Between when Trump verbally committed to pardoning former Sheriff Joe Arpaio and when he actually did so last night, law professor Martin H. Redish of Northwestern University wrote a piece for the New York Times about the parameters of the presidential pardon power. What are the limits, and what can be done if the power is clearly abused?
Many legal scholars argue that the only possible redress is impeachment — itself a politicized, drawn-out process. But there may be another route. If the pardon is challenged in court, we may discover that there are, in fact, limits to the president’s pardon power after all.
The only effective means courts have to prevent or stop governmental violations of constitutional rights is through injunctions. But injunctions have teeth only when they have the potential of a contempt conviction behind them. In other words, in issuing an injunction, a court is saying, “stop doing that or else.” The “or else” is a criminal conviction for contempt, leading to a fine, imprisonment or both. Absent the “or else,” the injunction is all but meaningless.
But if the president signals to government agents that there exists the likelihood of a pardon when they violate a judicial injunction that blocks his policies, he can all too easily circumvent the only effective means of enforcing constitutional restrictions on his behavior. Indeed, the president could even secretly promise a pardon to agents if they undertake illegal activity he desires.
In one sense, the pardon power pertains to any “offense” against the United States, and therefore would seem to cover anything that might happen in a federal court that brings punishment. Show up late to court and get slapped with contempt? Tell the judge to screw herself in the ear? Deliberately urinate on the floor? All of it can be construed as an “offense” against the United States’ federal government. But, as Prof. Redish notes, these aren’t things that bring people into court in the first place. They can be done as easily by the lawyers or the plaintiff as they can be done by the defendants. The court has the power to impose order and rules on its courtroom and on the procedure with which the trial will proceed. They can demand that jurors don’t talk to each other or that lawyers don’t talk to the press. They can demand that defendants not engage in certain behaviors or that police not enforce certain crimes while the issues at hand are adjudicated. These are more process issues than matters of guilt or innocence.
If we let the president pardon people for these types of things, we let the president interfere in the administration of justice, and there is at least an argument to be made that this was not the intent of the pardon power in the Constitution.
Arpaio’s case is a little more complex than this. It has recently been established that people who are accused of criminal contempt of court, as Arpaio was, can get a jury trial if the penalty is potentially more severe than six months. The idea is that anything less than six months is for “petty crimes” but a longer sentence shouldn’t be imposed without the defendant getting an actual trial with all the rights attendant to that. This is an effort to strike a balance between letting judges impose order and not letting judges mete out long, harsh punishments without the oversight and approval of a jury. Arpaio was only facing six months in prison, so by precedent he did not deserve a jury trial and he lost his appeals in his effort to get one.
But it could be argued that since at least some criminal contempt cases are treated as actual trials instead of mere matters of court administration that the whole category qualifies as an offense against the United States.
My point here is that this stuff could be litigated to explore where the lines might be drawn limiting the presidential pardon power. The Courts will not want to grant the president the power to contravene their court orders. It’s obviously recognized that the president can nullify the sentence imposed after a trial or even to preemptively pardon a crime that hasn’t even come to trial (as President Ford did in the case of Richard Nixon). And that can be interpreted to allow anything, no matter how abusive and corrosive to the administration of justice. But it’s also possible that the Courts could argue that offenses against the Court are not synonymous with offenses against the United States. An offense against the United States could be defined as an original charge brought by a prosecutor rather than a charge arising out of a trial. Perhaps the same distinction used to determine eligibility for jury trials in criminal contempt cases could be carried forward for presidential pardons.
If so, the only limitation on the pardon power would be for cases of contempt that carry a penalty of six months or less, but it would protect the integrity of the court system and prevent the president from orchestrating a systematic scheme to ignore and abuse people’s civil rights.
Likewise, we may soon have to litigate if there are any remedies short of impeachment for a president who pardons witnesses for the purpose of obstructing an investigation against himself, or whether a president can pardon themselves for crimes they have committed.
The Courts are an independent branch of the federal government and they have the ability to fight back against a rogue president. The pardon power provided in the Constitution is explained in incredibly succinct language: “he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”
The only wiggle room in there seems to be over how we define “offenses.” We’ve never had to decide exactly what that means before, but I think now we do.
Beyond the semantics, there’s also common sense. Is it plausible that the authors of the Constitution intended to give the president the authority to commit crimes with impunity, to obstruct investigations into his own conduct with his power to grant preemptive pardons? We know that they provided impeachment as a remedy for these types of behaviors, but it would to make sense to draw some lines around how much mischief a president can create.
One thing seems absolutely clear to me. Even under the broadest possible interpretation of the presidential pardon power, a clear abuse of the privilege is possible and since the only remedy (in this interpretation) is impeachment, the abuse would have to be grounds for impeachment.
One thing that almost all Americans agree on is that exploiting a natural disaster by price gouging is at the bottom of the barrel of scummy. We’ve become accustomed to WH Friday news dumps that get the least amount of public attention. But announcing a highly controversial decision on a Friday in the middle of an impending major hurricane that will dominate the news for several days is a new low.
I saw this neat little trick that might let the president pardon himself. Declare himself unable to perform his duties and when Pence takes over temporarily, he pardons Trump.
There’s a precedent for that. A shame that the original public outrage has been whitewashed over the decades by elites from both major political parties.
“Is it plausible that the authors of the Constitution intended to give the president the authority to commit crimes with impunity, to obstruct investigations into his own conduct with his power to grant preemptive pardons?”
If that were the case the Founders intent would have been to have the President be more like a King, and its been documented in many ways that was definitely not the intent.
Whether it was intended or not the reality is the President has felt free to violate statutes and commit crimes with impunity and otherwise abuse the office, this pardon being but one example, and is enabled by his own party which hopes to realize political benefit by allowing it.
The protections against and remedies for these abuses are there, the problem is we don’t have leaders with the courage, integrity or commitment to use them.
You don’t want a President to have to spend his time defending himself against scurrilous or partisan proceedings when he should be fully engaged with the business of government. Arguably the Whitewater proceedings became one such abuse of prosecutorial process and became a very effective political tactic to render the President impotent or too distracted to do his job properly. So some measure of Presidential immunity is justifiable.
However here the intent appears to be different. Trump is signalling to law enforcement that just about any abuse of minorities civil rights is ok with him, and that he will protect them from Court oversight or sanction. The result could be even more widespread abuse of the civil rights of minorities by law enforcement and the advancement of a white supremacist agenda more generally.
Everything Trump does – collaborating with foreign powers to interfere in US elections, flagrant financial conflicts of interest, supporting Nazi sympathisers, encouraging violence against journalists, pardoning racist civil rights abusers – is lowering the bar for all future Presidents and moving the Overton window for what is becoming acceptable in public life. Future abusers will always have the excuse that “President Trump did it” when accused of some wrongdoing.
Much of public life is governed not so much by precisely defined laws as by a consensus of what is decent, honourable, and appropriate in public office. Trump is testing the limits of law and ripping the fabric of civil society apart. There is only one appropriate sanction for such behaviour – utter humiliation at the next election. But will the US people deliver it? You have to ask yourself – “what has America become, and will I stand by and let it happen?”
And the question is being asked not of Trump opponents or political progressives to whom such practices are abhorrent, it is being asked of those who voted for Trump in the first place. Are you still all part of the same nation?
This (very early) Trumpian abuse of the pardon power–which should also be excised from the constitution–was intended both to enthuse the MAGA white base as well as make clear to the various witnesses/targets of Mueller that there is no need for them to worry about being in the crosshairs of the Russia investigation.
Manafort, Flynn et al now know that if they keep their mouths shut, Der Trumper will rapidly pardon them for whatever charges Mueller might bring to get them talking. In an anti-democratic system like ours, it is clearly meaningless if some national polls indicate that a majority “disapprove” of some Trumpian gambit or another.
Der Trumper is now effectively above the law.
I spent a little time researching this.
I was sort of curious if there was case law on contempt. The following from the Notre Dame Law Review is a good summary (note, this is from 1929)
http://scholarship.law.nd.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4418&context=ndlr
Obiter for the non-lawyer, or Obiter Dicta more commonly, means language addressing an issue not required for resolution of the case. As a result, the language is not binding precedent, though it is persuasive.
Really the case to read is Ex Parte Garland. There the Supreme Court held:
That is very broad language. The “every offence” language makes it hard to see a case where it WOULDN’T apply. I was surprised but I can’t see much of an argument that the Arpaio exceeds Trump’s authority.
See 71 US at 380.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/71/333/case.html
I can see no way this could form the basis for an impeachment argument.
The impeachment argument is for abuse of the pardon power (which this very clearly is), not for issuing illegal or unconstitutional pardons. The founders, Madison in particular, were very clear that impeachment is the ultimate limit on the pardon power.
If something is legal it is not abuse of power by definition.
The argument is nonsensical.
It’s hard to believe you even wrote something that stupid.
You know you talk a lot about how liberals aren’t up to the task of dealing with the current threats around us with their trimming of the edges, and I’d agree with that, but that comment right there shows exactly why: obsessed with legalities and technical jargon that won’t hold if the system is truly tested. Below marduk described what can only be described as an abuse of power, one possible end game for this — one I think is at least potentially could happen — and it would all be “legal”.
Multiple Supreme Courts and the people who actually wrote the Constitution have said otherwise several times.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Disgusting: Maggie Haberman NYT
An MSM journalist feeding right into the FakeNews meme and in this instance giving Trump cover! What a poor excuse for a Trump critic.
Made worse by the fact that Haberman was responding to Bernie Sanders’ tweet
As other are noting – GG:
Avi Asher-Shapiro
As a propagandist, Haberman is middling. As a journalist she sucks.
More:
Erika Andiola tweet in response to Haberman tweet:
The question I have is whether Trump can pardon a corporation. Assuming he cannot, then the alternate route is to go after Trump’s many corps for money-laundering, bribery, corruption, etc… Declare them criminal conspiracies, which is what they are. Basically prosecute Trump’s corporate cut-outs as proxies for Trump himself. The Trump logo itself is a crime family advertisement, a ‘gang symbol.’
Trump may be impeached, but he isn’t going to do time. The next best alternative may be to bankrupt him.
Additional question: can Trump stop extradition? I’m pretty sure Ukraine has a beef with Manafort and probably Flynn. Would they rather do time in a Ukrainian prison, or testify against Trump and take a largely-suspended sentence with six months in Club Fed?
I don’t think we should focus on the process that took place since there are times where a pardon under similar circumstances would be defensible for another person. Progressives can’t start allowing themselves to make the reactionaries’ arguments for them regarding the pardon power if we ever hope to actually change the carceral state — although this pardon definitely can be added to the list of impeachable offenses, strictly on the merits!
The problem with Joe Arpaio’s pardon isn’t the process. The problem is Joe Arpaio.
This analogy breaks down because in the current case the pardon acts to violate the constitutional rights of the people affected, and in the hypothetical the pardon would act to safeguard the constitutional rights of the people.
Not seeing how that changes or affects the pardon’s constitutionality, unless we are simply deciding whether one pardon is good and one is bad — which relies on the merits not the process.
You could make an argument that the pardon serves to strip Arpaio’s victims of their constitutional rights. Consider this hypothetical:
This is extremely similar to what Trump has actually done in Arpaio’s case and it leaves many thousands of people with their constitutional rights bypassed without consequence for the violator or possibility of redress. He is setting his constitutional prerogative directly against the constitutional prerogatives of the citizenry. If this were challenged and upheld it would mean that constitutionally protected rights exist solely at the discretion of the President.
Now, whether or not that argument carries water as a matter of constitutional law, well, I’m not a constitutional lawyer. But it’s clearly an extraordinarily toxic use of the pardon power and it’s yet another thing Trump’s done that should result in impeachment.
yeah I’m not a constitutional lawyer either, but that is exactly where I expect Trump to head in the future if his cancerous presidency is allowed to be carried for the full four year term. But just a cursory review says all of that would be legal. I mean, this is what fascists do. The only remedy is for Congress to do their fucking job.
This man is a disgrace. I’ve tried to keep politics out of my social media feed as much as possible, but this is inexcusable. This veteran says sit down and shut the fuck up, you know-nothing, never-served piece of shit. #itmfa #wtf
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I just happened upon an article making the same point I made above, here.
I think there’s potentially more involved here than a cursory review would suggest.
Maybe, maybe not. I think it’s worthless to focus on process because no one gives a shit, and we are likely to lose. Spell out what this fascist did, spell out what Trump pardoned. Focus on the merits. That’s how we win this issue. I just don’t see winning on process, and I want mass pardons (yes different than Sheriff Joe).
Sadly Ex Parte Grossman 267 U.S. 87 (1925) explicitly puts the kibosh on this ideal. It explicitly lays out that contempt of court is an offense against the US.
My lower post has a link to the actual court case on Justia.
The Judiciary is one of the three branches of government, and part of its role is oversight on the other two….oversight on the Executive being key.
Trump is showing disdain for this. If appealed it would be interesting how the republicans on the SC see this. My bet is they let Trump cut their balls off. But when a Democrat follows Trumps precedent, they shout during the State of the Union, and rule against it.
They are, after all….hacks.
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Could there still be a trial in absentia. After the pardon, it’s a given the defendant will not testify but cannot all the evidence and other testimony be presented to jury. Why not?
He said he was going to pardon Joe Arpaio, and he actually did it. Now, given that he lies incessantly about absolutely everything, would he have told the truth about that if he’d been in his right mind?
It seems that when American officials do the wrong thing, they can do it in a New York minute. But, to do the right thing, e.g., impeach the President, investigations, etc., it takes forever. I will probably be dead before Donald Trump pays for his crimes. What a country.
Ouch. Just learned this is apparently already a ‘settled’ area of law.
Feast your eyes on this Bullshit:
Ex Parte Grossman
267 U.S. 87 (1925)
While this decision is clearly relevant, unlike the Arpaio pardon in Grossman there were no competing third party constitutional rights that were being protected by the court order.
It’s obvious that it would be an uphill battle but the facts are different enough and the principles important enough that I’d like to see the courts bring a challenge.
I’d like to see a check on the power of the pardon in this fashion myself.
I just don’t think it can be done the way the Constitution is currently written. Ex Parte Grossman, is very specific. Offenses against the court via non-compliance with a court order, ‘contempt of court,’ are offenses against the US because you can’t split the Judicial Branch of the US government from the US government.
And I just don’t think you ever get a court to split that hair. And frankly, I’m not sure I’d want to have a court that would split that hair.
I think this kind of thing needs to be fought. But there are limits to fighting things via the Judiciary. I think this is just one of those limits.
Cass Sunstein weighs in and goes back to Madison for some help https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-08/the-plain-answer-to-the-trump-pardon-question
Glad you’re still writing, Boo. This kind of analysis is the primary reason I come to this site.