There’s a long piece in The Atlantic by Russell Berman on Rep. Jerrold Nadler and how he feels about impeachment. I recommend you read it for several reasons, including that it’s very informative and quite likely predictive of what will happen if the Democrats take control of the House of Representatives in January. If the Democrats are running the House, it’s highly probable that Rep. Nadler will become the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and that’s the committee that would consider issuing articles of impeachment for the whole House to consider. Therefore, Nadler will have more say in what happens or does not happen than anyone outside of the leadership.
Hopefully, you’ll be comforted to know that Nadler is not prejudging the case. He’s not making any promises. Even if there are clearly impeachable offenses, he’s not committed to pursuing impeachment:
Nadler would not rule out an impeachment move even if a conviction in the Senate was unlikely. But, he said, it could not be a completely partisan effort; to move forward, Democrats should be confident that by the end of the process, they could convince at least some of the president’s supporters that impeachment was necessary. Without that support, Nadler told me, the effort would backfire. “You don’t want a situation where for the next 20 or 30 years, half the country is saying, ‘We won the election, you stole it,’” Nadler said. “You don’t want to tear the country apart.”
There’s a logical flaw in that response, but it doesn’t make it less appropriate as an answer. In order for the Democrats to be accused of stealing the election, Trump would need to be convicted by the Senate, and in that case it’s clear that many Republicans would have been convinced by the end of the process. The real point is that it could do more damage to the country to impeach the president and then have him acquitted than it would to let things go until the 2020 election. Of course, we could still assign more blame to the Republicans for acquitting than the Democrats for indicting, but we don’t want Congress setting the precedent that what Trump has done is not impeachable. And that’s puts Nadler in a possible quandary where he could create that precedent by not pursuing impeachment because he doubts the Republicans would back him up.
His first responsibility, then, is not to make himself a lightning rod. He will need to be seen, as far as humanly possible, as a fair judge of the facts and not someone pursuing a vendetta or a purely partisan cause.
In fairness, Nadler is being consistent. He was on the Judiciary Committee in 1998 when they voted out articles of impeachment against Bill Clinton, and at the time he characterized the effort as an attempted coup d’état.
As Nadler saw it, committing perjury to cover up a consensual sexual affair might have been a federal crime, but it did not rise to the level of an impeachable offense, which the Constitution defines as “treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” “The Framers of the Constitution didn’t think Congress should be in the position of punishing crimes,” he said at the time, at an anti-impeachment rally in New York. “Impeachment was seen as the defense of the republic and of liberty against a president or other high official who would abuse the powers of his office to make himself a tyrant, to undermine the other branches of government, or to undermine constitutional liberty.”
Clinton’s alleged crime—lying about sex—didn’t come close to meeting that standard, Nadler said. “When the president would misuse his power to become a tyrant, to subvert constitutional liberties, that’s when a president ought to be impeached,” he said at another rally, in front of the Capitol. “But not for this.”
Nadler correctly points out that there are some crimes that are not impeachable and some acts that are technically legal but would justify impeachment. Of the latter, abuse of the pardon power is one:
When I asked if there was a particular action Trump could take as president that Nadler would definitely call impeachable, he relayed a scene from the 1788 convention where Virginia ratified the Constitution. In discussing the unlimited presidential-pardon power, he explained, one delegate asked what would happen if a president engaged in a criminal conspiracy and then pardoned his co-conspirators. Nadler said: “And James Madison answered: ‘Well, that could never happen, because a president who did that would be instantly impeached.’
“They viewed the impeachment power as a limitation on the pardon power,” Nadler continued. “What that also means is if the president pardoned co-conspirators—if we concluded that he was in a conspiracy with various other people and the Russians to use foreign influence on the election, and in order to stop that investigation he issued pardons to his co-conspirators—well that, we are told, is impeachable.”
There are some other quasi-legal acts that will be difficult to arbitrate, like violations of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution. A Democratic Congress would probably be most responsible on that issue if they first tried to compel the president to change his business practices and arrangements to bring them into compliance before leaping to include foreign governments’ payments to his hotels and resorts among the articles of impeachment.
Nadler understands that impeachment is ultimately a political rather than a legal act, although it also fills in for the lack of any other avenue for true legal accountability. It’s also one of only two ways (the 25th amendment being the other) that the country can rid itself of a president in the middle of his term if that becomes unavoidably necessary.
It may be less what Trump has done in the past that makes this necessary than what he’s incapable of doing in the present and future. That’s what Bob Woodward is saying here: “I’ve never seen an instance when the President is so detached from the reality of what’s going on. This has not been treated seriously enough. Some of the things Trump did and does jeopardize the real national security.” Overarching any argument over the particulars of collusion or bank, wire or election fraud is the simple fact that President Trump cannot continue to serve as president because he cannot be trusted with the responsibility. In that sense, treating him like Al Capone and nailing him for the lesser crime to achieve the correct result would be justified on utilitarian grounds. But, truthfully, it’s the totality of the reality we’re facing that serves as the ultimate case against the president.
When Nadler says that impeachment is a way to come to the “defense of the republic and of liberty against a president or other high official who would abuse the powers of his office to make himself a tyrant, to undermine the other branches of government, or to undermine constitutional liberty,” he’s describing a standard that has already been met. Trump has undermined the intelligence community, the justice system, the FBI, and the courts, and he makes routine threats against the free press. He’s also undermined our system of free elections and done untold damage to our alliances and ability to project moral leadership on the world stage.
Despite all of this, Nadler insists that he has not yet seen a green light for impeachment: “I haven’t seen any information that is proof positive that he’s committed impeachable offenses. I’ve seen a lot of suggestive things.”
That might stick in your craw, but it’s the correct stance to take on pretty much every level. As a strictly political matter, the Democrats want to focus on what they can do for their constituents on issues like health care rather than what kind of fight they can pick with Donald Trump. They want to focus on what the Republican Congress is doing wrong, too, since the upcoming elections are congressional elections. As a strategy for actually having a successful impeachment process, it’s also imperative that Nadler sound as impartial as possible and even dubious on the merits. This is especially true because the hardest evidence against the president is still in the Special Counsel’s hands and Nadler shouldn’t prejudge what it contains. It’s also the right position to take on the merits. Nadler needs to lead a process but he’s not capable of leading Republican opinion. His job is to provide a platform that allows Republican lawmakers and supporters to come to the conclusion that has already been reached by many members of Trump’s inner circle. He cannot protect the country by failing to pursue impeachable offenses or by pursuing them and winding up with a Senate acquittal. Therefore, he needs to walk slowly so that others don’t fall too far behind.
Many skeptics think the Republicans in the Senate will stick with Trump no matter what. That’s not true. But they won’t turn on him unless or until they have much more cover to do so than they have now. If they see Nadler prejudging the evidence and making promises, they’ll close their ranks and lose confidence in the process. Remember, they want Trump gone too. Most of Trump’s cabinet probably is further along than the Senate. Things are moving in the direction of removal on their own, and part of Nadler’s job is simply to avoid impeding the progress.
And, of course, he needs the Democrats to win control of the House before any of this is relevant. We all need that.
The Impeachment clause looks backward, at events which have occurred. It does not seem to contemplate removal by Congress for what a manifestly unfit prez might do in future. That circumstance seems to be the province of the 25th Amendment. Presumably the Founders thought (wrongly) that the Constitution had rendered the “election” of an unqualified deranged imbecile like Der Trumper impossible.
Nadler is being appropriately judicious as he contemplates his possible role in history. But the average American has no real understanding of the structure of their byzantine government, so it’s unclear how many of them understand that our demented prez can only be countered if Dems take control of some house of Congress. Indeed, it’s questionable how many of them “know” the Repub party (and its masters in the “conservative” movement) have complete control of the current (completely failed) government.
At some point the Dem party has to come to grips with a rhetoric of how to deal with democratically illegitimate prezes, since that is what they are going to be facing time and time again from now on. There never will be such a thing as a Dem electoral college prez, the demographics are completely against it, and have been for over a century. Talking about not wanting to be seen as “stealing the election” from Der Trumper (like Bushco) is unhelpful in the long run.
Nadler is wrongheaded if he requires “some” Repub support for articles of impeachment; waiting for some members of the National Trumpalist party to desert Der Trumper based on evidence is Waiting for Godot. It means we will never have the official evidence of Trumper’s ongoing and past criminality brought before the people (and posterity), and would allow Repub senators a pass from having to go into the history books as siding with the American Monster.
Also, too, Nadler not wanting to “tear the country apart” is being concerned about water already under the bridge–and is apparently only a motivation for Dems, as we watch one white nationalist after another emerge as Repub candidates and elected officials. The house divided against itself has already fallen.
Agreed, and this sounds like justification for another turn at “let’s look forward, not back.”
I do not care if the donald is impeached or not. I want his criminal behavior exposed and those who serve criminally at his pleasure.
I’m so pleased that this is the strategy of the Dems this cycle. Very smart. Lots of discipline on stage here. Very Nancy Pelosi.
Good post, Booman; thanks.
In 1973-74, Nadler was going to night school at Fordham Law and watching Peter Rodino give the nation an advanced class in how to handle the politics of impeachment as chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.
Rodino (unlike his Republican successor, Henry Hyde, in 1998 during Clinton’s impeachment) was scrupulously fair to the minority and to the president. His first action was to compile and publish a history of impeachment in US history. He chose a Republican, John Doar, as the committee’s special counsel.
In the end, 3 of 5 impeachment resolutions passed the committee, all with bipartisan support.
I demand symbolic action. If we’ve learned anything about politics, its that the way forward is lined with glorious defeats.
The performative is the political.
Once the case is laid before the American people, the Republicans in Congress will be compelled to fold. Nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come.
In further news, I am an Adélie penguin.
“You don’t want a situation where for the next 20 or 30 years, half the country is saying, `We won the election, you stole it”
We already have an election like that and now we have a supreme court justice like that. And quite frankly I am still pretty pissed off about both.
Regarding getting the Republicans on board with possible impeachment… “I’ve never seen an instance when the President is so detached from the reality of what’s going on.”
Well Woodward needs to start paying closer attention because the Republican party as whole is not too far behind in being detached from reality.
Do they have any coherent policies that could move this country forward? Have they in the last 20 years?
All I see is: shoveling money to the rich via voodoo economics, raping our environment, kicking the poor, multiple flavors of bigotry and moral hypocrisy. Not a recipe for a thriving democracy.
I am fine with Nadler’s approach but good luck getting the current GOP to come along. This November needs to be a Tidal Wave and then, maybe, we’d have a chance to start working together again.
Nobody in the sane portion of American can afford to care what Republicans think about anything nor is it possible that they will EVER believe Trump wasn’t the victim of a Democratic Coup.
If Trump is removed from office, they will vow revenge, which will mean in their minds that the next Democrat to take office should be summarily impeached, because “they started it!”
Despite polls showing that Trump’s approval has dropped 6% in 1 month, 82% of Republicans still approve of Trump, most of them strongly. They all listen to Fox News, and as long as Fox News exists in it’s own bubble of insanity, nothing will change that.
So, no matter what Congress does about Trump they are all going to create the Myth of the Lost Cause again if Trump is forced out of office in any way whatever.
It’s a little late to start holding malefactors responsible for their acts.
When warrantless wiretapping, torture as a state policy, and egregious civil rights violations have escaped prosecution by our justice department or oversight by Congress, it sends the message that our institutions simply do not have the means, or at least the will, to punish crimes for which there are constitutional remedies.
Why would anyone expect to be held accountable for their actions now?
. . . holding the current perps accountable simply exacerbates and accelerates the trend (toward collapse) that you accurately describe.
Holding them accountable for once, otoh, arrests and could at least begin to reverse that trend. Which is urgently needed.
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In)appropriately Cautious On Impeachment!!!Impeachment, imsmeachment!!!
I’m holding out for internment!!!
Preferably chained in unlocked and unguarded Guantanamo quarters.
With a live-feed camera for the fake news media.
(Dream on, dreamedy dream…)
Later…
AG