I haven’t forgotten the Revolutionary War or the War of 1812, but Britain and America have fought two world wars together since then and forged a “special relationship” to stare down totalitarian communism. You’d think it wouldn’t be necessary for the leaders of the United Kingdom to have to put up with stuff like this:
The White House has apologized to the British government after alleging that a UK intelligence agency spied on President Donald Trump at the behest of former President Barack Obama.
National security adviser H.R. McMaster spoke with his British counterpart on Thursday about press secretary Sean Spicer’s comment from the White House podium about a Fox News report that said British intelligence helped wiretap Trump Tower during the 2016 campaign, a White House official said Friday.
The official described the conversation as “cordial” where McMaster described Spicer’s comment as “unintentional.”
McMaster also told his counterpart that “their concerns were understood and heard and it would be relayed to the White House.”
I guess by “cordial” McMaster means that no one got punched in the face.
Apparently, there were “at least two calls” from annoyed British officials in addition to a direct call to Sean Spicer from the British ambassador. I spent a little time last night watching BBC News and they spent the entire time treating our president like a submental unbalanced charlatan, which is what he is. The main point they were keen to reiterate every five minutes was that the GCHQ (the U.K.’s equivalent to our National Security Agency) flatly denied that they had spied on Trump and that they wanted everyone to know that our president was full of “nonsense” and shouldn’t be taken seriously in the least.
The strong language from Downing Street — which followed a similar, rare statement from the UK intelligence agency GCHQ — indicated that the British government was furious that the US had made such an incendiary allegation.
And, yes, this kind of irresponsible leadership from the White House has consequences:
Tim Farron, leader of the UK Liberal Democrat party — the junior coalition partner in the last British government — described the White House claim as “shameful” and said it risked harming US and UK security.
“Trump is compromising the vital UK-US security relationship to try to cover his own embarrassment,” he tweeted.
This is your daily reminder that a minority of the American people elected a Birther.
When you put a Birther in, you get unsubstantiated wild allegations coming out.
There will be no end to our shame and humiliation until this election mistake is somehow rectified. And then there’s the intolerable risk this puts us in, which is never clearer than when North Korea is in the headlines.
Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson ruled out on Friday opening any negotiation with North Korea to freeze its nuclear and missile programs and said for the first time that the Trump administration might be forced to take pre-emptive action “if they elevate the threat of their weapons program” to an unacceptable level.
Mr. Tillerson’s comments in Seoul, a day before he travels to Beijing to meet Chinese leaders, explicitly rejected any return to the bargaining table in an effort to buy time by halting North Korea’s accelerating testing program.
Have you ever looked at a war game scenario for what would happen if war broke out between North and South Korea.
An actual war on the Korean peninsula would almost certainly be the bloodiest America has fought since Vietnam—possibly since World War II. In recent years Pentagon experts have estimated that the first ninety days of such a conflict might produce 300,000 to 500,000 South Korean and American military casualties, along with hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths. The damage to South Korea alone would rock the global economy.
Do you think we can contemplate undertaking such a thing on the say-so of Donald Trump?
link.
A cakewalk.
Say it like it is: fucking insanity is afoot. So we have a few hundred thousand at risk and S Korea has ten million. You’d think they would have a say in this sort of insanity especially when a mere hundred thousand of their people could die. Have they factored in a nuclear bomb or can they just “guarantee” that’s not gonna happen. What is the matter with us? Get these crackpots out of there.
And while I am ranting here what sort of an idiot is this Tillerson guy? Slice his budget all to hell without a whimper and travel with no pool press reporters to deliver a fuck you message to N Korea? Now there’s a profile in courage for you. Not.
Tillerson? He’s a “titan of industry,” a “job creator.”
Which means, of course, that he’s a stupid rich white man of a certain age whom a “selection committee” installed as the figurehead of a multinational corporation so he can “oversee” operations by vaguely paying attention in weekly meetings, have expensive lunches, fly around in a private jet, and fleece the company for hundreds of millions annually…until the precious stock price dips enough for the board of directors (composed of carbon-copies of the same entity from other companies) release him with a golden parachute and rotate another overpaid, dim-witted rich white man into position.
These are the most important people in our society — the ones who deserve the most reverence, respect, privilege and, of course, money.
Remember the phrase “Thinking the Unthinkable”? Maybe before your time.
In the sixties, “megadeaths” was thrown around and we were talking about the USA.
The above was to say I’m not surprised, not an attack on your horror.
Of course, for the North, obliterating Seoul would be the main point. Anything else would be gravy.
We kinda suck at this whole “self governing” thing.
Apologize? Trump?
The NYTimes has this about that:
So is McMaster in trouble now?
Hey, I thought Der Trumper promised there would be no more apologizin’ for America!
I’m sure (completely unqualified) plutocrat Rexxon Tillerson (and his bubble of dingbat Trumpite advisors) will calm the troubled waters….
It would be nothing to wake up to a massive war on the Korean peninsula in the next 4 years. And it sounds like the strategy of our crackerjack Joint Chiefs of Staff has about the same likelihood of success as the Schlieffen Plan, ha-ha. Pleasant dreams!
That will be the historical judgement on this administration. And that’s the best-case scenario.
Tillerson is chest-beating before going to talk to Beijing. The traditional message at this point to the Chinese would be, “Get your client state back in line.” That sets up the kabuki so that North Korea knows what the US opening gambit will be. We will see after the visit what happens. Courtesy behind closed doors can make up for a lot of chest-beating for public audiences. This is a test of what exactly Tillerson can do, given Trump’s inconstancy.
The 67-year no-negotiations stance on both sides have allowed both sides to arm themselves to do even more damage than they did to themselves the first time.
The total population on the peninsula is estimated at 75 million. That is around the population of the US in 1900.
It seems to me that once you understand that Trump’s tweets are intended as 2020 messaging of his base, especially the ones who loved his speeches, what is happening is easier to understand and oppose. A lot of distraction disappears.
It goes beyond Trump is President and Pence is Prime Minister. Trump is king and Pence is Prime Minister. The cabinet is siloed into their specific agendas. There is not supposed to be any coherence in policy so long as Trump’s donors get satisfied.
With no center, to speak of, Trump has little to do but tweet, play golf, and make sure none of the silos sullies his brand. There are likely experienced professionals among the appointees who can make the “executive decisions” short of having to bring them to the President for decision.
This pattern duplicates itself for the departments slated for termination. The Secretary or Head acts as the figurehead to communicate with the base that the department really is going away. But what happens when those figureheads start exercising their own egos and want to highjack the department for certain policy directions? They collide with the Republican Congress who want to zero out that budget item.
It is the civil service who will be sitting on their hands for four years except for fielding arbitrary instructions that have no coherence.
○ Trump to Merkel: We were both wiretapped under Obama | BBC News |
○ White House-GCHQ row reveals a leader willing to alienate allies to save face | The Guardian |
Earlier …
○ US President Trump welcomes Chancellor Merkel to the White House | Deutsche Welle |
A Secret Service laptop went missing … with floor plan of Trump Tower!
○ Secret Service agent’s laptop containing Trump Tower intel stolen from parked car in Brooklyn
Posted earlier in my diary …
○ GCHQ and EU Intelligence Eavesdropped on Trump Tower Communication
The wiretapping crack made me laugh, I admit.
Tillerson stuff is just talk most experts say. Actual actions haven’t changed in regard to North Korea policy from Obama admin. That may change in the future obviously but it’s all tone for now.
Shame and humiliation? We are getting what we deserve for electing Trump. Good.
Except that the folks who most deserve to feel shame and humiliation aren’t feeling it at all. Neither Trump nor his coterie nor his enablers nor his cultish fans who voted him in are feeling anything but triumphant at how The Donald is putting the smackdown on all their enemies.
Saw a story earlier of some Drumpf cultist who was crediting him for the wonderful healthcare she had. Trumpcare/Ryan care has yet to be unleashed (and we have some cautious hope that it might not be), and Trump is already being bowed down to by his adoring deadenders.
Yeh, I saw that too. Pathetic, and not at all surprising.
ignorance is a horrifying thing to have to witness (especially since it harms the blameless right along with the willfully witless who enable the evil).
No known cure.
Heck, we’re getting what we deserve for electing Bush II. Clinton, in one of the few areas where he did real good, had reached agreement with the North Koreans where we would supply them with fuel for a nuclear electric plant and they would stop all research into nuclear bombs. We were also supposed to provide them with some food aid. Bush cancelled both promises and so the North Koreans proceeded to build them some atomic bombs so we might treat them with a little respect. “Nice little client state you got there in South Korea. Be a shame if something happened to it.”
. . . reminder” an actual daily reminder would be a public service. RE:
Lotsa people need that reminding regularly.
Daily doesn’t seem to frequent for it.
Plenty of folks need a daily reminder, maybe reminders, that tRump can command a significant minority of support (albeit in all the wrong places) and no more. The significant number of us who still value liberal democracy are not going quietly into that good night. Not by a long damned shot.
probably should have said that we won’t go gently into that good night. But I like quietly a bit better as to express that I plan on being vocal as hell.
MLW shut down a long time ago. But I do remember that Maryscott O’Connor had a signature in her comments that went, “Rage, rage against the lying of the right!” We should consider that part of an ethos.
After threatening war with N. Korea, Rex was apparently too tired to meet with the South Koreans. Is he that weak and old? Did the S Koreans tell him to go away? Did he belatedly realize the full implications of what he said and get sick? Inquiring minds want to know.
I think that the Pentagon, after Gulf War I, lost all competent leaders. What we seem to see are self-promoters and used car salesmen who are very good at creating personal connections with defense industries. They somehow think they are going to be able to escape the radio-active fallout that the rest of us will succumb to. The half-life of Cesium 37 is 30 years. There is no fallout shelter in the world that can sustain its occupants for 10 years. Probably the National Command Center (I’ve never visited it so don’t really know) can maintain life for its occupants for a year. The “civilian academic strategists” who seem to control much decision-making also do not seem to be able to imagine what effect the wars they propose will have on themselves. The novel “The Beach” is fiction, but it is based on real science.