Isn’t it? The attention to bs from the major corporate news channels to delegates, states won, who’s spinning what. It’s not what I need from this race. What I need is some idea why people are voting as they are. What issues are moving them? What do they believe a particular candidate will do for them? I don’t see any of that from our vaunted analysts in the corporate media. They are pushing McCain and Clinton as if that is the only solution. What does that tell you, as a voter?
I know what it tells me. Avoid those candidates like they are carriers of the plague. Whoever the corporate media supports should be the last person you vote for. God, what have we become? Just another banana republic? Think about it.
Obama could come out with more delegates tonight. It’s going to be really close.
According to a relative, early demographics from California indicated that 82% without a high school education voted for Hillary and 56% of those with post graduate degrees voted for Obama.
Same California relative pointed out that two of the major candidates were hawks (McCain and Hillary) when the country has turned against the war.
In our caucus nearly everyone had never been to a caucus before although they had lived in Colorado most of their lives. It was a large crowd. I went in 2004, my first election in Colorado, and it was a joke because it was so late it didn’t matter. In any case, our precinct and county went for Obama 67%, mirroring the state. An older woman in our precinct started in trying convince everyone that there was no excuse to not vote for a woman. Women had waited longer for the vote than black men. Any woman deserved our support. Before she veered down a road that had racist overtones, we managed to change the dynamic of the discussion. We also debated platform issues and the war was #1 and the Patriot Act and loss of civil liberties was next.
In our local peace group (very active little group), a number of the men were aggressively supporting Hillary because they wanted someone “tough fisted.” I found that shocking. In the meantime, their 60+ wives supported Obama, partly because they consider him the anti-war candidate, but also deep antipathy to Hillary and Bill, in line with what Booman has written about. The inclusion message also strikes a deep chord with many here.
Our particular precinct appeared to be all over 40 yrs old (other precincts had sprinklings of younger people), all white (other precincts had sprinklings of other groups) and diverse in regard to education and income. Total population of our county is 16,000. Not wealthy, in fact fairly poor, but a healthy dose of retired professionals who represent the highest education and income in the area. Many of the younger people are holding down 2 and 3 jobs to make ends meet.
I am an Obama delegate to the County Convention. I have no idea how our votes will translate into delegates, even though I went to the training sessions. It is a Byzantine, undemocratic system. We arranged for baby sitters but otherwise not much you can do for people who are ill, must work, had to be out of town on business, etc.
And a bit off topic–I think California showed the hazards of early mail in ballots. People are voting without knowledge of weeks of campaigning, candidate back and forth, etc.
It’s interesting to watch how the media have talked about Obama.
In the beginning, they said that his problem was that most of his supporters were white, which made blacks leery of him.
Now they say that he is winning because most of his supporters are black, which makes whites leery of him.
For the Media’s sake, it’s nice to see Obama and Huckabee doing so well. They have tried to stick us with Hillary and McCain from the start. Let’s reject them both.
Obama’s within 4,000 votes with 96% reporting in Mizzou. And I think he’s going to pull it out.
MSNBC’s numbers show Obama surging ahead in Missouri.
Per Kos, Boone is all that’s left, and it’s a college town going 61-36% for Obama. He won Missouri.
Clinton has apparently won Cal.
Earlier tonight this was supposed to be a huge victory in the primaries and the general election. Now we will see the corporate spin.
Tim Russert was sickening tonight doing everything in his power not to give Obama’s campaign any momentum. Begala was spinning that the rich were for Obama. It is truly F***ing adsurd!
This has been a huge night for Obama. Two weeks ago I was scared he wouldn’t survive this evening. Now he has beaten a major political machine in a 24 state fight. Give your money or give your time. This guy is something we won’t see again for a long time. We are Obama.
Goodnight everyone.
Earlier tonight meaning Missouri.
Larry King just introduced Paul Begala as a Hillary Clinton supporter then Begala went on to say that Hillary won the night. I mean come on!
Gee — who would’ve thought that the name displayed outside all those retail clothing outlets was actually some kinda prophecy.
Or warning.
The Corporate God works in mysterious ways.
the GAP?
Tsk Tsk Keith! He just called California the “big enchilada” and says ‘pardon the pun’ [rolls eyes heavily]
I know it’s a funny comment, butI wonder what the markets will do tomorrow. Since there was a big drop today, I figure they would probably bouce back tomorrow anyway, but… I guess I’m just thinking out loud.
Either Dem promises a better macro-economic climate, and the story the networks haven’t gotten to is the huge turnout all across the board for Dems. But Obama’s speach, man…
He sounds awful good on Keynesian incentive-based R&D. It would be cool if the markets could catch the breeze, so to speak. And the vampires on Wall Street need housing relief as much as anyone.
To be fair, no one on Wall Street should complain if HRC gets it, either. I think the Obama mo will win out, but she would do fine by the brokerages…
like I said, just thinkin out loud.
Older white women are voting for the Clinton’s because she’s female. And then exhorting us younger women to use our heads and not our hearts. All of them have bought the Clinton’s smear campaigns without actually doing any research or knowing what they’re talking about.
The media will have you believe that young people are just for change without thinking. I can say that from my experience talking to college students at the Obama rally, they were probably some of the most informed voters I’ve spoken to outside of blogs.
They did (occasionally) discuss the statistics from the exit polls but they focused more on demographics — and only very briefly on “most important issue” — “Change” and “Economy” were the big winners there. Like that should come as a surprise to anyone with half the brain of a newt….
They need better exit polls…. or something.
That’s about as useful as asking people if they think the country is going in the right direction. The question should be, “What is the right direction?”
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Anyone know if there were states won by Obama in the red state parts of the Mid-West because of anti-Clinton sentimemt?
Both Clinton and Obama have some claim on Edwards voters. There is an anti-establishment, anti-Clinton sentiment among some Democrats that suggests an affinity between the Obama and Edwards camps. On the other hand, many of Clinton’s supporters are diehard, partisan Democrats, and Clinton may hold more of an appeal for those individuals.
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
why do you feel that it is OK to pick on Bannanas?