I saw a Seinfeld episode once where the character George Constanza determined that every instinct he had was wrong. He adopted a strategy of doing the exact opposite of whatever his instinct was, in the hope that the opposite of what is wrong must be right. I don’t remember exactly how that worked out for him, but I think the strategy is relevant to U.S. policy in the Middle East. Whatever might have been said in favor of George W. Bush’s promotion of democracy in the Middle East, the actual elections that took place in Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, and Palestine did not work out well. In every case but Lebanon, a government was elected that was hostile to the United States and Israel, and which defined itself by that opposition. In Lebanon, an assassination and a war with Israel conspired to raise the influence of Hezbollah. In Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was elected. In Iraq, a sectarian, Iran-friendly government was elected. They were somewhat pliable to American influence, but not to the degree that was desired. Worse, they were ineffective at governance and failed to bring the country together. And, in Palestine, Hamas won the election which pretty much doomed any chance of near-term progress on the peace process.
Because Bush’s policies and agenda were so wrong-headed, it would be a mistake to consider these outcomes as irrational, or even as unambiguously negative. But they, in combination, plunged the region into a major funk. We can be as critical as is warranted about U.S. policy in the Middle East, but few people dispute that America is the ultimate peace-maker in the region. By that, I mean, peace will not come until America gets its policies right, because no one else has the influence to force compromises in the right places.
Someone looking for simple policy shifts that might be productive could be tempted to just adopt a strategy of doing the opposite of whatever the Bush administration did. And, while that is an oversimplification, it is not far from the strategy that is being employed by the Obama administration.
Where Bush refused to talk to adversaries, Obama challenges our adversaries to negotiate. Where Bush made secret agreements to let Israel expand their settlements, Obama forbids their expansion. Where Bush used every opportunity to denigrate Islam, Obama praises it. And, all of a sudden, you see things begin to change. The first indicator was the election in Lebanon where the Hezbollah coalition unexpectedly made no progress. Hopefully, on Friday, Iran will vote Ahmadinejad out of power. Perhaps, later this year, Iraq will have good elections that result in a better representation of the demographics of the country. And maybe that will help ease America’s withdrawal from a more stable country.
Palestine is still a big mess. But, with any luck, Obama will have removed several arguments that Israel uses against making any progress in the peace process. Without the insane ravings of Ahmadinejad and with Hezbollah’s power checked, Israeli hardliners will have a harder time convincing people (and themselves) that they are under siege. If they are forced to stop settlement expansion, the Israeli government can at least begin implementing the Road Map (or something like it). If Obama can convince Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel, there will little salience to the argument that Obama’s more conciliatory policies have made Israel less safe.
Finally, as Obama plays good cop, Hillary plays bad cop. By her threat to nuke Tehran into the glass-age if they use nuclear weapons against Israel, she takes away another argument against concessions and peace.
Things are moving in a positive direction. And it’s mainly a matter of doing the opposite of whatever Bush and Cheney felt was the way to go.
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Compliments to you Martin and the Bootribe for having a fair and open discussion on the P-I issue in recent years. That’s why I appreciate the pond and all its inhabitants and lurkers. Way ahead of the ostrich policy in Washington and many other left blogs. Too hot to handle?
Tackle defeatism head-on
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
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Too hot to handle?
Tackle defeatism head-on
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
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“We accept the official results with sportsmanship and in a democratic way,” Nasrallah said in a televised address, a day after elections.
“The resistance choice is not a choice of an armed group, but a popular choice proved in recent elections,” Nasrallah said, pointing to a difference between a “parliamentary majority” and a “popular majority.”
Nasrallah stressed that the choice of a strong state is also the choice of the resistance.
“We are facing all level challenges, the cooperation by all parties is needed and this is related to the will of the other political groups.”
He congratulated his political rivals:
“I would like to congratulate all those who won, those in the majority and those in the opposition. We accept the fact that the competition won a majority while the opposition retained its presence in parliament.”
File Oct. 27, 2008 – Nasrallah meets Hariri secretly on Lebanon unity
≈ Cross-posted from my diary — Reality Check, Buying Votes in Lebanon ≈
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
Why, exactly? Hamas entered office in the middle of a self-imposed unilateral ceasefire, requesting negotiations on a long-term truce based on the two-state settlement. Regrettably Israel and the US, along with the EU, responded to Hamas’s overtures with diplomatic isolation, economic strangulation and ultimately brutal violence – but there was nothing inevitable about that. If we had responded differently who knows where we’d be now.
IIRC, the US response was tied to Hamas’ refusal to repudiate its call for Israel’s eradication, replacing the State of Israel with a Palestinian Islamic State in the area that is now Israel.
Well, why not negotiate? Likud’s charter refuses to recognize Palestine.
Always the bait and switch by Israel.
The pretext for the US response was Hamas’s refusal to accept the so-called Quartet “principles”: that it renounce violence, abide by past agreements and recognise Israel’s mythical ‘right to exist’. Since no comparable demands were placed on Israel, these “principles” were all utterly hypocritical and fraudulent, and Hamas quite rightly dismissed them.
For this the Palestinians, already in some areas suffering malnutrition rates comparable to sub-Sharan Africa, were subjected to what John Dugard describes as possibly the most rigorous set of international sanctions in modern times, while Hamas’s many overtures (its acceptance of the Prisoner’s Document, which called for a state on the ’67 borders and would have limited resistance activities to the oPt; its offer of a long-term truce with Israel; its request for negotiations on a settlement with the US; its self-imposed unilateral truce, adhered to in the face of constant Israeli provocation; its promise to abide by any agreement reached between Abbas and Israel, so long as it passed a popular referendum; etc.) were not only ignored but actively undermined.
you know, it was about as inevitable as something can be without actually being inevitable.
It’s just that the way you’ve written it, it sounds like you’re blaming what happened not on the disgusting US response to Hamas’s electoral victory, but on that electoral victory itself. As if the problem was with the Palestinian elections, rather than with the efforts by the US and others to subvert them.
Many years ago there was a famous comic strip character created by Al Capp (Lil Abner) whose name was Joe PZest3457big or something like that. He was a stooped over little guy dressed completely in black with a big slouch hat. Wherever Joe went disaster was sure to follow. Pianos falling off roofs, car accidents, floods, tornadoes, people falling from step ladders, tripping on curbs, falling into holes, slipping on banana peels, you know, just a stream of negativity and bad luck.
GWBush strikes me as a modern equivalent of poor, old, Joe. Whatever GWB touched turned into crap, and his fractured syntax and grammar simply reflected a brain already cracked. So, it is not a bad idea to reverse Bush’s policies on anything, starting with the Mideast and, hopefully, continuing to domestic affairs. Why not take advantage of a talent exceedingly rare and find success by doing the opposite?
Viva Obama!
For the sake of the Iranians themselves I hope that Moussavi wins Friday’s election. Their lives have become difficult under Ahmadinejad, esecially economically. Very difficult times for them.
But I think that Iran has the right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes. In tandem, I think Israel must be FORCED to allow IAEA inspectors in to examine their nuclear facilites and be put under enormous pressure (trade sanctions!) to sign the non-proliferation treaty or shut up. After all, Iran has done all these things.
Booman,
You are an engaging observer but you do tend towards abstractions, which I find slippery, like a lot of U.S. top-tier pundits in the leading newspapers. The U.S. cosmos is the natural cosmos. Can you tell me exactly what the U.S.’s beef is with Iran? In very specific terms There was always something to complain about (first, hostages) and since Ahmadinejad started making his ton-of-bricks remarks about Israel and the holocaust, he is constantly faulted for them as if he really intends to, and is capable of, following through. The U.S.had a beef with Saadam, too, until… Of course that was also based on fantasy. The Iranians support ‘terrorists’? The Iranians once held hostages? No ‘proof’ has been made public that Iran is inching towards a nuclear weapon though every one assumes they are. How would you define U.S. intentions? I’m sure that once Mrs. Clinton and her staff get the ball rolling they will not be content with anything less than regime change. Before the end of Mr. O.’s first term the U.S., or Israel with U.S. support, will have bombarded Iran. This prediction strikes as a a fact before the fact. I don’t think the U.S. has the right to determine what kind of government Iran has. This very simple statement has been contradicted over the last century by all U.S. (read British) relations with Iran. Will Mrs. Clinton don a chador and go to Iran to talk with the government? No. Her respect and tolerance have their limits. Obama’s too. Of course I talk about of them as figureheads.
I agree that Iran has the right to refine uranium and that Israel should be accountable to the IAEA regarding the use of their many nuclear weapons. I feel, further, that H. Clinton was way out of line threatening Iran with nuclear retaliation in the event of an Iranian strike upon Israel which seems preposterous to me given the huge disparity – in Israel’s favor – of their respective nuclear arsenals. Like 200/300 to zero.
If I was an Iranian leader, I would tie my country to Russia and China acquiring as many weapons as I could to defend my land against the same kind of imperialism that the US manifested re Iraq. Are our national leaders nuts? Do they think that a civilization as ancient as Iran (Persia) is, is going to roll over and play dead just because we issue a jingoistic blast or two or three at them?
If it really is a case of good and bad cop routine, then, I think our leadership had better grow up and fast. No one wins if current conflicts go nuclear!
I posted a comment but I made a mistake and it ended up downthread. Now I know who Kabir is.
Hillary’s comments are aimed at Israeli opinion, not Iranian.
I think that’s right. It was as way of assuring Israel that Obama’s shock talk on settlements doesn’t mean Israel has to go it alone on the Palestine question. It preempts some of the inevitable fear mongering that the Israeli Right will roll out.
So does every country on earth have a right to enrich uranium, or just some, including Iran?
If you are a party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Act, then you can pursue a domestic energy program that includes uranium enrichment if you adhere to all the inspection requirements.
Iran’s record on this is mixed, but definitely not spotless.
The latest IAEA report is here (PDF).
Israel is not a party to the treaty, which allows them to avoid all this intrusive inspection stuff.
And to me, that’s a big goddamned problem.
I mean Joe Pzes#&*$(@big.
Is no one going to tell Booman what happened to George?
His opposite plan worked perfectly: he got a hot girlfriend, his dream job with the NY Yankees and was able to move out of his parents’ home.
On a more serious note, I love that Obama is getting credit for the way the Lebanon elections went, but not sure whether it’s a good precedent. Not all elections are going to have such positive results. If he’s getting credit now, he’ll get the blame next time.
Of course, that’s just spin: I agree with the essential premise that Obama’s approach is having a real effect on the domestic politics within that region.
The bush cabal produced governments that “were ineffective at governance and failed to bring the country together.”
You can say that again.
healthline.com:
Life is just so weird – eventually we’ll figure it out (with the help of the arts.)
Despite this conventional wisdom, I will not accept it as fact until it happens. And I am not so sure that the US media’s overweening interest in the outcome is necessarily helpful.
I never really understood the line of reasoning that, if the balance of power is totally and completely in Israel’s favor then Israel will be able to ‘compromise.’ Yet they only times Israel has relented was when the balance had shifted to their disfavor.
Having said that, Neither Lebanon’s election nor Iran’s is going to shift the balance of power one way or the other. And it may be better for Lebanon and Iran to appear reasonable…as long as they make no compromise without serious concessions in return.
The American mind and power of magical thinking as illustrated by Booman: “Bush used every opportunity to denigrate Islam, Obama praises it …” Huh? “Few people doubt America is the ultimate peace-maker in the region…” Come again? “No one else has the influence to force compromises in the right places” Without getting unduly scatological, where are these right places supposedly located? “With any luck, Obama will have removed several arguments that Israel uses against making any progress in the peace process“. In other words none other than Obama “defeated” Hezbollah in 2009. And if Ahmedinejad fails to win reelection, Obama will have defeated him. Irony alerts are obviously out, Imperial fantasies are in, now that a Democrat is in the White House…
Noteworthy also the use of sectarian jargon: “ Obama challenges our adversaries to negotiate“. Not perceived adversaries of the US government, no no: our adversaries.
Oui was absolutely right when he applauded earlier that the Booman Tribune has been a rare US liberal site where the Palestinian issue wasn’t automatically off-limits. I too applaud that.
I just wish that Booman could dial up his actual knowledge level and dial down the mindless identification with US Imperialist talking points…
we get blamed for everything that happens, why not take some credit when things take a positive turn?
Remember this.
The key reason why we have opposed democratic reforms in the Middle East is because we were able to get the autocratic governments of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan to either make peace with Israel or to basically do nothing about their occupation.
Once those agreements were in place, we didn’t want to put them at risk.
Bush ignored this history and foolishly thought that democratic elections would transform the region into a more pro-American pro-Israel place. Democracy is good. The key is to have both democracy and good relations. Obama’s approach is the only logical way to accomplish that.
But it’s a very tricky tightrope to walk, and the key is to produce a peace process in Israel and Palestine that leads to a settlement. Wouldn’t be wonderful to know that Egypt could have free and fair elections without the resulting government immediately tearing up the Camp David agreements? Same for Jordan and their peace accord?
That’s the real math we’re dealing with here. You seem to want to pretend that America has no role, or that its role must be definitionally negative. Anti-imperialism is fine and dandy, but it’s not analysis.
“The key reason why we have opposed democratic reforms in the Middle East is because we were able to get the autocratic governments of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan to either make peace with Israel or to basically do nothing about their occupation.”
Is there any evidence for this? I ask because it seems completely implausible. Israel is not the main US interest in the Middle East. That would be the Gulf energy resources, which is why post-WWII the US has been determined to control the region, primarily by establishing and maintaining subservient client regimes. This explains, to take just one example, the US-backed coup against Mossadegh, carried out well before Israel assumed its role as US spear-carrier.
In fact US support for conservative, often brutal, client regimes extends well beyond the Middle East. Central America is a case in point, where, as Thomas Carothers (director of the Carnegie Endowment Program on Law and Democracy and Reagan State Department official who worked on ‘democracy promotion’ in Latin America) observes, the US often sought to maintain “the basic order of … quite undemocratic societies” to avoid “populist-based change” that might upset “established economic and political orders”.
In other words, US policy in the Middle East is perfectly in line with its policies elsewhere. Israel doubtless plays a role, but I see no evidence that the US would desire democracy in the Middle East were it to disappear.
you might be right about that in the case of Saudi Arabia. Everywhere else in the region I think we would prefer elections if only those elections did not result in anti-American governments.
But, why would elections result in anti-American governments? You know the answer.
Latin America is different. You may have noticed that starting in the late 1980’s, every dictatorship in Latin America disappeared, with the acceptance and even enthusiasm of American politicians.
American politicians still get upset when Latin American politicians nationalize industries or unilaterally renegotiate contracts, but aside from a failed 2002 coup in Venezuela, we have given up on overthrowing governments there. I don’t see Obama reviving the practice.
It’s true that dictatorships are often more stable and willing to cut more favorable deals to American businesses than democracies. And it’s true that American policy sometimes reflects that. But a quick look at our history with Egypt and Jordan should tell you that our primary goal with them was to make them client states during the Cold War. So, denying their markets to the Soviets was numero uno. Numero dos was, post Camp David, protecting that agreement.
“But, why would elections result in anti-American governments? You know the answer.”
Israel is certainly a big part of the answer, although by no means all of it. But the U.S. has not simply feared (and opposed) “anti-American” governments – the primary threat to US control in the Middle East and elsewhere has been what the NYT derided, in its celebration of the Mossadegh coup, as “fanatical nationalism”, namely: a government that responds to the needs of its population rather than to those of US elites. A government does not have to be “anti-American” for the US to oppose it, it just needs to undermine US control by threatening to pursue a more independent path.
As for Latin America, in fact the US still interferes, sometimes heavily, in its ‘backyard’. It’s true that the US’s capacity for overt military intervention has been substantially diminished, not least by popular organisation in both the US and Latin America, but that is hardly by choice. If the US had had its way, as you point out, Venezuela would in all probability currently be living under a quasi-fascist tyranny in the mould of Gen. Pinochet.
Thomas Carothers also studied US ‘democracy promotion’ efforts in the post-Cold War period, and he found a “strong line of continuity” that runs contrary to your summary here:
So sure, if the populations of the Middle East could be trusted to vote into power regimes that would be subservient to US interests, then the US would promote democracy. But given how strategically important the region is – “a stupendous source of strategic power, and one of the greatest material prizes in world history”, as the State Department put it – the US isn’t going to take any chances. The strategy thus far has been to arm local client regimes and rely on them to keep their populations in check, a strategy I don’t see changing even were there to be a two-state settlement.
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In your own backyard in present tense … Bolivia and Peru.
"But I will not let myself be reduced to silence."
What an epic attempt at coy wishful thinking by Señor Booman! Almost worthy of the US State Department! Note: since you are tapped out: at Foggy Bottom they will pay you for producing this sort of “analysis”.
Yes: wouldn’t it be wonderful to have a democratic Egypt that wouldn’t immediately tear up the Camp David agreement? Oh indeed! Why does this remind me not only of GW Bush, but also of Ghastly Max Baucus daydreaming back on the ranch in Montana: wouldn’t it be wonderful to have a public option in healthcare reform that is not in fact a public option at all, but merely looks like one?
What you are saying is that Obama’s “extended hand” is basically a confidence trick. Armed with that analysis you could also sign up as an (again, preferably paid) adviser to Ayatollah Khamenei, who is known to fear exactly that.
Since you keep putting “defeated” in quotes and then arguing as if that’s what Booman said, I searched for the word on the page, thinking my ever-erratic perceptions had failed again. Not there. It’s you who want to talk about the issue solely in binary military terms.
I think the point was that Obama might have changed, or be capable of changing, the atmosphere enough for both sides to relax a little and maybe try some movement toward agreement. Like it or not, it does matter what America’s doing — that’s why most of the world celebrated the end of Bush so enthusiastically. You’re the one calling that “defeat”.
I do have to agree that “our adversaries” was an ill-considered buy-in to propaganda frames.
He’s just pointing out logical stretches in what I wrote, which is perfectly fine. I was a bit lazy in places in this piece.
… via the defeat of Hezbollah and Ahmedinejad Obama “will have removed several arguments” — does that not imply a central role in those defeats? To me it seemed to and since that fit neatly into my general argument…
Yes. They’re not playing good cop bad cop. They’re playing us for fools. Clinton is not performing a hollywood skit or a TV news comedy. She and Gates and the bunch hold the lives of millions in their hands: sounds melodramatic, well, think about it. And if Obama is hiding behind Clinton’s skirt, he can’t be trusted. They’re setting us up for the Netanyahu scenario so colorfully enacted by a former presidential candidate in a ‘Bomb Iran’ skit. As along as I’ve been alive (63 years) the U.S. has been at war somewhere, even if only on some insignificant Carribean island. And now there are two wars and then there were three. Miss Rice also had the knack of exaggerating to get her way. She had Saddam dropping nukes which he never had on the U.S., and Mrs. Cliinton has Iran dropping nukes which they don’t have on Israel. So what’s the differnece? Motives and intent? Ha!
This is meant for Daredevil Don upthread.
“Oui was absolutely right when he applauded earlier that the Booman Tribune has been a rare US liberal site where the Palestinian issue wasn’t automatically off-limits. I too applaud that.” – Guthman
So do I. I often refer to this column by Orli Fridman: A day will come when we will be ashamed in my blogs, perhaps to quieten my fears whenever I was blogging about the I/P conflict – fear of being accused of anti-semitism, fear of seeing government officials at my door coming to seize my computer, fear for my relatives in case they become associated with my activism & are penalized in their career. The only place where I did not have that fear was when I blogged at Booman who will have nothing to be ashamed of when the time comes.
The situation is heating up: Peled proposes Israeli sanctions on US [via Mondoweiss]
If Israel ever votes sanctions against the US, then, without hesitation the US should reduce or eliminate the three billion dollar subsidy it provides Israel with each year. We would be big time wimps, indeed, if we caved in to this threat.