Ryan Lizza reports that there are people in the White House who seem strangely exhilerated about the prospect of a government shutdown battle:
While the potential for a government shutdown has been overshadowed by other events—Syria, North Korea, the attempted repeal of Obamacare—the Trump White House is suddenly seized with the issue. “Next week is going to have quite high drama,” a top White House official, who sounded excited by the coming clash, told me. “It’s going to be action-packed. This one is not getting as much attention, but, trust me, it’s going to be the battle of the titans. And the great irony here is that the call for the government shutdown will come on—guess what?—the hundredth day. If you pitched this in a studio, they would say, ‘Get out of here, it’s too ridiculous.’ This is going to be a big one.”
I don’t know who Lizza is talking to, but he definitely sounds like a moron:
But it’s not just the Democrats who oppose several Trump priorities. Congressional Republicans, who are generally united in support for the increase in defense spending, are divided on the border wall, which is not popular among border-state Republicans, and the deep domestic-spending cuts.
So far, it does not look like a bridgeable gap. “This is going to be high-stakes poker,” the White House official said. When I asked if a shutdown was likely, the official paused for several seconds. “I don’t know,” the official said. The official added, “I just want my wall and my ice agents.”
It looks like the White House and congressional Republicans are about to have a Come-to-Jesus moment about the nature of reality. It’s a bit of a role reversal from the Obama years when it was the congressional Republicans who kept making impossible demands and insisting on doomed strategies. Now it’s going to fall on them to explain to the White House that they’re out of their fucking minds.
We control the office of the presidency and both houses of congress.
We’re going to allow the government to shut down to force the democrats to vote for our policy.
The policy to pay for the border wall we promised Mexico would pay for.
Truly we are Machiavellian geniuses.
BTW, Twain didn’t say that.
A link, perhaps?
you may well be right, but I’m sure I can find a place on the internet that agrees with me.
That’s true for everything! Such a useful thing, the Internet.
There is at least one source that contends that Twain never said, “If you don’t read the newspaper, you’re uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you’re misinformed.” The source of that quote is apparently unknown. Turns out that Twain didn’t say a lot of the things he said. 🙂
on this one! All of them.
anyone smarter than Trump saw this coming a mile away.
We’re gonna need a lot more popcorn. Maybe some Southern Comfort too.
I think my decision to hold off on buying a house is a good idea.
here.
Hope to “see” (at least in spirit) you all there!
This is important.
Was at the one in my location.
I don’t know who Lizza is talking to
Bannon or Miller. Definitely one of the bomb-throwing Steves.
Anyone – really.
Maybe Priebus has a couple of ounces of common sense, otherwise I can’t think of any Trumpenista who wouldn’t delight in and think they would profit from the chaos.
So, like Democrats, Republicans panic when they have the power to actual pass legislation that they have been conning their voters with. It is difficult to run on “Vote for me and will deliver you to the Wall Street banks, export your jobs, cut all your benefits and bomb everyone on Earth that doesn’t submit to Big Oil.” Good luck, Republicans, it’s your turn now.
Yeah, the Democrats were just like the Republicans when they had unified control of government. Truly the similarities are incredible.
Does bombing count? You know the patriotic kind? Maybe Trump should try it again since it was so popular last time around.
You mean like Obama. Sure it counts. So do drone assassinations.
Oh, right like Obama, just 3 times the rate, or was it 4 times?
Yemen raid? 59 cuise missiles? MOAB?
“We have the greatest military in the worls, i have given them total authorization”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Wv74v9k4g
Just the same. Like breaking your toe is the same as breaking your spine.
If you or your family suffered, you wouldn’t give a good god damned who did it however often. I will likely exit this world before there’s a settled opinion on Obama’s policies and actions in the Middle East. Right now I am reserving judgment, but at a minimum I see nothing to brag or crow about.
I’ll settle for not as lethally, abysmally idiotic as his predecessor and successor.
Do you think i am happy about bombing anything? The reality is that there always will be a push for violence, for whatever reason.
Obama at least had the temperament to resist the dumbest shit possible.
Who could have known Trumps temperament would be such that with very little provocation he tripled the rate of drone strikes, which i assume means more innocent families being blown up than before, just because of the numbers, and because they attack targets that are less certain.
On top of that Trump escalates, i assume because he is advised, and that the reasoning is that if he shows weakness, like Obama, that in the end there will be more violence.
He is easily manipulated it seems, and the people that do the manipulation have little to gain by bombing “those people” any less. Trump is no leader- he is the master deal maker, in his own mind.
No, what i argue against instead is your dumb idiotic idea that there is no difference. But you are in good company, many people cant see from where their heads are residing.
I didn’t say there was no difference between Obama and Trump. Or their policies. What I did say is that the difference is meaningless if you or someone you loved ends up dead.
Both sides! Both sides!
Corrupt duopoly!
Etc.!
Ah, a newbie. Yes. yes. Situational ethics. If our side sells out it’s good. if their side sells out it’s bad.
What are you? Two years old?
longevity of tenure here not being correlated with . . .
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Besides, jammni is user ID 7647 – hardly a newbie. Just someone who hasn’t posted for a while. Our regulars who like to diss others as newbies would find it wise to check those user ID numbers first. And even if this person were a newbie, so what?
trumps (sorry) a racist long-time regular every time.
weighs in.
Merci, oui! Ça je vais porter en fierté comme badge d’honneur en considérant la source.
Trolling of my comments never stopped, the mob mentality infiltrated here @BooMan! Why are YOU complaining in this one instance?
I’m observing. And describing. Your Howling Hypocrisy in doing exactly what YOU complain about others doing (others who do not include me, as I’ve noted before; when I have a negative response to a comment of yours — which is rare, since I rarely read them — I put it in a direct reply to the comment . . . like this!).
So here you are, not even limiting yourself to silly, pathetic AND hypocritical retaliatory tit-for-tat troll-rating of someone who troll-rated you, but troll-rating a substantive comment, documented with factual evidence, that does not conform to any reasonable, standard, or accepted definition of trolling.
IOW, abusing the rating system in precisely the way you regularly whine (accurately or not) about others supposedly abusing it wrt yourself/your comments.
IOW, the very definition of hyocrisy.
But I’m not complaining! Au contraire! I find it hilarious(ly pathetic). Go ahead. Knock yourself out. Be my guest. Have at it. Troll-rate away! The only one you make look bad by doing so is you.
sense.
Garbled mis-translation of quote instead?
Unbelievable Both-Siderism. Also, wrong.
You’re pretty stupid, aren’t you?
You have to go back some years to have a Democratic counterpart to the current Republican power. And in those years Democrats were talking to Republicans and to each other.
At he moment there are five factions in Congress and enough bad vibes that getting absolute Democratic unity is still a struggle. Good fortune that the GOP is has more internal bad vibes. And some who think they were sent to Washington to sabotage the federal government (these days, who knows? maybe they were).
The fate of the US stands with the billionaires of FIRE (finance, insurance, and real estate) an the law enforcement lobby behind ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement). Even T. S. Eliot has been transmogrified to farce.
Urp.. Robert Frost.
I am curious why you included the law enforcement lobby behind ICE?
Maybe from the sidelines it seems a lot easier than it is, but it sure looks like a scenario that a united Democratic front could exploit through the next half of the century if they had any brains and discipline at all. The viral talking points practically write themselves.
Assuming brains and discipline is like assuming a can opener PLUS a pony.
Well, that ensures it won’t happen.
I’m pretty sure Trump is willing to collapse the exchanges because he really thinks he’ll escaoe blame. Maybe he will, elections are a long time from now and can’t be moved up. But I doubt it. But his demand is paying for the wall which is not popular if Americans have to pay for it.
Couldn’t Congress have picked any day they wanted for their Continuing Resolution to expire? Wasn’t it the Republicans who picked the 100th day of the next administration for the CR expiration date? If so, then that date was chosen to make Hillary Clinton look bad if she won. It never occurred to them that if the Republican nominee won, that he wouldn’t be able to get a budget passed on time.
with a fairly high probability of being correct imo.
Kudos for noticing and thinking it through. (Puts you miles ahead of Corporate Media as far as I’ve seen/heard, to whom it doesn’t seem to have occurred yet. Granting I hadn’t thought of it either until you pointed it out. But then I also don’t get the big pundit bucks for providing “analysis”.)
That is kind of you to say. Thank you.
I expect to be on furlough as of next week. I work for a federal science agency with no regulatory or land-management functions. I’m one of those non-essential employees.
If benefit checks stopped being sent, John Q Public might give a rip about shutdowns and forloughs.
The practical upshot of the big, beautiful, border wall is that the Rio Grande becomes the exclusive property of Mexico. Why is President Trump pushing so hard for this giveaway?