Carl Hulse and Jeff Zeleny report in the New York Times:
Given hardening Republican opposition to Congressional health care proposals, Democrats now say they see little chance of the minority’s cooperation in approving any overhaul, and are increasingly focused on drawing support for a final plan from within their own ranks.
Up to this point, there has been a need in the Democratic caucus for useful idiots. What are useful idiots, you ask? Those are the people who express dissatisfaction with the president’s plan in an effort to gain credibility as cross-aisle negotiators. Put it this way. If Kent Conrad’s co-op plan could have brought over a few Republican votes, it would have made it easy to pass a health care reform and lessened the heat on vulnerable Democrats that vote in favor of the bill. Yes, the bill’s effectiveness might have been harmed as a result, but passing a major reform with bipartisan support would have been worth it.
The Republicans appear to be calculating that they can pick off a not insignificant number of House seats (and a Senate seat or two) if the Democrats are compelled to force through health care reform without any votes from the Republicans to provide them some cover. This became obvious when the Republicans went after even Kent Conrad’s plan.
Even as the administration showed some flexibility, angering liberal Democrats who consider a public plan essential, Republicans turned their attacks from the public option to the health care cooperative idea being promoted by some Senate Democrats.
In what Democrats regarded as further evidence that Republicans were not serious about negotiating, Mr. Kyl and Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia, the second-ranking House Republican, described a co-op as a public option carrying another name.
The good thing is that this kills the logic of the co-op plan. If it doesn’t attract any Republican votes then it isn’t something worth pursuing.
The problem now is in getting 60 Democrats to show up and vote for cloture on the health care bill. That will be a tall order. But it just got a little bit easier. There is no more need for useful idiots and they can return to the fold.
Look at this;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/19/barney-frank-confronts-wo_n_262682.html
They have no shame, they are fools. And they should be treated as such.
nalbar
Why does Barney Frank hate dining room tables?
Booman, that is a real funny remark. Keep up your fine work.
LOL.
frank is great for caustic one-liners like that. Is there a youtube available? the crooks and liars vid I’ve seen doesn’t have embed code.
nalbar
You really think they’ll return to the fold? Well, I guess we’ll see.
I said they ‘can,’ I didn’t say they will.
Nobody ever lost betting on the Democrats folding.
…oh wait. The Republicans lost doing just that.
To this point it’s looked like Obama has been played. But perhaps he’s just rope-a-doping; getting the opposition to show their cards, while calcifying Democrat support?
I still have hope.
At this point, I wonder how Max Baucus is feeling about his buddy Chuck Grassley’s antics.
“Yes, the bill’s effectiveness might have been harmed as a result, but passing a major reform with bipartisan support would have been worth it.”
Why would passing a bad bill with bipartisan support be worth it?
It seems to me far better to pass a good bill with no bipartisan support, and Obama’s failure to recognize that early on is the problem.
Perhaps witht this move wayward Democrats will feel some pressure to move back to the path of real reform.
Screw 60 votes — only 50 are required. If Bush and a republican congress can pass huge tax cuts with reconciliation, then the dems can pass health care using the same process. What goes around, comes around…
It’s time for Obama to get his LBJ on: now that the GOP has demonstrated what everyone already knew – they have no interest in constructively working on this legislation – Obama needs to ram single-payer through and mobilize his supporters against any Dem in Congress who balks. Line up primary challengers for those up for election in 2010 have his supporters max out to the challenger of each senator who votes against single-payer.
He’s done the Mr. Nice Guy thing, it’s time to pull out the brass knuckles that he surely learned how to wield on the South Side of Chicago…
the gutless Democrats were using BI-PARTISANSHIP as a way to weasel their way out.
now, they don’t have any excuses.
stop the bullshytting and vote for cloture.
Voting for cloture could eventually be the ONLY solution to the failure of bipartisanship. Although the President, Baucus and so many other Democrats, Blue Dog or other, have tried to get something that would bring in some Republicans, the obvious fact is IT AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN. We are in an era of tribalism, and the conservative tribe is going to do anything it can to destroy the current majority.
Why we continue to fall for their crap is beyond me.
-btchakir
Under The LobsterScope
Without the repug fig leaf, the WH has lost its cover with progressives for its coming surrender to the insurance and big pharma lobbyist.
Looks like we need to be more vigilant these days.
I found another this morning – won’t link to it but it is in the “Gaming Out September” story on the front page.