Charles Krauthammer is upset that America is getting blamed for the civil war in Iraq. In his opinion it is the fault of the Iraqis. We tried to give them democracy and they chose civil war.
I’ve got a couple of things to say about this. There are bad people in the world. Adolf Hitler was a psychotic person. He hijacked a country that was suffering from economic hardship and military disgrace. It’s true that ‘the Jewish problem’ in Germany was not invented by Hitler. Anti-Semitism was far more pervasive in Germany (and Europe and America) than just the National Socialist Party. But there was nothing inherent in German society, no inexorable logic, that led to the Holocaust or to German wars of conquest. Hitler took a civilized society and turned into a machine of pure evil.
That seems to be how conservatives like Charles Krauthammer looked at Saddam Hussein. He saw Iraq as a basically decent, secular, potentially pro-Western society that had been unfortunately hijacked by a bloodthirsty anti-Semitic dictator. It never seems to have occurred to Charles Krauthammer that Saddam Hussein acted like a son-of-a-bitch to the Shi’ites and the Kurds because there were internal dynamics in Iraq that made it very hard to hold it together. I don’t want anyone to think I am excusing the way Saddam Hussein operated. I’m not excusing gassing civilians or torturing and mutilating people. I don’t know how much of the horrible things Saddam did and had done were necessary and how much of it just fed his sadistic nature. He and he sons were definitely sadistic. But I think we can look at Iraq today and understand why Saddam operated the country as a police state. It’s hard to see how anyone can regain control over the country and provide basic security without resorting to many of the dictatorial tactics used by Saddam.
And let’s not get distracted and think the situation in Iraq means that Arabs are incapable of democracy anywhere and at anytime. I’m not saying that. But Iraq was a really bad place to choose as a laboratory of democracy because of the sectarian and ethnic divisions that exist there. Egypt is much more homogenous. I bet Egypt could do democracy. Iraq cannot. It’s a fact that many knowledgeable people predicted. And we need to come to grips with it.
Krauthammer is trying to come to grips with it:
Our entire strategy has been to fight one side and then the other to try to prevent sectarian violence — a policy that has been one of the leading reasons Americans are ready to quit and walk away. They can understand one-front wars, but they can’t understand two-, three- and four-front wars, with Americans fighting any and all in sequence and sometimes in combination.
But he is failing to acknowledge that the people that really understood Iraq already knew this before the first shock-and-awe bomb fell. And people like Krauthammer didn’t listen to them. They were dismissed and their patriotism was questioned. So, when we ask whose fault it is that 600,000 Iraqis are now dead (not the tens of thousands that Krauthammer estimates) we have to point the finger right back at Krauthammer. He is responsible. No, not the military. Not the Iraqis. The neo-cons that made the decision and the case for war are responsible. The blood is on your hands Charles. Your hands and the hands of the monkey-in-chief and his quail-hunting sidekick.
Krauthammer was one of the neocon architects of this disaster. Now he’s trying to blame somebody else.
many many people are paying in blood for the delusional hubris of the neocon cabal. Krauthammer and his ilk are cowards of the first order.
it is because the neocons can only think in black in white as they failed to digest what happen to Yugoslovia after the dictator Tito died. And look what the 90’s brought us, Serbs fighting Croatia’s and Bosnian Muslims; Kosovo etc.
How could anyone think Iraq would be a cake walk. You have Kurds who are the largest ethnic minority in the world without a homeland. Sunni and Shia..and minority population surpressing the majority Shia. Add a few Turkmen, and Iran & Trukey who do not want to see an Independent Kurdish State. Add a little Oil to the mix and you’ve got a nice little civil war and the possiblity of the U.S. being shot at by all sides.
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of the American people by their stupidity and lies is IMO equivalent to treason. Selling out the nation to the Exxons, Halliburtons, Lockheeds and Blackwaters.
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
Wonder if Chuckie-Pooh ever reads any of the comments attached to his little perplexed and historically moronic rant? Doubt it, but if he does, he will realize something – the blogosphere is pretty fucking democratic.
THere are probably 500 responses, and 492 are negative, some very much so.
The issue is not whether Arabs can build democracies. That’s up to them, not us. The issue is that you don’t “give democracy” to somebody else’s country by bombing the shit out it and killing half a million of its civilians. Rightwing freaks like Krauthammer and Bush and Cheney love to spout big words like “democracy” and “freedom” but those are just meaningless tokens in the power games they play.
They didn’t understand Iraq because they don’t want to — it would only interfere with their good times. PR talking points like Krauthammer’s are no more relevant than Hitler’s “evidence” of Jewish conspiracies or Germany’s God-given right to lebensraum. The neo-cons have killed more people than Saddam ever did. They deserve to share his fate.
These days everybody likes to beat up on Thomas Friedman, but back when the impending invasion of Iraq was just a poorly kept secret he wrote something that was stunningly prescient. I can’t quote him exactly, but I can paraphrase pretty closely I think. He wrote something like this:
Iraq under Saddam is a black box. If we pry the lid off, nobody knows what kind of demons might fly out. It’s hard to know from the outside whether Iraq is the way it is because of what Saddam is, or if Saddam is the way he is because of what Iraq is.
I’d say we have a pretty good answer to that question now.
not ignorant, bystander
I`ve paraphrased the same quote, & think it`s very appropriate, but you`d think that people would realize the “unknown unknowns” are unknown. It seems like they didn`t weight the box or shake it, listen to anybody that said it was even ticking, & now it`s “whose fault” when they just went ahead & opened it.
…in true Friedman style, he later went on to say, also paraphrasing, that Bushs plan was bold and that was his reason for supporting it. That is the Friedman dilemna: every once in while a nugget of gold in a great big steaming pile of bullshit.
Iraq was a black box that had been sealed shut for more than 30 years of Baathist rule. We did not know what was inside, and we would know only after we broke the locks. As such, two questions tugged at me: First, is Iraq the Arab Germany or the Arab Yugoslavia?
WHY I STILL HAVE HOPE.
People Power
by Thomas L. Friedman
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
From behind the NYT pay per view firewall:
He goes on to say, among other things:
Why do the Iraqi’s hate our freedoms???
Outstanding insight and story, Booman. I could not do any better in my best frame of mind.
Any so called experts should have been able to see that Saddam kept the lid on a tough situation the only way anyone could when dealing with a religious dispute that is 1400 years old. I think Daddy Bush knew this well in 1991, and did not upset the religious cart because of that. Now where oh where were Daddy Bush’s expert in 2003, or did Jr. just not listen??
All this talk about how things should have been predicted does not excuse the need for justice and accountability for those that made international crimes routine and cost many thousands of lives. Someday such justice must be had!
Remember, neo-con lies are always nested.
First layer–that civil war is the fault of the Iraqis.
So we argue–Saddam held the country together, yada yada, half true, but thereby falling for the deeper lie.
Second layer–that the US did not instigate this. But the fact is otherwise: The US set the civil war in motion DIRECTLY by sending Negreponte over to Iraq for a tour of duty to organize death squads. The death squads were the precursor to what we are seeing now.
Poor Kraut- (German for “Cabbage”)Hammer (German for “Hammer”). Just keep on hammering the cabbage my dear friend, and see where it gets you. Maybe “Sauerkraut” (“Soured Cabbage” in German) if you keep hammering away at it.
Sorry for all the translations, but his name really does bring up metaphors for me (I’m a German born American).