When I was a kid, my parents watched the television program Lou Grant and sometimes they let me stay up and watch it, too. My favorite character on the show was Joe Rossi who was played by Robert Walden. There was something about Rossi that appealed to me, and I developed a fondness for the actor who portrayed him. Later on, when I was probably in my early teens, I watched the movie All the President’s Men about the Watergate scandal and President Nixon’s downfall. I took a special interest in the character of Donald Segretti specifically because he was played by Robert Walden. Even to this day, I can picture his scenes with Dustin Hoffman (Carl Bernstein) in vivid detail, with his sweater and his coffee and his beautiful balcony view.
I actually felt some sympathy for Segretti, despite the “nickel and dime” ratf*cking he did for the Nixon campaign. That was partly the intent of the screenwriters but also a result of my inability to fully disassociate the role of Segretti from the role of Joe Rossi on Lou Grant. It was only later that I came to despise everything Segretti and his University of Southern California “Trojan mafia” stood for.
And what they stood for was dirty campaign tactics. Segretti, along with other USC undergrads that went on to serve Nixon like Press Secretary Ron Zeigler and chief of staff Bob Haldeman’s hatchet man Dwight Chapin, cut his teeth running student government campaigns. In the movie, Segretti claims that what they did for Nixon was tame compared to what they did in college.
One thing Segretti did for Nixon was to steal Democratic presidential candidate Edmund Muskie’s letterhead and forge documents stating that Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson had an illegitimate child with a 17-year-old and that Senator Hubert H. Humphrey had engaged in sexual misconduct. You can recognize his tactics in some of the things you see Roger Stone and James O’Keefe engaged in today. More ominously, you can see a replay of the Trojan mafia’s efforts to achieve a conservative takeover of student government in Jane Mayer’s recent piece in The New Yorker where she details the activities of the conservative “charity” Turning Point USA.
There definitely was a nickel and dime feel to the dirty tricks Segretti pulled during the 1972 campaign when you compare them to the far more serious actions of the Plumbers with their break-ins and telephone bugging, or the actions of high-level players like White House counsel John Dean, Attorney General John Mitchell, and senior advisor Charles ‘Tex’ Colson. In retrospect, Segretti played a big part in the narrative not because what he did was so egregious but because it was discovered early on and was indefensible. In the end, he was disbarred for a time and sentenced to six months in prison. He only served four.
I’ve never seen it explained exactly how Segretti obtained the letterhead of Ed Muskie, but I doubt he stole it himself. Instead, he encouraged someone else to steal Muskie’s property and then used it for his own purposes. And this isn’t really any different from how the Trump campaign encouraged the Russians and WikiLeaks to illegally obtain emails that were wiped from Hillary Clinton’s private server. I always thought it was strange that people in Trump’s orbit, and Trump himself, seemed so convinced that the 33,000 erased emails were either already hacked or were at least obtainable.
On July 2nd, 2016, Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas suggested that the Russians should be asked to obtain the 33,000 emails. On July 27th, Trump followed Cotton’s advice and made a direct appeal to the Russians for the 33,000 emails. This past May, GOP operative Peter W. Smith committed suicide not long after the Wall Street Journal questioned him about his efforts to obtain the 33,000 emails from the Russians.
The Journal stories said that on Labor Day weekend last year Smith assembled a team to acquire emails the team theorized might have been stolen from the private server Clinton had used while secretary of state. Smith’s focus was the more than 30,000 emails Clinton said she deleted because they related to personal matters. A huge cache of other Clinton emails were made public.
Smith told the Journal he believed the missing emails might have been obtained by Russian hackers. He also said he thought the correspondence related to Clinton’s official duties. He told the Journal he worked independently and was not part of the Trump campaign.
Smith let it be known that he was working in tandem with Michael Flynn and his son, Michael Junior.
I couldn’t understand why there was this widespread belief that the 33,000 emails were not only other than what Hillary Clinton had claimed (non work-related, private correspondence), but that they were already in the Russians’ possession or easily obtainable to them. There is, after all, no indication that Clinton’s server was ever compromised.
New revelations about George Papadopoulos may solve the mystery:
During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.
About three weeks earlier [April 26, 2016], Mr. Papadopoulos had been told that Moscow had thousands of emails that would embarrass Mrs. Clinton, apparently stolen in an effort to try to damage her campaign.
Let’s look at an article that Judge Andrew P. Napolitano wrote for Fox News on May 12th, 2016. This is a period of time in between April 26th, when Papadopoulos was told about stolen emails, and the incident three weeks later in the Kensington Wine Rooms where an inebriated Papadopoulos blabbed about the theft to the Australian ambassador. See if you can figure out why I’m citing this piece.
While all of this has been going on, intelligence community sources have reported about a below the radar screen, yet largely known debate in the Kremlin between the Russian Foreign Ministry and the Russian Intelligence Services. They are trying to come to a meeting of the minds to determine whether the Russian government should release some 20,000 of Mrs. Clinton’s emails that it obtained either by hacking her directly or by hacking into the email of her confidante, Sid Blumenthal.
As if all this wasn’t enough bad news for Mrs. Clinton in one week, the FBI learned last week from the convicted international hacker, who calls himself Guccifer, that he knows how the Russians came to possess Mrs. Clinton’s emails; and it is because she stored, received and sent them from her personal, secret, non-secure server.
Here you can see all the elements in precisely the right historical window. Papadopoulos was in contact with the Russian foreign ministry as part of his effort to broker a meeting between Trump and Putin. His Kremlin handler, Prof. Joseph Mifsud, served as both the go-between with the foreign ministry and the source of the leak on the stolen emails. There was as yet no suggestion that the hacked material came from the Democratic National Committee’s servers. The presumption was that they came from Clinton’s private server. The Russians appeared to be dangling this information to see what Trump’s team would do to win their release. They also re-introduced Guccifer as someone with inside knowledge of the hacks. A month later, on July 15th, Guccifer 2.0 will make an appearance and try to take responsibility for the DNC hacks.
Someone gave Napolitano this information and it came out garbled partly because it was disinformation and partly because Napolitano didn’t have a full picture of what was going on. But it became an article of faith that the 33,000 missing Clinton emails were out there somewhere and that they could sink Clinton’s campaign if they ever came to light.
This may also explain why Donald Trump Jr. agreed to take a June 9th meeting at Trump Tower with Russian intelligence assets who were promising dirt on Clinton. He might have been promised the missing emails or he may have just had that expectation because he lives in the same fever swamps of rightwing media as folks like Napolitano. Most likely, though, news of the pilfered emails had filtered up to the top by then from Papadopolous. In fact, either directly or indirectly, Papadopoulos must have been the source for Napolitano’s article.
One part of the puzzle I think is solved. The Trump folks knew the Russians had emails but they didn’t initially know that the source was the DNC and they wrongly assumed that they were from Clinton’s private server. Nonetheless, they eagerly sought to convince the Russians to deliver the damaging information, and that desire explains a lot of their behavior at the time.
Somehow, even after the DNC (and other) leaks started coming out, the belief that the 33,000 emails were out there somewhere never died. That’s why Michael Flynn and Peter W. Smith were still looking for them around Labor Day.
If I’m right about this, it is admittedly an awkward kind of collusion. But even if it involves a bunch of poorly or partly informed amateurs and an odd mix of campaign hangers-on and high officials, it is a determined effort to truck with stolen material. It absolutely dwarfs anything that Segretti did unless you think stealing official stationary and forging letters is the equivalent of encouraging a foreign adversary to break into the former Secretary of State’s server and steal official U.S. government documents.
Segretti did four months in jail. He probably got off easy. He got his law license back after two years, and by 2000 he was serving as co-chair of John McCain‘s presidential campaign in Orange County.
If the people who colluded and negotiated with the Russians for Clinton’s emails aren’t treated more severely, they too will make a comeback and haunt us in future elections.
There is something rather odd about the Watergate burglars that should be mentioned: — To this day it is still not publicly known what they were looking for, and there is no evidence that Nixon actually ordered the break-in.
https://www.vox.com/2014/8/7/5970967/what-was-watergate-scandal-nixon
Well:
Was there a difference in Nixon’s mind between Brookings and the DNC? Did he want dirt on Democrats or did he fear that Democrats wanted dirt on him? Or both? Does it matter? None ever talked. Did any of them ever know? The tape recordings don’t reveal if those closest to him knew (presumably revealed to them earlier and away from any recording instruments) or were playing along. (The most loyal and most likely to have been confided in was John Mitchell who also was head of CRP and he revealed nothing. As the top dog, he set the agenda or vision and left the implementation of his desires up to underlings.
○ Nixon Library
TRANSCRIPT OF A RECORDING OF A MEETING AMONG THE PRESIDENT, JOHN DEAN, AND H.R. HALDEMAN IN THE OVAL OFFICE, ON MARCH 21, 1973, FROM 10:12 TO 11:55 AM
PRESIDENT: What’s that, on Ellsberg?
DEAN: Ellsberg, and apparently some other things. I don’t know the full extent of it. Uh-
PRESIDENT: I don’t know about anything else.
DEAN: I don’t know either, and I (laughs) hate to learn some of these things. So that’s, that ‘s that situation. Now, we’re at the soft points. How many people know about this? Hell, uh, well, let me go one step further in this, this whole thing. The Cubans that were used in the Watergate were also the same Cubans that Hunt and Liddy used for this California Ellsberg thing, for the break-in out there.
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DEAN: I knew what it was. So I called Liddy, uh, on that Monday morning, and I said, “Gordon” – I said, “first, I want to know if anybodyin the White House was involved in this.” And he said, “No.” And they weren’t. I said, “Well, I want to know how in God’s name-this happened.” And he said, “Well, I was pushed without mercy by Magruder to get in there, get more information–that the information, it was not satisfactory. Magruder said, ‘The White House is not happy with what we’re getting.”‘
PRESIDENT: The White House?
DEAN: The White House. Yeah, Uh-
PRESIDENT: Who do you think was pushing him?
DEAN: Well, I think it was probably Strachan thinking that Bob wanted things,(cough) and because because I have seen that happen on other occasions where things have been said to be Of very prime importance when they really weren’t.
PRESIDENT: Why (unintelligible) I wonder? I’m just try-ing to think as to why then. We’d just finished the Moscow trip. I mean, we were-
DEAN: That’s right.
PRESIDENT: The Democrats had just nominated Mc G-, Mc Govern. I mean, for Christ’s sakes, I mean, what the hell were we–I mean, I can see doing it earlier but I mean, now let me say, I can see the pressure, but I don’t see why all the pressure would have been one then.
DEAN: I don’t know, other than the fact that, uh, they might have been looking for information about
PRESIDENT: The convention.
DEAN: …the conventions.
PRESIDENT: Well, that’s right.
DEAN: Because, I understand, also after the fact, that there was a plan to bug Larry O’Brien’s suite down in Florida.
PRESIDENT: Yeah.
DEAN: Uh, so, uh, Liddy told me, that uh, you know, this is what had happened and, and this is why it had happened.
PRESIDENT: Liddy told you he was planning–where’d you learn there was such a plan–from whom?
DEAN: Beg your pardon.
PRESIDENT: Where did you learn of the plans to bug Larry O’Brien’s suite?
DEAN: From Magruder, after the, long after the fact.
PRESIDENT: Oh, Magruder, he knows.
DEAN: Yeah. Magruder is totally knowledgeable on the whole thing.
PRESIDENT: Yeah.
What’s great about that conversation is that both of them are playing dumb.
Since, to this day, it seems the Rep conspiracy trafficers cannot grasp the difference between the Podesta email hacks and the DNC hacks, it would make sense that the Judge would misconnect the dots. George P is turning out to be a fascinating character in this story and your premise does make sense so it would be nice if it is right so we can carry that information forward.
I’m not convinced that we didn’t have an anti HRC cabal within the FBI, evidenced by Rudy’s constant inside scoops and jawdropping accusations.
Where Deep Throat warned Woodward that Watergate went far deeper than he could imagine, into the FBI and even CIA I’m not certain that we won’t someday find a similar element this go round.
Of course there was an “anti HRC (sic) cabal.” The FBI was the cabal.
The FBI has always been a deeply conservative, Republican organization. This is why the accusations of pro-Hillary sentiments are hysterical. Strzok probably wrote to that lawyer because she was the only person connected to the FBI who he could talk to about this.
You don’t realize this?
Oy vey. And Margaret Pynchon (Nancy Marchand) on Lou Grant was Katherine Graham-ish as imagined by some.
Dwight Chapin (hired by H. R. Haldeman in ’62, on the ’67-68 Nixon campaign, a Nixon appointee under Haldeman from ’69 on) hired his former USC classmate Segretti (paid by CRP with laundered funds) and managed Segretti and the dirty tricks team for the ’72 election. Segretti was also a ’66 UC-Berkeley School of Law graduate and former US Treasury attorney and when hired by Chapin “captain in the Judge Advocate General Corps at Fort Ord.” (In 2008 he was co-chair for Orange County, CA, McCain campaign.) A smart (Boalt Hall), likely from money (San Marino and USC), and educated weasel (ballot box stuffing in a USC student body election) well known to long vetted known members of Nixon’s inner circle. Hired specifically to “rat fuck” Democratic candidates.
Papadopoulus was a walk-on — waving his two month stint as a foreign policy advisor to the even less professional Carson campaign (shocking that a less professional/experienced campaign than Trump’s could exist in ’16). (Trump needed those Carson fundie voters, …) As Papadopoulus is a convicted liar and in a bar (likely drunk) boasted that someone he knew told him that someone he knew in Russia had dirt on Hillary. His Russian VIP contacts were either a figment of his imagination or that of the character passing himself off as “connected.” What did he come up with? Nada. (Not even good enough to produce salacious stories about Clinton from paid Russians — then again, he didn’t have a walking around budget or even a salary.)
Searching for Clinton’s deleted emails seems to have captivated the same types (and some of the same people) that were on the hunt for Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate. (“Pizzagate” is in similar territory.) Totally irrational in both instances and anyone claiming to have had either is/was either another nutter or someone engaged in a financial or political scam.
I agree, Marie, that there’s a huge difference in the competency of the players (major and minor), but I think the heart of the matter is the overall mendacity of those involved. Nixon and his goons were “bad hombres” who would have been happy to take down our government. Trump and his fellow imbeciles are similarly lacking in ethics. Not only would they be pleased to blow up our country, engineering a coup in the process, but they see nothing wrong in working closely with truly evil people like Putin and his minions.
I’m curious, do you still have the stolen Podesta and DNC emails on your hard drive, or did you delete them? Do you still rummage through them when you need anti-Clinton ammunition, or do you just do it these days for personal enjoyment?
Also, I see Trump did a `lock her up’ Twitter today against Huma Abedin. Certainly Glenn Greenwald has joined in by now. Isn’t that your hint for another Clinton aide hit piece? It’s got everything you and Trump and Greenwald love, a connection to Clinton, it’s about a powerful and successful woman (bonus.with an `exotic’ name!) and she’s a democrat. It’s in your wheel house. Maybe go through the stolen emails and look something up?
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Hey, BooMan: as an ancillary historical point you may not be aware of, in real life the Segretti interviews were conducted by a Los Angeles-based Washington Post stringer reporter. Having Bernstein do it personally was a (totally acceptable) cinematic conceit.
BooMan, I share your great affection for Robert Walden’s acting, and your concern about our future.
Here’s the kicker in this post…one of them, at best:
Wait a minute here!!! Let’s back this up a bit, please:
If this “debate” among the Russian actors is both “…below the radar screen…” (P.S. Whose fucking “radar screen!!!???), and “…yet largely known…” (Again…largely known by whom, exactly?) “…”in the Kremlin between the Russian Foreign Ministry and the Russian Intelligence Services…”
Then who are the “knowers” and who are the “surveilled!!!???”
Inquiring minds…as rare as they may be on this blog…want to know.
So far?
Just unfocused bullshit.
The worst kind, of course.
It spreads its stench everywhere!!!
AG
And now for this word from the Department of Missing the Point.
Define that statement, please. Give me “the point” that I missed.
I wish that Mueller would.
And soon!!!
AG
Great summary Booman. I hope everyone covering the Russia investigation reads it because too many reporters have been writing confusing stories about “the missing emails” for the last 18 months.
“I couldn’t understand why there was this widespread belief that the 33,000 emails were not only other….”
That may be the stupidest thing I’ve read in weeks.
Since you are apparently new to the game, let me explain it. Republicans find (or simply invent) an excuse to throw rocks. They don’t care if there is anything credible behind even one word of it. They keep saying xxxxxxx a million times until it becomes real to most people. Trump has said it a hundred times and still does to this day.
It is called propaganda – you should look it up!
Reading… How does it work?