There was a time in the 1990’s when I considered Sen. Orrin Hatch a serious legislator. I certainly didn’t agree with him on much, but at a time when the Republican Party seemed to have gone mad with a malignant form of Clinton Derangement Syndrome, Sen. Hatch appeared to be more interested in public policy than in waging partisan holy war. In 1997, he teamed up with Teddy Kennedy to enact the Children’s Health Insurance Program, a decision that drew heavy criticism from many of his colleagues.
When the time came, though, Hatch voted to remove Bill Clinton from office for both perjury and obstruction of justice, thereby defining lies told about ill-advised office trysts with an intern as a high crime. If I had been paying closer attention to politics in the 1990’s, I might never have credited Hatch with a serious or upright nature at all.
You can see how nakedly partisan he is today by his dismissal of President Trump’s campaign finance-related felonies.
Retiring Sen. Orrin Hatch defended President Donald Trump on Monday, saying he doesn’t believe he committed any crimes.
The Utah Republican told CNN’s Manu Raju that he didn’t have any concerns about allegations that Trump directed his former lawyer Michael Cohen to pay hush money to two women with whom Trump allegedly had affairs.
“No because I don’t think he was involved in crimes but even then, you know, you can make anything a crime under the current laws; if you want to you can blow it way out of proportion you can do a lot of things,” Hatch said, according to a Raja tweet.
Hatch said the Democrats would do anything to hurt the president.
When told the federal prosecutors for the Southern District of New York were making the allegations, Hatch said, “OK but I don’t care; all I can say is he’s doing a good job as president.”
Raju also tweeted that Hatch told him, “President Trump before he became president that’s another world. Since he’s become president, this economy has charged ahead. … And I think we ought to judge him on that basis other than trying to drum up things from the past that may or may not be true.”
For people too young to remember, the Democrats also brushed aside the lies their president told about his infidelity by accusing the Republicans of blowing things out of proportion and looking for anything they could find to hurt Bill Clinton. The Democrats also pointed to the strong economy and insisted that Clinton was doing an otherwise good job. Those arguments did not hold any water with Orrin Hatch at the time.
But it’s not the predictable double standard and hypocrisy that is most bothersome here. What’s really troubling is how Hatch has transformed himself into a huge defender of Donald Trump at a time when it makes little moral or political sense for him.
He didn’t initially support Trump’s presidential bid. He originally backed Jeb Bush and then shifted his support to Marco Rubio. When the Access Hollywood tape came out, Hatch was blistering in his criticism, even if he refused to rescind his endorsement. Like many Mormons, Hatch has been a critic of Trump’s immigration policies and anti-Muslim bias. Yet, since Trump has come into office, Hatch has been one of his strongest and most vocal supporters.
The most curious aspect of this is that there is no clear self-interested motive. On Wednesday, Hatch will deliver his farewell address in the Senate. He is retiring as the longest-serving Republican senator in the nation’s history. He was sworn in on January 3, 1977, while Gerald Ford was still in the Oval Office.
Hatch doesn’t have to face the electorate again, so he’s not pandering to Trump’s base for that reason. He’s not going to be needing the president’s support for any legislation, so that can’t be it. The people of Utah strongly support the Republican Party, but they don’t really like Donald Trump very much, so it’s doubtful that Hatch is worried about how his friends back home will treat him. Hatch clearly isn’t sucking up to Trump for posterity’s sake, since he can foresee that Trump’s presidency is entering choppy waters and probably won’t end well. In any case, the literate class that writes history could not possibly despise Trump more, so betting on getting credit for sticking with this president cannot reasonably be a motive for Hatch. In general, Hatch is an establishment man, and Trump is an antiestablishment president.
There are many Republican senators who refrain from defending this president, and they certainly don’t say things like “this [could be] the greatest presidency that we’ve seen, not only in generations, but maybe ever,” as Hatch did after Trump’s unpopular tax cut was signed into law.
So, I don’t know why Hatch is still defending Trump but I do know that it ultimately doesn’t matter. His replacement, Mitt Romney, is far more likely to vote to convict the president in an impeachment trial. In fact, he’s already written the speech.
Of course, Romney subsequently applied for a job in Trump’s administration and has tempered his criticism in order to assure that he could win Hatch’s seat in the Senate. But we know where he stands from that speech he delivered on March 3, 2016.
Romney used the address, a targeted critique of Donald Trump, to declare that the candidate’s promises were “worthless”, describe him as a “fraud”, and claim that “he’s playing the American public for suckers: he gets a free ride to the White House and all we get is a lousy hat.”
I don’t actually see Romney as an improvement on Hatch, as I consider Romney the single most dishonest presidential candidate (until Trump) in the history of our country. But I do not anticipate that Romney will enter the Senate intent on protecting Trump’s hide. He thinks Trump is a “worthless fraud” with no morals who just demonstrated in the midterms that he is an albatross for the Republican Party.
So, Hatch can say his goodbyes on Wednesday and defend Trump on television if he wants to. We don’t really need to care what he thinks or says anymore. He can sit at home and polish his Presidential Medal of Freedom, because that’s the only award that a harsh posterity won’t take away.
Trying to figure out why a giant, gaping, sucking, lying POS hypocritical spooge scum like Hatch wishes to deify Trump at this point is a fool’s errand (no offense intended for your well written post). Hatch is a worthless, gormless, scum sucking POS liar. Maybe Trump’s promised him some sort of “deal” or another, which is why Hatch is so determined to praise him. Who knows? Who cares? This is truly Exhibit A of today’s Republican Party – bereft of anything approaching good values (family or otherwise), morals, scruples, conscience or a desire to truly serve the nation and it’s populace. Of course, today’s GOP is very little different from the GOP over the course of my lifetime. Racist, bigoted, sexist, homophobic, Nazi bastards one and all.
But I do have to disagree that somehow Mittens will be “better” and will somehow step up to the plate to do the “right” thing vis Trump if and when the time comes.
Please do recall Mittens sucking up to Trump shortly after he was “elected” to become his Secretary of State. Mittens standing tall and defying Trump??? Nah guh happen. Mittens folded like the cheap deck chair he is quite some time ago. I doubt anything has changed.
Would love to be wrong.
Won’t hold my breath.
. . . to Trump) wanted something for himself.
What enticement would Trump have to offer Mittens as Senator sitting in judgment over Trump’s impeachment trial (or, following the Nixon model, Banana Republicans, likely including Mittens, conveying to Trump that if he didn’t resign, he would be convicted)?
These types of diaries always mystify me.
He supports Trump because he agrees with Trump. He says `it’s not a crime’ because he believes…..it’s not a crime. Just because a person wears a `protect the children’ badge on their lapel does not mean they want to actually `protect the children’. It means they want others to think they want to `protect the children’. That’s two different things.
As far as Romney…….he is /was a Bishop in the Mormons (did you know they can no longer call themselves Mormons? They cannot). Please do some research on what that job involved. It certainly was NOT to `protect the children’.
Romney will never vote to convict.
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I am almost as baffled by the widespread insistence people have that the Senate will never convict as I am by the motive people have for saying it. Even if it were true, it would make no sense to give the GOP that out.
The correct position is that the Senate must weigh the evidence when it comes and act accordingly. Predicting that they won’t only gives the Democrats a reason not to pursue justice.
And I can see how someone of influence or in a Democratic leadership position need to take that position, and assume someone like Romney will listen to the evidence, and then using his moral and ethical core, vote his conscience.
But I am just a moke on the Internet, and can freely discuss what I think will happen without the political considerations.
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Yes, we don’t want the Democrats to prematurely throw in the towel due to an assumption that the Senate won’t act.
But when I hear “weigh the evidence when it comes and act accordingly”, I think of Brent Kavanaugh. I hope I’m wrong.
Stop and consider the apple and the orange here.
The Apple: a conservative majority on the Supreme Court for a generation that will be imperiled if the Democrats retake the Senate in the midterm elections.
The Orange: a man purporting to be president who just inspired the largest net popular vote midterm drubbing in our nation’s history.
Pure self interest? Now yer talkin.
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Sadly, I am not sure that “the Democrats”…the most powerful ones, at the very least…really want to pursue justice. Not in the old-fashioned “blindfolded” justice sort of way. They want partisan justice…you know, the kind of justice that convicts enemies but not allies.
This is of course perfectly understandable. We are talking partisan politics here, not even-handed justice.
But…I must ask:
Why on earth would the Democrats not go after an obviously criminal…and dangerously incompetent if not insane…president with all due power and diligence? Certainly their “base” is united in this aim, and so apparently are most of the media and whatever 1/7th of the deep state iceberg that pokes up in public sight.
Why not!!!???
Why give Trump two more years in power to finish up his job of completely disabling the government?
Why take the chance that his tweetheaded brain might try to force a serious war against a serious foe?
Why give him the chance to even further disable the environment?
I can only come up with one answer, and it isn’t some pie-in-the-sky, backroom-hatched talking point about the “risk” of failing.
The real risk?
For the big-time Dems?
For the Deep State/Corporate State that owns them?
It is that justice will become even-handed.
Real justice can be a dangerous thing.
Why…the plebes might even begin asking questions about Democratic finances and tactics!!!
And heaven forfend…as they sit helplessly in their debt-ridden homes, lives and infrastructurally crippled transportation and environmental systems…that they begin to seriously ask about the huge monies that totally disappear into the bottomless maw of the Deep State/Military PermaWar complex, let alone how those monies have been used, abused and (above all) invested!!!
UH oh!!!
Trump’s unsubmitted tax returns would look like a child’s candy money-stash in comparison.
“”Best wait it out,” say the Deep State bought-and-sold media pundits and high-level pols.
Well…I got news fer ya.
We been “waiting it out” since the first bullet struck JFK, the last bullet struck MLK Jr. and the riot years.
Ain’t happened.
Not yet.
And it will not happen while the Dem Old Guard are in control.
Solution?
Vote them out of control.
Duh!!!
Too late for this next two years, though.
2020?
Let us pray.
And let us pray even harder that there is a country left in which to vote by then.
Let us pray.
Later…
AG
Per Wikipedia: “In the largest Latter Day Saint denomination, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church), bishops are called from among the members of a local congregation, known as a ward, and traditionally serve, without pay, for four to seven years…All local positions in the LDS Church operate as a lay ministry; members donate their time to perform the duties assigned with each calling. Each bishop serves with two counselors, which together form a bishopric. The counselors to a bishop are generally high priests, but there are exceptions, such as in a singles ward, where the counselors may be elders.”
Doesn’t sound too nefarious to me.
I have a friend who used to serve as a Mormon bishop’s counselor. As far as I know, he doesn’t have any horns, either.
You need to dig a little deeper. That page is almost certainly watched very closely, and edited for public consumption.
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I’ll use Wikipedia too.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_abuse_cases
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And here is a main part of the job;
https:/religionnews.com/2017/07/20/mormon-bishops-interview-policy-opens-the-door-for-sexual-abuse
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https:/www.sltrib.com/religion/local/2018/05/31/arizona-case-shows-why-mormon-bishops-are-not-repor
ting-sex-abuse-to-police-every-time-that-has-a-prosecutor-complaining-about-the-churchs-lawyers
Just to let you know, all this took about two minutes. This is the stuff your friend was involved in. Probably for years.
Like Romney.
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If one sees Mormon Orrin as some sort of principled “establishment” defender then his blithe disregard of an un-indicted conspirator prez is puzzling. But this just shows that Hatch is a defender not of the DC “establishment”, but of the “conservative” order, which is the highest ideal.
So of course his views are beyond hypocritical and are intellectually indefensible. That’s a given for a “conservative”. But one must remember that “conservatives” have never respected the enacted laws and rules regarding campaign finance, and certainly don’t consider violation of those laws as legitimate crimes. Hell, Roberts’ Repubs may declare the entire campaign finance regime unconstitutional in the next five years, despite it already being on life support!
Hatch has been deeply complicit in every Repub atrocity and malfeasance throughout the entire failed “conservative” era. He is one of the principal authors of the nation’s abject failure. He is buddies with all these sickening white male “conservative” senators who have worked so diligently to destroy the federal government, while being awarded “medals of freedom”, of all insanity. He’s leaving, but his turd buddies like Addison McConnell and John Corndog are gonna be left to deal with upholding a criminal prez that the debased and degraded Repub base obviously adores. And that base can’t be crossed.
So Orrin’s not going to screw his pals with some parting shot indicating that Der Trumper is a national disgrace and obvious felon—breaking ranks on the way out the door ain’t gonna help Mitch’s Menagerie and the loathsome “conservative” movement one whit! So of course he leaves praising and defending the degenerate “conservative” order that he helped create. And even in his last week in office does all he can to ensure that the wrecked federal government can’t even lift its head off the ground.
That’s “conservatism”! Fie!
You call good `ol Orrin a `Mormon’.
They don’t like that;
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/17/us/mormon-church-name-trnd/index.html
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Hatch’s performance at Senate hearings recently would seem to indicate he’s stayed too long at the fair. Remember this exchange he had with Sherrod Brown last fall?
In 1976, in his first run for public office, Hatch was elected to the United States Senate, defeating Democrat Frank Moss, a three-term incumbent. Among other issues, Hatch criticized Moss’s 18-year tenure in the Senate, saying “What do you call a Senator who’s served in office for 18 years? You call him home.”
Thanks for reminding us about that! He and Grassley (elected in 1980) have both grown increasingly cranky, bitter, and mean.
“There was a time in the 1990’s when I considered Sen. Orrin Hatch a serious legislator.”
Three words officially uttered from the throat of Orin Hatch: Long Dong Silver.
Well, by employing Occam’s Razor, the explanation is really very clear and very simple.
Orrin Hatch is a fucking piece of shit, and always has been.
Solid answer, but he could to be a P.O.S. in a variety of ways. Why this way?
It could be that he just doesn’t want to spend his remaining years dealing with the vituperation from the MAGA crowd that is running his Party, and are likely to continue to run it for whatever time he has left on this earth. He is 84 years old. At this point in his life, he might deem it easier to just go along in order to get along, rather than be ostracized and demonized, like other Senators have been, who have pushed back against Trump. Who wants to spend their final years as the outcast, when he can be tribe member in good standing until the day he dies?
Old age and the prospect of one’s mortality can push people in different directions. Some people get a crush of conscience which might have eluded them in their formative years, as they ponder in their final years what truly matters and what doesn’t. Others can become bitter and cranky, and simply embrace the anger and insanity that is surrounding them, and absorb it, and as a result they just no longer give a flying fuck about anything or anyone, other than themselves and those who are like them.
Or it could be that this evil has always resided somewhere deep in his heart, and he has finally found the freedom, with the emergence of Trumpism, to proudly fly his freak flag. Maybe what he sees in Donald Trump is something he always wished he had the courage to do, but never had the balls to embrace it.
I have said for these last two years that there are a lot of people I love, who I will never be able to quite look at in the same way as I had before they embraced Trump. I have seen sides of people that I never wanted to believe existed, which are now prominently and proudly displayed by them all the time. I had seen glimmers of those negative traits here and there over the years, but now they are fully unchained, and it makes me want to vomit.
Really, why should Orrin Hatch be any different than those people in my life who have finally found, with Trump, this deep and abiding connection with the reptilian portion of their brains, and a deep despising of all those “others”?
Mitt Romney vote to impeach Trump? Mitt’s in the Senate to revive his national profile before launching his next bid for the Presidency. He’s not going to endanger that bid by ousting Trump.
That really is the predicament, isn’t it?
Party over Country
Rich over Poor
Ambition over Beliefs
At least it’s an ethos.
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`Ambition over Beliefs’ is what I went with, but I was tempted to use `ethics’ instead of `beliefs’, but neither seems apt. `Values’ seems better, but the word has been hijacked to such an extent that it’s difficult to use. Certainly I would never ascribe `Ambition over Values’ to what passes as a Christian these days, their `Values’ being so valueless that of course Ambition would be more important to them. Both Romney and Hatch are both walking billboards to that philosophy.
What do y’all think?
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I think there’s a vast clanging hollowness where values, ethics, morality, conscience, and honor should reside in those fucking people.
Lately it’s seemed like you are holding back on your opinions, please, tell us how you really feel.
I prefer not to immolate my keyboard.
Pardoning Nixon sure helped Ford avoid the primary challenge from Reagan, prevented him from beating Reagan, and helped him beat Carter.
He’s too old to be a viable presidential candidate. Practically any Democrat would wipe Mittens out and he should know that by now.