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Posted by BooMan | Apr 21, 2008 | 55 |

Chat among yourselves. But remember…no whoop-de-doo speeches.

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Martin Longman a contributing editor at the Washington Monthly. He is also the founder of Booman Tribune and Progress Pond. He has a degree in philosophy from Western Michigan University.

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idredit on April 21, 2008 at 1:13 pm

Down-playing the outcome

Obama says his goal is to keep Pennsylvania close, but predicts Clinton victory

Clinton was hoping a big win could boost her chance at the nomination. A loss would increase pressure on her to exit the race, with Obama leading in delegates and the popular vote.

Pennsylvania is the largest of the 10 contests remaining, with about 4 million registered Democrats and 158 delegates up for grabs in the primary.

The demographics suit Clinton. The state has a higher median age, a higher percentage of whites, a lower median household income and fewer bachelor’s degrees than the country overall. These are the voters — working-class whites and voters older than 50 — who have flocked to her in past contests.

There are some encouraging signs as well for Obama. Thousands of new voters have registered for the primary. The largest bounce has been in Centre County, home to Penn State, and Obama tends to fair best among college students.

“We’ve run a tough race here in Pennsylvania,” he said in the radio interview. “Senator Clinton obviously was heavily favored. She was up 20. And you know, we’ve just been trying to chip away.”
- Brendan Skwire on April 21, 2008 at 1:17 pm
  
  I wonder if reporter Liz Sidoti gave Obama donuts with sprinkles and some coffee?
  - idredit on April 21, 2008 at 1:38 pm
    
    posted in another Thread on Drudge reporting Clinton gave him exclusive on campaign’s own internal polling – shows 11-point lead in PA. Now Clinton is denying they spoke with him.
    
    Nothing can be trusted. PR wars on. Tuesday night we’ll see.
    
    Gawd, let it be over.
    - shirlstars on April 21, 2008 at 2:03 pm
      
      I have a simple solution. . .never, never, never believe anything Druge reports.
      
      My measure of others. . .once you lie to me about anything, I take everything from then on with a large grain of rock salt.
      
      Doesn’t leave me many to “believe” these days, but it seems to be a rather good measure of these things, at least for me.
- Drew J Jones on April 21, 2008 at 2:08 pm
  
  Hmm, so maybe they’re expecting to win or come close to it.
wolverine writer on April 21, 2008 at 1:15 pm

And doo and doo.

Sure hoping for good news tomorrow.
- maryb2004 on April 21, 2008 at 1:40 pm
  
  ww – living on the edge, breaking the rules.
  
  I hope Boo’s better at getting out the Obama vote than he is at getting you food when you’re hungry in Chicago after driving for HOURS just to see him. heh.
  - CabinGirl on April 21, 2008 at 1:44 pm
    
    Well, there’s plenty of food here at Obama HQ…
    - americanforliberty on April 21, 2008 at 1:46 pm
      
      any orange juice?
    - maryb2004 on April 21, 2008 at 1:54 pm
      
      I think you are suggesting that he drive MORE hours on merely the promise of food. Although to be fair you weren’t the promisor in the last case. 😉
      - wolverine writer on April 21, 2008 at 2:37 pm
        
        Many more hours, yes, but I trust that there would actually BE food when I arrived, based on the person promising.
        
        Of all the times I’ve been east to visit, I have yet to arrive and find a cold beer waiting for me.
        
        Booputz.
      - CabinGirl on April 21, 2008 at 8:22 pm
        
        Excuse me? When you arrived at Chez Cabin, there was plenty of food and drink awaiting you, as I recall. Even if you had to bring some of it with you… 😉
      - wolverine writer on April 21, 2008 at 9:17 pm
        
        No, no, read closely, I’m not knocking the cabin in any sense. All was VERY nice there, I’m knocking Christian street, my original port of call.
        
        The intent of my comment was actually to laud the cabin’s hospitality, in direct contrast to that of the cruel and unusual (mostly unsual) Boo haunt.
  - BooMan on April 21, 2008 at 1:46 pm
    
    I got him ice cream. With sprinkles.
    - maryb2004 on April 21, 2008 at 1:52 pm
      
      The ice cream defense has never yet been successful. Even with mitigating sprinkles.
      - Second Nature on April 21, 2008 at 1:55 pm
        
        Are sprinkles really mitigating? Maybe that chocolate that instantly hardens and you have to crack your way through it. But not sprinkles.
      - maryb2004 on April 21, 2008 at 1:58 pm
        
        I believe you are right. Well, of course, yo are right. You ARE and expert on chocolate toppings. 😉
        
        We always called that gold coast chocolate but I don’t know if that’s it’s real name.
    - Real History Lisa on April 21, 2008 at 2:07 pm
      
      I am missing the Woop De Doo and ice cream sprinkles references. Something went down while I was on the phones yesterday??? 🙂 Please share!
      - fabooj on April 21, 2008 at 2:37 pm
        
        I have no idea about the ice cream but here’s the woop-de-doo reference from a couple of days ago.
      - Real History Lisa on April 21, 2008 at 2:48 pm
        
        Thanks, Fabooj. One down, one to go. Off to search for ice cream sprinkles… (and I just KNEW the Woop De Doo would come from something Clinton said!)
      - wolverine writer on April 21, 2008 at 2:52 pm
        
        Boo cruelly promised me food if I ran down under the lake to hook up with him at yearly kos, then offered only two scoops of ice cream upon my arrival. I never saw any real food until breakfast the next morning. His laughable defense has been that the ice cream had sprinkles on it, the wanker.
      - Real History Lisa on April 21, 2008 at 3:21 pm
        
        LOL, Wolverine. Thanks for the info, and sorry for the lack of protein there. I hope BooMan is never appointed the Secretary of HEW. 😉
    - wolverine writer on April 21, 2008 at 2:34 pm
      
      You forgot the spoon.
  - wolverine writer on April 21, 2008 at 2:36 pm
    
    One could easily starve to death in a city full of wonderful food options with Boo in charge.
  - wolverine writer on April 21, 2008 at 2:42 pm
    
    And by the by, hello, maryb, hope you’re having a wonderful day, and always nice to know that someone is aware of the trials and tribulations thrust upon me by those that consider ice cream food.
    - maryb2004 on April 21, 2008 at 4:09 pm
      
      well, I’m always looking out for you even though I have no influence over BooMan. As you well know. 🙂
boran2 on April 21, 2008 at 1:22 pm

Sorry, I’m too busy clinging to my elitism.
- Second Nature on April 21, 2008 at 1:22 pm
  
  Have another latte, you effete East-Coaster.
  - boran2 on April 21, 2008 at 1:27 pm
    
    Can I get a nice brioche with that?
    - maryb2004 on April 21, 2008 at 1:39 pm
      
      And here I was, going to defend you and say you weren’t effete. But a brioche? I’ll have to re-think it.
    - idredit on April 21, 2008 at 1:43 pm
      
      I make the best brioche, not from mix – long old french recipe that takes over 14 hrs before baking…. dough needs 8 hrs refrigeration.
      - Brad on April 21, 2008 at 6:14 pm
        
        C’mon now. Give up the recipe. I’m lookin’ at 7 hours of Tweety tomorrow night. It’s bound to feel like 14. Just enough time for the brioche.
    - americanforliberty on April 21, 2008 at 1:52 pm
      
      Your not suppose to eat food while driving your Volvo.
      - Second Nature on April 21, 2008 at 1:56 pm
        
        My Volvo has a lovely foie gras and cracker holder in the center console.
      - shirlstars on April 21, 2008 at 2:09 pm
        
        I was going to become an eeeleetist once, but I never could learn how to spell it, so I had to settle for something else. Is a Nissan Sentra a populist car or a comfort to the enemy? So many questions, so few answers, maybe ABC could ask some of these important things of the candidates.
      - Real History Lisa on April 21, 2008 at 2:46 pm
        
        LOL at the Nissan Sentra options!
      - americanforliberty on April 21, 2008 at 2:53 pm
        
        You could still be an elitist..see Ford owns part of Nissan and Ford also owns Volvo. So maybe your an elitist, because good money sez you order orange juice instead of coffee.
      - shirlstars on April 21, 2008 at 4:09 pm
        
        Then I must be a greedy elitist, because I would order BOTH! But I LOVE my coffee. . .not just any coffee of course. Ethiopian Harrar. . .oh, my it is just divine. I have to special order it of course. Oh well, I guess that brings me out of the closet. . .again.
gaiilonfong on April 21, 2008 at 1:31 pm

So Big Eddie Rendell hearts Farrakan

http://www.anobamaminute.com

will Hillary reject and renounce his support…LOL…
gaiilonfong on April 21, 2008 at 1:32 pm

sorry posted wrong link, but If you can give to Obama use the other link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXum_-8I1TA
Drew J Jones on April 21, 2008 at 2:11 pm

Obama now up 9 points in Gallup’s daily tracker. The weekend effect is so obvious that it’s embarrassing.
on April 21, 2008 at 2:47 pm

Obama’s Touch of Class

The piece goes over Frank’s idea of how the elite continues to successfully accuse those who want to do something about the worsening economic condition of most Americans of elitism, applying it to the attacks on Obama.

Frank deeply shares the sensibilities of the blogosphere. Murdoch giving him a column shows that Murdoch really is serious about using the WSJ to unseat the NY Times from its position as America’s premier newspaper.

(Thanks to a diary at dKos.)
idredit on April 21, 2008 at 2:50 pm

Gov. Ed. Rendell In praise of Farrakhan
(HT: Andrew Sullivan)

So Hillary?
- fabooj on April 21, 2008 at 3:24 pm
  
  That’s heavy.
- Lyrebird on April 21, 2008 at 4:08 pm
  
  Hm, I didn’t know he looked so much like Mitt Romney.
  
  Even w/o the clip, Michael Moore did such a nice job giving blame where blame is due:
  
  Seriously, I know so many people who don’t care if the name under the Big “D” is Dancer, Prancer, Clinton or Blitzen. It can be Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Barry Obama or the Dalai Lama.
  
  Well, that sounded good last year, but over the past two months, the actions and words of Hillary Clinton have gone from being merely disappointing to downright disgusting. I guess the debate last week was the final straw. I’ve watched Senator Clinton and her husband play this game of appealing to the worst side of white people, but last Wednesday, when she hurled the name “Farrakhan” out of nowhere, well that’s when the silly season came to an early end for me. She said the “F” word to scare white people, pure and simple. Of course, Obama has no connection to Farrakhan. But, according to Senator Clinton, Obama’s pastor does — AND the “church bulletin” once included a Los Angeles Times op-ed from some guy with Hamas! No, not the church bulletin!
  
  Moore goes on to endorse Obama.
  
  Used to love an English play called “She Stoops to Conquer”, but I sure wish Sen. Clinton would hold her head up instead and tell the truth. (Well, and go away and raise money for UNICEF or something instead of pretending to “leadership” in any other arena.)
  - idredit on April 21, 2008 at 4:24 pm
    
    so true. Let it end.
Tehanu on April 21, 2008 at 3:12 pm

Who is the guy in the Travelling Wilburys who looks like BooMan?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSL4Eqpm9l4
- mainsailset on April 21, 2008 at 4:28 pm
  
  Jeff Lynne
  Orig group Harrison, Lynne, Petty, Dylan & Orbison
idredit on April 21, 2008 at 3:23 pm

North Carolina Democratic Presidential Debate is cancelled

We regret to inform you that the proposed Democratic Presidential Debate scheduled for April 27 has been cancelled due to time constraints and logistical issues associated with such a large, national event.

You have shown tremendous passion and interest in being a part of history as Democrats are poised this year to elect the first female or African-American President. However, there were also growing concerns about what another debate would do to party unity.

We hope your interest in the North Carolina Democratic Party will not end with the cancellation of the debate.

Good. Obama leads in NC so the cancellation denies HRC going into NC primary with mo from PA outcome.
- Drew J Jones on April 21, 2008 at 3:55 pm
  
  I doubt she wants that debate anyway. The new PPP poll of NC has Obama up by 25 — 57-32%. It looks like she’s going to get crushed. He’s doing very well with white voters, already into the 40s, so it seems likely to be more like Virginia and Georgia than South Carolina and Alabama.
Dongi 2 on April 21, 2008 at 3:39 pm

Help, help, help. What is a Clinton late night adult moment? I don’t have a clue and it is so quiet here on senility street.

God wants what he dows not have: time and tangentiality.
- idredit on April 21, 2008 at 4:33 pm
  
  Here it is: Nancy Pelosi was asked to comment on Bill Clinton’s errors
americanforliberty on April 21, 2008 at 4:32 pm

has the “right wing conspiracy” come to an end?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080420/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_endorsement
- mainsailset on April 21, 2008 at 4:40 pm
  
  Not necessarily. Tony Snow to join CNN. Sometimes it’s harder to retire the messenger than it is his message.
mainsailset on April 21, 2008 at 5:04 pm

Oh Mother of God. They actually ALL flew down to Guantanamo and together witnessed torture and then gave the all clear.

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