I think it’s fair to say that the fundamental problem the congressional Republicans had when they were in the majority during the Obama presidency is that too many of their members could not be convinced that they lacked the power to impose their will on a Democratic president. Time and again, they took decisions predicated on the fallacy that they could get Obama to back down and give them everything they wanted. Try as he might, Speaker John Boehner could not keep the government’s doors open or pay our debts on time without running to the Democrats for support. Eventually, the need to do this repeatedly cost him his job.
Speaker Paul Ryan now has a Republican president to work with, but he’s already discovered that he can no more rely on his caucus to pass legislation than Boehner could, and he can rely on Republican senators even less. The problem is roughly the same, basically a strong streak of ideological lunacy precludes the Republicans from acting with enough unity to form a de facto majority.
I have to agree with Matt Yglesias that Paul Ryan has created a shambles because his grand strategic legislative plan for this year was built on the faulty premise that he could get his caucus to move as a bloc and that he could depend on the Republican-led Senate to approve what his chamber produced. These assumptions failed their first contact with reality when his Obamacare repeal/replace bill failed to even come to a vote.
On the other hand, I think Yglesias is probably too forgiving of Donald Trump. Anyone who observed the congressional Republicans during the Obama years should have been able to anticipate that it was a bad bet to build a presidential strategy around forcing everything through Congress with nothing but Republican votes.
This would be true for a traditional Republican president like Jeb Bush or even Mike Pence, but in Donald Trump’s case it should have been especially obvious. He had success in the primaries, first and foremost, by trashing prominent Republicans and taking positions contrary to traditional orthodox conservatism. He promised the kind infrastructure spending that Republicans refused to authorize for Obama. His positions on trade were more familiar coming from the left. He basically ran against Paul Ryan’s granny-starving plans for entitlements, even ridiculing them. Where he fell solidly on the right, he was so far right (on race and immigration and Islam, for example) that he alienated moderate conservatives.
He really had no basis for thinking that he could get the Republicans in Congress to approve the things he had campaigned on doing without getting some Democratic help. The debt ceiling will need to be raised soon, and Trump has no obvious plan for attracting Democratic votes for that. He has no workable plan to get the Democrats to work with him on infrastructure or tax reform, either.
What’s strange is that he seems to have fallen into this all-Republican no-Democrat strategy immediately. I can tell this by the fact that the health bill Speaker Ryan produced bore no resemblance to what he campaigned on, yet he didn’t seem to have any problem with that. It seems that he believed Ryan when he told him it was the only kind of bill the Republicans could agree on, and so he signed off on it. That was a failure on two counts. The first failure was believing that Ryan could deliver any all-Republican bill at all. The second failure was going for a bill so unpopular that only 17% of the public could support it.
Trump took the wrong path from the outset, but he also burned all his bridges behind him, which is why he cannot backtrack or get a mulligan. In theory, if all he wants to do is simplify the tax code, he could get a bipartisan tax reform through Congress. If he was willing to do direct spending on infrastructure similar to what Obama did with his stimulus plan, he might be able to pass that with mostly Democratic votes. He could still fulfill some of his promises even if he had to rethink how they’d be constructed.
But he made himself so toxic to Democrats that they want nothing to do with him or his legislative agenda.
At the same time, he’s so dependent on Republicans in Congress to limit oversight of his nepotism, self-dealing, emoluments violations, and possible collusion with the Russians’ interference in the election that he can’t afford to have them further divided. He certainly can’t afford to have a significant portion of them turn against him.
As it is, he’s almost assured of getting a primary that would make Jimmy Carter and Teddy Kennedy blush.
So, while Yglesias is correct when he places a lot of blame on Speaker Ryan, I think the larger problem is that Trump didn’t think through what kind of cross-partisan coalition he’d need to be successful, who he’d need to lead it, and what steps he’d need to take to make up with the Democrats for his behavior in the primaries and the general election.
It is now assuredly too late to pivot or make corrections. Whether he continues to listen to Steve Bannon or he comes more to rely on the so-called New York Democrats in his West Wing, there is no strategy that will get him to the place that should have served as his starting line.
In other words, Paul Ryan could never be a useful Speaker for Donald Trump. The House Republicans were never going to allow him to be a different kind of swamp-draining Republican. The Democrats, while admittedly angry and hostile from the beginning, were an essential ingredient in any success he might have hoped to have. He needed to spend most of his early energy courting them, but he hired a neo-Nazi to advise him, stole a Supreme Court seat, and tried to implement a Muslim ban and Obamacare repeal instead.
As bad as this is, hopeless really, it’s going to get worse because Trump still needs to find a way to keep the government operating and our debts paid on time. He’ll still need to go through the motions of trying to enact his legislative agenda despite there being no possible way to succeed with it.
By the time the fiscal year ends in September, there will be smoking husk where millions once saw some promise.
Bonus points: the first day of a possible government shutdown, April 29, will be Trump’s 100th day in office.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/10/15210544/republican-plan-congress
I wouldn’t celebrate that.
It would be a beautiful thing. We need more beautiful.
Why not? A government shutdown might actually limit their malfeasance.
Got a theory for how?
I’m vindictive about this idiocy. So there’s that. The fuckers seemed to have a good time making Obama’s life a hell over this and then needing democrats to help,them out. No more. They own the whole thing now. It is damn well time they stopped stomping their feet and do the responsible thing, if they even understand what that is. But, sorry, I am happy not to be there. I want nothing to do with their cluster**ck. I got my popcorn machine ready to go. It might be fun watching how they get us out of the world wide crash, they could learn something.
It could also hurt a lot of people who rely on the government to survive – eat, pay rent, etc.
It’s not like Trump gives a shit.
Maybe not. But aren’t people who oppose Trump and want government to work for the benefit of all citizens supposed to?
Paul Ryan is for Paul Ryan, period. He wants Trump’s job. What kind of executive is Trump that he doesn’t understand this? It isn’t even politics. It’s pure corporate power maneuvers.
What exactly do you mean by this? Are you referring to those people who voted for the Popular Vote Loser for any variety of reasons but aren’t necessarily kool-aid drinking RWNJs? Or those who figured with the GOP in control of everything that the Koch wet dream of taking ‘Murka back to 1880 would be realized?
There’s plenty of blame to apportion out here between Twitler and Zombie-eyed Grannie Starver. It highlights just how effective a team we had in Obama and Pelosi.
He is cutting taxes and cutting spending. Assuming we are not in full on war come September we could be jining up a hell of a recession.
Given the sheer destructiveness and nihilism that is the modern GOP combined with the mendacity, incompetence and vengefulness that is the Trump Administration, the very best we can hope for, as a nation, is that nothing gets done but a debt ceiling extension and a CR to keep existing funding levels going for the government at least for the next 2 years.
Why would you assume existing spending levels. The Teatards us this as a way to cut spending.
I have to question your assertion that Trump ever had a “strategy” or a “plan”. He says what he wants and says something different next week. He appears to assume that what he wants will happen because he’s the President. He’s surrounded himself with people who have no idea how to govern, and he’s too dumb to understand how much he doesn’t know.
>>he’s almost assured of getting a primary that would make Jimmy Carter and Teddy Kennedy blush
god willing America survives four years of this shit to get there.
Did I really “assert” that he had a plan?
That’s a stretch.
His plan was to let Ryan do what he promised he could do. Beyond that, he had no plan.
I guess that will pass for a plan. it’s one thing Trump does consistently, rely on someone else doing the work.
but without ever really verifying that person’s goals match his. or reliably picking someone capable of executing the goals either way.
Ryan’s belief that he could keep his crew in line was delusional.
Since you brought up the subject of a primary, who do we think would actually run against him? I guess Cruz is a potential candidate, although who knows what remains of his fighting spirit after his abject humiliation during the 2016 campaign.
I’m still betting that the Republican primaries will feature Pres. Pence and challengers. Who will they be?
Romney will be tanned, rested and ready. Maybe Kasich.
Definitely Kasich.
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my first thought too. Trump wiped ALL of those losers out. What can the repubs do, rehabilitate Chris Christie? nothing left besides Zombie Reagan.
Gotta be Ted Cruz. He can come in and say, “Hey, I’m the real lunatic Republican that Trump said he was.” Yes, it’s total bullshit but since when has that ever stopped Republicans from falling for anything? The real subtext is “I’m the meanest, strongest, densest son of a bitch in the valley — the guy little-Donny-small-dick promised to be but didn’t have the cajoles to manage in real life.”
“strange he seems to have fallen into this all-Repub strategy immediately…”
It is strange to you because you are an open minded intellectual philosopher who has thought on American politics and government for a long time. It is decidedly not strange that an unqualified ignoramus who sought only to play prez would not think of it. Nor that any of today’s elected Repubs would think of it, Cryin’ Boner’s begging the hapless Pelosi for debt votes notwithstanding.
What is curious to me is not that Der Trumper could not pass American Government 101, but that even at their moment of supreme triumph, the Repub Congress is so manifestly incompetent that in the Glorious Hundred Days of Trump, they can pass nothing other than approvals of Trumper’s flushing of some late-term Obama regs.
On fiscal matters, one is starting to see that Ryan’s Repubs do not have the courage of their convictions. They ran ashore on Obamacare because they are afraid to return to the halcyon days of an essentially unregulated health insurance market. Indeed, they now jabber that Obamacare’s reforms are irreversible—they just don’t want to pay for them, ha-ha.
On the upcoming debt ceiling, it should be a simple matter to obtain an extension of the ceiling in exchange for promises of massive, massive cuts to all aspects of the regulatory state, and some of the many cuts to Medicare and SS they have long advocated. Yet they quail. Do they believe their “conservative” horseshit or not? Do they not think their braindead base believes the horseshit? They certainly can’t be concerned that the corporate media would ever call it horseshit.
Given Trumper’s manifest weaknesses (popular vote loser and Manchurian candidate) one would have thought that Ryan and McConnell would simply go in on Day One and say, “leave the legislatin’ to us, play golf, bloviate to the masses, and don’t blow up the world. Sign everything we pass. Or else”. Yet when it comes right down to it, they can’t even pass a fucking budget, of all things.
Ryan will either get by this set of debt rapids with promises of budget cuts or with the help of the doormat Dems,–who will demand nothing for the favor as usual. They will get a kick in the ass for their trouble, but they bring this contempt upon themselves. As Markey blithers and blathers that a future Dem majority and prez will restore(!) the judicial filibuster (with no Dem objections that I saw), it’s clear that no one here can play the game, but that Repubs are (incredibly) even more incompetent.
All one can say is WTF. This is your government on “conservatism”–everyone’s brain is fried!
You cannot be fucking serious. Ed Markey said dems will restore that? We have the government we deserve.
Your question regarding whether they believe their own horseshit made me recall this article by Alex Pareene which explains the dynamic. He boils it down to this:
“The most important major divide among Congressional Republicans isn’t between moderates and conservatives, or establishment and anti-establishment politicians, but between those who know that their agenda is hugely unpopular and that they have to force it through under cover of darkness, and the louder, dumber ones who believe their own bullshit.”
http://fusion.net/the-long-lucrative-right-wing-grift-is-blowing-up-in-t-1793944216
I thought it was a good read.
“…is that Trump didn’t think through …”
Would you please give ONE, JUST ONE example of Trump thinking thru ANY DAMN THING he’s done in the past 6 months???
So, I am currently shopping for a house here in Nashville, where the city is in the middle of a real estate bubble that is getting ready to pop.
I am not entirely sure the debt ceiling will be raised before our credit is damaged again. I’m not sure it will be raised, period.
So i am waiting on that purchase, for two reasons. 1) I don’t want to buy a house and then immediately watch it lose value if the US defaults. 2) If, on the other hand, I wait the interest rates will surely be higher, but the price i pay up front could be a LOT lower.
I believe it was one of the Rothschilds who said “Buy when there’s blood in the streets.’
I keep reading about the hope that democrats in Congress will exact concessions from the republican leadership in exchange for providing the necessary votes to raise the debt ceiling.
Unfortunately, the democratic “leadership” is beholden to Wall Street, and the puppet-masters will not tolerate a U.S. default (or even serious brinksmanship). Thus, some democrats will eagerly supply needed votes in exchange for not one damn thing.
And other democrats will fall in line because they can actually observe reality: even though Wall Street would get burned by a default, the downstream effects on the economy would be true hell for half the ordinary people in this country. That reality alone will be enough to push other democrats (not beholden to Wall Street (God, I hope such people exist)) into providing votes for the debt extension.
The only point you’ve not convinced me of, Booman, is that Trump has burned all the bridges. Politics is a weird sport and bridges are never truly burned. Were he to reach out to Schumer, there would be meetings and real interest in knowing what he’s thinking. I could see a deal on Obamacare for instance. Both Trump and the Democrats have an interest in making something fly and enough Republicans share that interest that there’s a narrow but real path to getting something done.
Now Trump would have to offer real reform that would make the ACA better and more stable. Then he could claim victory and call it Trumpcare. Ironically, his enemies would help with that.
California is always about 20 years ahead of the curve and this situation reminds me of what Schwarzenegger faced and the backflip he did to become, essentially, Obama (before Obama) on a variety of issues.
The more interesting question is whether it is actually politically possible to govern on conservative policy.
WRT to the repeal of Obamacare the answer appears to be no.
There was no policy that was acceptable to the Republican base that could have formed the basis of a bi-partisan compromise. And the policy itself was too unpopular (as indeed most GOP policy is) to generate public support that would force a bi-partisan compromise.
It may be easier to find common ground on taxes since a good portion of the Democratic caucus believes the corporate tax argument.
It would be easier on taxes if Republicans weren’t hell bent on cutting taxes for the wealthiest of the wealthy. That’s a deal killer for sure. Bipartisan tax reform would require a balanced tax deal, which would include increases in certain places to make up for decreases elsewhere. It would require a willingness to make real-world compromises with reality. No way we’re gonna see that from the “freedom caucus.” And what it would take to obtain bi-partisan compromise would have every moderate running for cover since they’re more scared of a primary challenge than the general election. Just don’t see it happening on tax reform.
The reason I think it’s possible on the ACA is because real structural reform that made the program better would be popular in the real world. It wouldn’t even necessarily be all that hard to do. Obama did all the heavy lifting. Perhaps a public option is unrealistic, but restoring risk corridors is enough of an insider thing they could probably get away with it. And, heck, there are small steps in the direction of prescription drug reform that would be outright popular.
But…but…but…
All of the above comments…and Booman’s initial post…are based on the following misconception:
What makes you all think that Trump…or his controllers, Bannon primary among them no matter what his “officiall position” might be…want to keep the current government in a position other than as a smoking husk?
September rolls around; the Dems + Rats have been rolling around in their own shit since they realized that Trump actually won the election and there wasn’t a damned thing that they could do about it; the government begins to shut down and Trump announces:
Watch.
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