostwritten books for himself, Melania, and Ivanka.
…that Sanders maybe did “come up with the economic program” that would persuade the constituencies that seemed to have made the difference for Trump last year. Hillary clearly failed, utterly failed to deliver a credible economic message to voters. By the convention, she finally began to try to do it, but by then it seemed like it was more forced on her than her own idea. With all of her other baggage, it was hard to believe she would follow through on a $14.50 minimum wage, on killing TPP, on Medicare-for-all; and she never said a word that I can remember, even then, about seriously punishing the banks that have (almost always) made our lives miserable.
Sanders had the message from the day he threw his hat in the ring. He was credible from the beginning on the economic message that would have resonated not only “geographically,” but with the clear majority of American voters from all “identity” groups.
Maybe we can’t know now whether or not his “authenticity” as the voice for that economic message would have won. It’s been a long time since Democrats fielded a candidate like him (over 70 years by my count), so how would we know?
We do know that the last time we fielded a candidate that said “…I welcome their hatred,” our economic fortunes changed for the better. Since then, not so much.
In 2008 those folks in those geographic regions where it was least expected said “we’re voting for the nigger.” Last year they might as well have said we’re voting for the Jewish commie instead of Trump. Either way, it was clear a long time ago to everyone but the Democratic establishment that they weren’t going to vote for Clinton.
“looking back, I can see that Trump was able to basically follow the blueprint I created for Bernie Sanders to win the nomination and the presidency.”
And that Bernie wasn’t allowed to follow. Trump got the nomination of his party, Bernie didn’t. Now don’t tell me he didn’t deserve it, or he never could have, or he never should have. The point is, he didn’t.
The difference, of course, is that Bernie understood what he was doing, whereas for Trump, as always, it was a scam. You can even say that Trump, on some level, does feel loyalty to those who support him — but he hasn’t the faintest idea how to achieve the vague and self-contradictory goals he claims to have. In fact, nobody could do this, because taken all together, it’s nothing but a bundle of contradictions. I mean, just look at his cabinet. Look at the GOP legislative agenda.
And Bernie would have pursued this coherently and without racism. Not saying how far he could have succeeded, but he would have had a lot of popular support for programs that actually make sense.
I can see that even Bannon, the brains of the operation, doesn’t know what the f-k he’s doing, he just thinks he does. As for the GOP, they’re all totally full of shit.
The future depends on whether an effective economic agenda without the intolerance can win over enough Trump voters and third party/inactive voters. I’m deeply disturbed by how the intolerance is feeding on itself and growing right now, and every time the Trumpers defend some new episode they dig themselves deeper into an emotional hole they may never crawl out of.
I’ve been reading George Lakoff recently about how to talk to conservatives – he’s the only person I’ve found who’s trying productively to address the communication divide:
https:/georgelakoff.com/2017/02/10/ten-points-for-democracy-activists
I’ve read some of Lakoff too, and I would agree that he has some good ideas. The problem I see with Lakoff is not Lakoff himself but the liberals who read Lakoff and come to the conclusion that what they need to do is just find new and better ways of expressing the same old ideas that they have been recycling since forever. In other words, to them it’s just a matter of coming up with a new and better marketing campaign.
This is what every failing business does. It is what the DP has been doing here since June of 2015 when they fired their old leadership, which was a disastrous mess, and elected new leadership which is disastrous too but in a different way. They now chatter incessantly about “messaging” as they fall further into decline.
Lakoff has something to contribute but he’s no panacea and no substitute for an analysis of why the liberal project isn’t working any more.
…(continued)…
“The future depends on whether an effective economic agenda without the intolerance…”
This is the key point. Perhaps with an effective and credible agenda, and Lakoff’s ideas about presenting it, the Democrats could begin to claw their way back.