“Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”- attributed to Benjamin Franklin.
I always thought the Republicans were the party more concerned with Essential Liberty.
Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed.- Barry Goldwater
If that was ever true, it is true no longer. The Republicans and their supporters have little regard for Essential Liberty and are clamoring for a little Temporary Safety.
Asked if they would favor or oppose a
number of different specific methods to combat terror, the partisan
division is clear in most questions.
Would you favor |
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DEM |
GOP |
IND |
Allowing video |
80% |
77% |
87% |
74% |
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55% |
45% |
66% |
52% |
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The series of questions reveals that majorities of Democrats oppose all surveillance methods except video surveillance of public places, while independents align with Democrats on this series of questions on all issues except random searches of purses, handbags, backpacks and other packages, where a narrow majority of independents are in favor. In all cases, however, independents track closer to Democratic percentages than the more stridently favorable views of Republicans. A majority of GOP voters, meanwhile, favor all types of searches, with the exception of random mail searches—but even on this least popular anti-terror measure, a narrow plurality of Republicans backs the measure.”,1]
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Allowing regular
roadblocks to search vehicles
48%
38%
62%
44%
Allowing your car to
be searched at random
45%
37%
60%
36%
Allowing your
telephone conversations to be monitored
37%
20%
56%
34%
Allowing your mail to
be searched at random
36%
26%
49%
31%
*Percent agreeing with method reported
More depressing poll numbers below.
Do you agree or disagree |
OVER-ALL |
DEM |
GOP |
IND |
Agree |
46% |
32% |
65% |
39% |
Disagree |
50% |
65% |
30% |
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As withnother questions, the survey’s queries about Saddam’s reputed involvement inn9/11 show Democrats and Republicans holding opposite views. But, just ahead of the 2006 mid-termnelections, independents are tracking closer to Democrats than Republicans onnthese questions.
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Pollster John Zogby: “Five years after 9/11, the dramatic resultsnfrom this survey are found in the different partisan perceptions of nationalnsecurity, and what people believe should be done to keep our country safe.nDemocrats and independents line up against the policies of the Bushnadministration, while Republicans line up supporting them.
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“Most Republicans said it wasnright for the U.S. to expand the war on terrorism by attacking Iraq, that therenwas a connection between Saddam Hussein and the 9/11 terror attacks, and thatnthey believe the government should have the right to conduct searches ofnpersonal property and telephone conversations to find terrorists. MostnDemocrats disagree on every point.
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“If I were advising Democrats,nI would tell them to energize their base on this issue. If I were advisingnRepublicans, I would tell them to energize their base on this issue. Thendifference is, the President is doing this right now. The Democrats are not.”
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The survey of 1,014 likely voters nationwide, which also places President Bush’s job approval rating at 37%, was conducted Sept. 1 through 5, 2006, and has a margin of effort of +/-3.1 percentage points.
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The question of whether the war has been worth the loss of Americannlives finds stark differences on a number of fronts-respondents aged 30 to 49nare much more inclined to believe the war worth the cost than their peers innother groups, although men and women see eye-to-eye on the question. Residents of large cities are least likelynto believe the war worth its costs, while small-city residents are most likelynto believe the war’s human costs justified.
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The division is starker, though, on the question of whether expandingnthe War on Terror by invading Iraq was the right decision. There, 49% say the invasion was the rightndecision, while 50% disagree. While thennation is completely split on the question, there is a clear partisan componentnto those views, with 82% of Republicans saying the decision was the right one,nwhile 77% of Democrats and 60% of independents disagree.”,1]
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OVER-ALL
How can anyone support regular roadblocks, indiscriminate personal searches and telephone surveillance? Is everyone so dumb that they think it wouldn’t apply to them? I bet they wouldn’t think it was such a great idea after the first time they experienced a scary search for nothing.
the next time their sun gets popped for having a little ganja in his pocket in a school zone and has to serve three consecutive mandatory life sentences for it, they might reconsider.
Or maybe when the local police officer starts playing with the Mrs. vibrator she foolishly put in her purse, while hubby looks on, they might think twice.
Or maybe, when they discover that that third glass of wine at cousin Joey’s wedding reception is gonna cost them big time.
Sure, random searches and roadblocks will catch more drunks and potheads, but at what cost in hassle and lost productivity and happiness for the rest of us?
OOh. But if we can stop one 9/11 it will be worth it all.
Tell it to Ben Franklin and Barry Goldwater.
Didn’t someone once say “Give me liberty or give me death?”
Naah, I must have imagined it.
It’s hardly a surprise to discover, yet again, that Republicans today comprise the bottom of the barrel in terms of intellect and basic knowledge of the real world. They’ve given us the stupidest, most proudly ignorant president in the history of this country. He represents them well.
Regarding the poll, though, I don’t think I can recall a more dishonest question from a mainstream polling outfit. There is absolutely no basis for claiming that any of the options presented would give any protection from terrorist acts. None. Nada. Zip. For Zogby to set up the question as it did was incredibly unprofessional and knowingly dishonest. I wonder who their real client was?
I also wonder what the response would have been like if the question had been honestly and competently worded: “Do you favor these methods as ways to prevent terrorist acts?”
How much has the Iraq war cost – PER MINUTE?
$171,282
Hard to believe but true.
I am shocked that so many DEMOCRATS agree with those proposals.
But then I’m not at all happy with the “if it meant increased protection” phrasing of the question.