Hopefully, by now you know what the following Tweet refers to:
Obviously I’m the first person on a campaign to ever take a meeting to hear info about an opponent… went nowhere but had to listen. https://t.co/ccUjL1KDEa
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) July 10, 2017
That’s the president’s son and namesake making an “everybody does it” excuse for why he and Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner met with a lawyer for the Russian mafia in Trump Tower in June 2016 in order to, he says, get promised dirt on Hillary Clinton.
Most of the early headlines on this story emphasize that Natalia Veselnitskaya is a “Russian,” as if that alone would indicate collusion or some kind of treasonous disloyalty to country. Other headlines add in the detail that this Russian is a lawyer, as if that alone would be a problem.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but both Hillary Clinton and Trump’s Republican opponents hired an investigative firm to talk to Russians (both here in the United States and in the motherland) in an effort to find dirt on him. That’s how the now infamous Steele Dossier was produced. If all Donald Trump Jr. did was take a meeting with some Russian lawyer, that would only be newsworthy because the Trump campaign has been denying that any meetings with Russians took place.
These headlines are missing the actual scandal here. Natalia Veselnitskaya is a lot more than a “Russian lawyer.” To fully explain who she is would require me to write a novel length post, so I’m going to ask you to do a little of the work here by following some of the links. You can start by skimming through the the complaint that then-U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York Preet Bharara filed against Denis Katsyv and his corporations. What you’ll find is a painfully detailed description of the biggest tax heist in modern Russian history and the astonishing amount of work that went into laundering the proceeds from the robbery. You’ll discover that the conspiracy was hatched and carried out by members of the Klyuev Group. Members of the Klyuev Group are described as Russian mobsters linked to the Russian government. In this case they’re linked to the Russian government through connections in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Tax Ministry, and the courts. Without these connections, the tax heist would not have been possible.
The conspiracy was very, very complicated and I spent many hours over the weekend reading up on it. I won’t attempt to retell the whole story here. One thing you need to know, though, is that the folks who uncovered the conspiracy have not had an easy time of it. The first man to piece it all together died while in Russian custody at the hands of the Interior Ministry. Another was recently pushed out of a 4th story window.
The key figure in Bharara’s case, Denis Katsyv, was represented by Natalia Veselnitskaya. She was the guest who met with Trump’s inner circle. Another key figure, Andrey Pavlov, is described as “the consigliere for the Klyuev Group.”
Now, one of the most curious things about this case is that it involved a $230 million theft from the Russian treasury but Vladimir Putin hasn’t shown the least bit of concern about the lost money. Instead, he’s been happy to see the whistleblowers and investigators arrested, beaten to death and pushed out of windows.
At this point, we need to discuss an act of Congress called the Magnitsky Act:
The Magnitsky Act, formally known as the Russia and Moldova Jackson-Vanik Repeal and Sergei Magnitsky Rule of Law Accountability Act of 2012, is a bipartisan bill passed by the U.S. Congress and President Obama in November–December 2012, intending to punish Russian officials responsible for the death of Russian lawyer Sergei Magnitsky in a Moscow prison in 2009.
Sergei Magnitsky was a lawyer retained by Hermitage Capital Management to discover how and why several of their subsidiaries had been stolen by Russian mobsters, sued in courts for breaches of contract, and then had the huge resulting penalties used as tax write-offs. He was the first one to discover that the crime was carried out with the complicity of interior and tax ministry officials.
In 2009, Russian lawyer and auditor Sergei Magnitsky died in a Moscow prison after investigating fraud involving Russian tax officials. While in prison, Magnitsky developed gall stones, pancreatitis and calculous cholecystitis and was refused medical treatment for months. Finally, after almost a year of imprisonment and on the verge of death, Magnitsky was transferred to a Moscow hospital. There he was greeted not by a doctor but by a number of Russian OMON who bludgeoned him to death.
Vladimir Putin was extremely upset about the Magnitsky Act because it ultimately sanctioned 44 Russian citizens, and he utilized Natalia Veselnitskaya to lobby for its repeal. This is where we get the nexus between these Russian mobsters and Vladimir Putin.
Natalia Veselnitskaya is a “Russian lawyer whose clients include Russian “state-owned businesses”, including Petr Katsyv’s son, Denis Katsyv. The latter owns Prevezon Holdings, an investment firm, and his father is the “vice president of the state-owned Russian Railways and a former deputy governor of the Moscow region”.
Prevezon Holdings is the firm that Preet Bharara took to court for helping to launder the money from the tax heist by using the proceeds to purchase pricey New York City real estate. And, naturally, one doesn’t get to be the vice-president of Russian Railways without being very tight with Putin. Veselnitskaya represented the Katsyv’s interests, but she also represented Putin.
Veselnitskaya is known for leading a “multi-pronged” attack against “the Magnitsky Act, which provoked a Cold War-style, tit-for-tat row with the Kremlin when President Barack Obama signed it into law in 2012”. Veselnitskaya’s campaign included an unsuccessful attempt in Washington to repeal the Act and to “keep Mr. Magnitsky’s name off the Law. She was “also deeply involved in the making of The Magnitsky Act – Behind the Scenes—an anti-Magnitsky film that premiered in June 2016. She provided the film crew with “the real proofs and records of testimony” according to RussiaTV5, a “station whose owners are known to be close to Mr. Putin”. In response to the adoption of the Magnitsky Act, the Russian government denied Americans adoption of Russian children, issued a list of US officials prohibited from entering Russia, and posthumously convicted Magnitsky as guilty.
On that last point, the Russians convicted Magnitsky of tax fraud after they bludgeoned him to death while in their custody.
Preet Bharara was of course fired while conducting this case and it was recently settled for about 6 million dollars without Katsyv or his companies having to acknowledge any guilt.
Now, going back to June of last year, when the meeting between Trump’s inner circle and Ms. Veselnitskaya took place in Trump Tower, we are expected to believe that no one on Trump’s side knew who Veselnitskaya actually was or what kind of connections she might have that made it plausible that she had dirt on Hillary Clinton.
Donald Trump Jr. offered the initial explanation that his meeting with Veselnitskaya only pertained to suspension of Russian adoptions, but he quickly abandoned that defense and admitted outright that his own personal motivation for seeing her was that she was promising information that could help his father’s campaign.
Perhaps Trump Jr. wasn’t conversant on the Magnitsky controversy at the time, but Paul Manafort should have been. He had been working the Russian lobbying circuit for long enough to know where the money was flowing, and Russia was very vocal about the issue. She should have been seen as an agent of a foreign power and of Vladimir Putin in particular.
More than that, though, she should have been seen as an attorney for murderous Russian mobsters with high-level connections to the Russian Ministry of the Interior. Simple prudence should have prevented them from getting entangled with such a person, and not just for political reasons. The potential for blackmail or violence were too high to be acceptable to a rational person.
To put a kind of broader perspective on this, try to imagine a United States president who would be unconcerned about a $230 million tax fraud and who would shrug when members of the FBI beat a whistleblower to death in prison. Then imagine that this president would have the deceased posthumously (and wrongfully) convicted in court. Then this president would hire a lawyer for the criminals and make her his point person for lobbying against the resulting sanctions. And, finally, that he would send this mob lawyer to Trump Tower where she would be accepted with eager and open arms.
These are the real facts in this case. It’s not that they met with some ordinary Russian or some ordinary lawyer.
So, let’s please stay focused on why this matters.
And why was Preet Bharara fired again?
In regards to “try to imagine,” I not only can imagine a U.S. president doing all these things, I believe we have exactly that person in power right now.
Well, maybe he’d do it if he could, but fortunately he can’t.
So far.
Um, wow. I’ve seen several articles about this particular collusion and none have gone into any detail about how deep this particular contact is wrapped up in the Russian government and the Russian mob.
Are there any other countries where organized crime is so tightly connected to top government officials?
Maybe China, but I doubt it.
Lets see if I got this right. Some government affiliated fuckers in Russia made off with $230 million from the Treasury, likely with Putin approval, murdered or assaulted two people ( all we know of to date) ruining whatever life they and their family had in the process. Then, since the investments of that money ended up in NYC the fuckers needed a cover up here. So why not help out numb nuts Junior and even his sillier father with his Hillary problem? And this they got for six million dollar penalty. Thems the facts. I should add add Preet got shit canned in the process for his trouble.
Seems like a good deal to me. I bet the Donald Sr. agrees. Now we need to find out how much he got out of it. But threat of blackmail will keep him quiet for now and a header off the George Washington Bridge a few years hence I suppose works too. Is that about right?
And of course, no one has any proof of hacking or interference by the Russians in the elections. They’re just Goodfelllas you know. They even want a cyber unit with us to help us out. Yeah right!
you’ve got the basics.
I left out that really neat trick of ” stealing” those subsidiaries and then suing them so they could claim back taxes after they were found guilty and had to fork over the refund. This exposes Putin. So what will he do now?
What will he do now? The cynic in me says he will tell Trump how to set up a similar fraud in the US run out of the IRS.
When you look at the clawback of benefits going on in Australia, you wonder what other countries Putin’s criminal operatives have gotten into.
This may be worse (or better depending on your perspective) that we thought. Putin appears the head of a criminal and nuclear armed criminal enterprise. Sort of rivals NK. And given the facts in this case likely controls our fearless leader. So what are the options here?
Donald could resign or be removed. Since he has also been exposed, Putin may take some independent action, it is even possible he rats out The Donald to regain his stature on the world stage.
The big money though is on nothing happening. Mum’s the word. It’s all fake news anyway. Send out Kelleyann. What hacking? Who cares what happens in Russia? Besides we have more important things to do like repeal Obamacare and give us all a wonderful tax cut. Nice solid majority, so let’s not squander it. Our nirvana to drown the state is at hand, besides it’s just the liberals making trouble as,ususal.
I don’t think anything will happen…until the 1st indictment from #TeamMueller comes in. Then we will be rocked to our core.
Currently researching how the Republicans slowly got in bed with the Russians over the past couple decades. Worthwhile reading.
Thanks for the line of research.
The collusion evidence grows.
Thanks for laying out this complicated tale hidden in court documents.
What the timing shows is that the Clinton campaign had a little less than 5 months to register what was going on and frame a response. It’s taken the media over a year to register what was going on. And researchers like you, BooMan have been going to open sources that were available to most opposition researchers.
This was known last year. Obama said so. He even sanctioned them. Now Donald will lift the sanctions and give those compounds back to Putin. Crime pays. if that happens given all that has happened it is akin to admitting guilt.
It could have been known last year if our illustrious billionaire-owned media had not been (what is the verb I’m looking for?) Trump and ignoring Democrats.
This was a year after Trump said that you’ll be so fixated on what comes next that he will win. Kayfabe and reality TV uses some of the same skills as a con man.
Notice that the narrative on the right is saying that the supposed dirt on Hillary Clinton was that she and Bill were linked to some shady characters in the Russian mob (I like the archaic term instead of the operatic one).
The very definition of a “sucker punch”.
The difference between the the Clintons and Trumps is an order of magnitude. Having a private server or even deleting e mails is a superficial crime, at best. Working with the Russians to aid in embezzlement, hacking to influence an election, obstructing justice by firing Comey and now even Preet, making the Presidency a personal profit center lead to somewhat more serious concerns and levels of culpability.
But then maybe Hillary had Vince Foster,killed?
In politics, this often comes as a pre-emptive lie based on projection of malfeasance that the punchers seeks to hide.
Thus the ploy of the lawyer offering a sucker-punch strategy to the Trump campaign as “Hillary’s dealings with Russians.”
At that point, there might only have been forged emails of interactions with Russians. A timeline of events showing when hacks occurred as recorded in server logs, when releases occurred, in parallel with the human interaction of collusion would be instructive. Hopefully, Marcy Wheeler will at some point be working on something very much like this research effort.
Where we are now is criminal collusion, obstruction of justice. The spilling about the hacking will likely come out through Mueller’s investigation (if Mueller is as much a straight shooter as the Watergate investigators and if Beryl Howell plays the role of John Sirica as matters come to court. And if the Appeals court and the Supreme Court don’t nullify Howell’s decisions.
The upper courts’ actions will depend on how politically hot the investigation will be for partisan court decisions. Neil Gorsuch will be the man in the hot seat; consistent Trump-shielding decisions from him will be a clue to his character.
This stuff is looking more and more like a bottomless well of corruption, influence peddling, espionage, tax evasion, perjury, and violence. And the special prosecutor is looking at all of it for slam dunk evidence supporting felony charges.
My guess is that the Special Prosecutor is going to recommend felony charges against a rather large number of Trump campaign staff, advisors and government officials. And Trump and the Republicans will scream “fake news!” And then they will lose elections and blame it on “the fake media and the deep state” hating Trump.
But, clearly he’s a ship that is taking on water slowly, but steadily. I just wonder how long it is going to be before his colleagues and associates start cutting deals and pointing the finger at Trump – like Haldeman and Erlichman, Mitchell and Dean.
Putin and Trump: Birds of a feather stick together.
I wonder if either of them would sing like a canary to save their own ass? And they don’t have to do it themselves.
I’d like to hear that song.
Cool, this made the Washington Post Happy Hour Roundup today.
Pay walled. What is it?
Guessing they have a monthly quota of free articles, and you’ve surpassed yours?
Beat me by five minutes. Curse you! [shakes tiny fist]
This!
Complete with link to the Pond.
Nice. Glad this post was recognized, it’s important.
Excellent. Thank you.
Excellent questions from a dKos thread:
Was Trump the only GOP primary candidate with which this lawyer tried to establish contact?
If only Trump, what made him special?
Look what we have here. Trump gave a speech on June 7th, four days after his son was contacted and two days before the meeting. In it, Trump promises to share information about Clinton’s “crimes” in a speech on the 13th. He knew about the meeting, and intended to use the information. The comments are at 7:00 minutes. https://youtu.be/SFIZ80Oqxxo
Well spotted.
My comment may seem “simple” compared to your complex research but I will share what I know from personal experience and what immediately popped p in my mind at the beginning of the Trump/Russia exposure.
My first husband worked for a marble/granite company some 30/35 or so years ago that engineered and provided granite skins bolted to steel on high rise construction. The company was involved with well known projects in various cities – Boston, Chicago NYC ….. granite came from all over the world including Russia. But I remember his recounting of having to deal with the “Russian Mafia” in NYC. Said anything significant in construction there is controlled by the Russian Mafia. Soooooooo… Trump came immediately to mind. There ain’t no way in h… that he doesn’t have a compromised relationship with the Russians. Plus, didn’t I read that “they” loaned him money when nobody else would? That’s my two cents.
A Gordian Knot unraveling …. never believe words coming from a spook!
Ahh … I missed that! In August 2016, British spy Christopher Steele briefed the F.B.I. about dealings of shadowy Russian figures and the Trump campaign! What a creep he is!
○ Did MI-6 – CIA Collude with Chris Steele to Entrap Trump?
British citizen Rob Goldstone is linked to Russian Emin Agalarov and via Leyla Aliyeva to the Azerbaijani President.
Rob Goldstone was used to arrange a meeting between Russian lawyer/lobbyist Natalia Veselnitskaya and the Trump campaign.
The Russian lawyer/lobbyist Natalia Veselnitskaya is not well known and has an obscure office in a southern suburb Ul. Lazareva Admirala of Moscow. She made headlines when she was hired by Denis Katsyv to lead his defence in Manhattan trial for money laundering of Prevezon Holdings Ltd. linked to the Magnitsky case. On May 12, 2017, US Attorney Joon Kim settled out of court, a ‘sweet’ deal some would say:
The U.S. agreed to take $5.9 million to settle a money-laundering lawsuit tied to a $230 million Russian tax fraud, avoiding a trial that was set to begin mid May.
Veselnitskaya hired Fusion to do investigative work and Fusion shared her lobbying effort in the States to get rid of the sanctions enforced on Katsyv by the Magnitsky Act of Congress.
○ Russian ‘Gun-For-Hire’ Lurks In Shadows Of Washington’s Lobbying World | RFERL – July 2016 |
Veselnitskaya did not deliver any goods about Clinton as reported so far, and from my viewpoint, the meeting does not in any way proof “collusion” between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin.
Veselnitskaya is directly linked to Glenn Simpson, partner in Fusion GPS of Washington DC, an organization that worked for Republicans, Democrats and a Russian mobster [make that multiple, plural].
The meeting with Trump Jr. took place on June 9, 2016.
Fusion GPS signed a contract with the British Orbis Business Intelligence group of Chris Steel, and Sir Andrew Wood. Orbis leadership worked as MI6 spies in the British Embassy in Moscow during the 90s.
Orbis worked for Fusion from June until early November 2016.
Fusion had already worked for Republican candidate Rubio who was supported by Paul Singer. There was an ‘opposition’ dossier on candidate Trump build up during the primaries. Fusion has financial links with Clinton supporters.
BREAKING NEWS: June 2016: Natalia Veselnitskaya showed up in Washington in the front row of a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on Russia policy, video | The Hill |
Fusion GPS is directly responsible and linked to British intelligence through former MI6 agents who worked in a spy nest in Moscow. I refer to their set of 16 “intelligence” documents simply as a “Dodgy Dossier” and so typically British.
Orbis is facing a lawsuit for libel. From the court proceedings Chris Steele has stated that the dossier was handed by Sir Andrew Woods to Mr. Kramer, assistant to Senator John McCain. Later Orbis gave an additional December memorandum to Fusion which was handed in hard copy to McCain and a senior UK government national security official.
○ Why Akhmetshin and Fusion GPS Should Be Investigated
The arranged meeting could just as well have been an entrapment by a Federal agency or IC. Trump has long been suspect of being too close to Moscow/Kremlin. Still I really have no idea what is going on!
Putin: ‘I Don’t Know the Man’