Watch.
Four articles today (Mon., 4/4/11) tell the tale:
1-Obama starts 2012 campaign before potential rivals
2- Hillary Clinton now most popular figure in Obama administration
3-John Phillips: Why Hillary Clinton must run in 2012
4-OH, HILL NO-Obama’s indecision on Libya has pushed Clinton over the edge
Read `em.
In order.
I dare ya.
Read ’em and weep, leftinesses.
Here’s what’s up.
The primaries just started.
Obama’s cranking up his official campaign.
“Presidential” style.
You know…above it all? Like he’s got a lock on it? (It worked the first time, right? Why not try it again now that he really is the President. Kinda sorta.)
Hillary is sniping from the bushes. Like them ‘Murican revolutionaries used t’do when there were still bushes from behind which they could snipe. The mighty Clinton Wurlitzer…the leak machine…is sounding its first serious notes. Hillary’s recent announcement of her intent to retire from her current position as Secretary of State was the first movement of this performance.
The Prelude.
Wait’ll you hear the fugue!!!
We’re just getting started here, folks.
Watch.
It’s gonna get interesting.
Real soon.
Unless the Middle East calms down very quickly…fat chance of that happening, by the way…Obama’s approval ratings are going to start to look Like George Butch’s in 2007/2008.
As in “abysmal.”
And the middle class/working class will be hearing from their champeen, Ms. Clinton.
Foreign affairs?
I TOL’ ya!!!
The successful right wing attacks on unions?
I TOL’ ya!!!
The threat of an even more successful 2012 right wing assault on the federal and state governments in the face of a passive and ever-weaker Obama whose sole strength is his ability to talk the good talk?
I TOL’ ya!!!
Watch.
Well…yeah. I do want to retire and be a grandmother.
But…
I TOL’ ya!!!
Watch.
Margaret Thatcher redux.
MOMMY!!!
Watch.
AG
Watch.
It’s on.
AG
they will certainly lose.
your HILL NO link isn’t taking me to an actual article. Location may have moved.
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Link
Changed. It’s working now.
Thank you, Booman.
AG
Uh huh, whatevs – it’s about as persuasive as those “scientific” claims of pre-planned charges to bring down the WTC. But whatever floats your boat.
Watch.
I have been right..and wrong…before.
Right more often than wrong, however.
Watch.
AG
The recent quite public disagreements inside of the Obama administration between Clinton/Dept. of State and Obama/Office of the President regarding how to handle the newly aflame Middle East are a sign of something brewing.
Something big.
The federal government is not a monolith. Rather, it is a set of competing forces that do not always break down into easily seen so-called “party lines”. The fact that Obama did not…could not, in my opinion…smack down Hillary Clinton when her envoy to Mubarak (Frank Wisner Jr., the crown prince of a CIA family) flatly and publicly contradicted the official U.S. line regarding the happenings in Egypt says to me that he lacks sufficient confidence in his own power within the government to be able to do so. The subsequent leak/counter-leak media war over how to proceed in Libya is further evidence of that problem in my opinion. And Obama is losing that competition. By the numbers.
Once again…from the above referenced article Hillary Clinton now most popular figure in Obama administration:
There are other polls that show Obama’s approval ratings already down into the low 40% area.
Now it is my considered opinion that all polls are skewed in whatever directions that their makers wish them to be skewed, but that said, they are also opinion makers.
And Obama is losing the opinion-making battle.
Big time.
Now here comes the problem.
The Dems do not have another viable candidate other than Hillary Clinton, and if they lose…and lose big…in 2012 (Not just the presidency but congress and a number of governorships as well) they are shit out of luck.
Maybe forever.
Finished.
Kaput.
Done.
Have you any dea how many billions of dollars have been siphoned into the making and continuation of the Democratic Party by hugely powerful corporate interests and other power blocs like the unions and certain parts of the intelligence and military communities? Do you know how badly the nascent far right wing movement in the U.S. frightens the semi-socialist European bloc?
Lots of power wants to continue the Dem rule. Lots of it. That’s how Obama won in the first place. They bet on him. Like hiring a manager/general manger for a baseball team. And you know what happens when a baseball team starts to lose, right? Managers get changed. Pretty damned quickly.
Watch.
The informal Board of Supervisors for the PermaGov is consulting as we speak.
And so on.
Dither dither dither.
But rest assured…they will do something.
May you be born into interesting times.
And further…may you understand them.
Bet on it.
AG
You CAN’T be serious. Is this just a late April Fool’s joke? You’re taking ONE poll and the Wisner flap to mean Hillary is planning to primary Obama? She’s not an idiot, you know. There hasn’t been a successful primarying of a president since 1884 and that eventually ended with defeat in the election. And why do you pick one poll for it’s rather weak and attenuated ammunition while ignoring the ones which show that Obama is actually quite popular among large segments of the population and when compared to any generic Republican or all of his potential opponents wins hands down? Hillary first and foremost is a very good politician and she’s not stupid enough to dip her toe in that pool. Plus, she’s said quite explicitly that she’s not running for public office again. Now, if you were to tell me she has the inside track on Justice Ginsburg’s seat on the Supreme Court, then you might get my attention.
Your naivete is not uncommon.
Have you ever heard of the term “suspension of disbelief?” It is what one does when consuming a fictional piece of art…a movie, a novel, a play…
You know that the characters are not “real,” but you pretend that they are.
Well…suspend that suspension regarding how politics really works in the U.S. today.
A suspension of “belief” is what is needed.
You say ” There hasn’t been a successful primarying of a president since 1884 and that eventually ended with defeat in the election.”
1884!!!???
It’s a new world, bubba or bubbette. Wake the fuck up.
I could rewrite your sentence thusly.
“There has been only one a successful presidential run by a non-Protestant since the beginning of the U.S. system and that eventually ended in assassination.”
Or:
“There wasn’t a major presidential candidate of non-European lineage until Obama.”
The molds are breaking. Been breaking since the early ’60s, and the change is accelerating.
If Obama is told to step the fuck down, he will probably do so. Disobedience can result in serious injury, y’know.If he loses the confidence of the kingmakers he will become just another non-white college professor with a little more money than most. The primary show might go on for a while, but it is the media that makes presidents now and the media is owned by the kingmakers.
The game is over if they say it’s over.
Watch.
AG
Here’s the bad news. Hillary can’t tell a joke. So fagetit.
I thought that was very well done, actually. Considering the kind of pressure under which she was working and the fact that she is not really a “natural” campaigner…that was Bill’s gig, the flesh pressing. Remember? (No joke intended. But then…intent is not really necessary for something to be funny, is it?)
She laid it out very gently.
Whats not to like? Besides of course a bad case of the leftiness “I hate her guts!!!” disease.
Which disease helped to bring us this weak, centrist tool who resently occupies the Oval Office. If we must have a crporate tool in there…and that’s a given as far as I am concerned…I’d rather it be a strong one, myself.
Bu…what do I know?
Jes’ sayin’…
AG
Why bad news, AG? Is there much at stake between one & the other? Are you figuring that the Right will be more successful against Hillary in the general than they would be against Obama?
If the presidency, as you assert, is not decided by the electorate, there’s really not much to do about it, is there? If the people have no dog in the fight, might as well just think about prepping the garden.
I’m not being snarky here at all. Just looking past the curtain, if that’s what we’re doing.
Bad news for the leftiness clones that fell for Obama’s line in 2007/2008, wilderness wench. Actually, I believe that Hillary Clinton would be more successful in dealing with the right. She would attack rahter than compromise. I mean…when you get right down to it, being less successful than Obama in this area would be almost impossible. A quick look at what has happened in the U.S. since 2008 for all you need to know on that subject.
As far as the rest of your post is concerned…retiring to the garden is certainly a tempting option. However, as I have been saying here for quite some time the political process is on every level a matter of vectors. Multiple forces push in multiple directions, and the various directions that the government takes is a resultant of the totality of those forces.
The PermaGov…the corporate powers and their employees/hirelings/co-conspirators in both political parties, the media and the military/intelligence/diplomatic corps…responds to these pushes and pulls from without. It only tries to do the possible, and parsing those various “possibilities” is a very fine art. That’s what polls and poll-reading are really about. Every one of us has a voice; every bloc has some power, and every voice influences certain blocs. A couple of extra political pound-feet of pressure in one direction or another can be the difference between a near-miss collision and one that is cataclysmic.
At least…that’s what I tell myself when I begin to consider the garden option.
Make your own choices here. Choosing gardening rather than speaking out contributes to a set of vectors as well.
Your choice.
All of our choices?
The United States of America.
Push and pull, pull and push.
So it goes.
Walk away?
Someone else’s choices do the deed instead.
So that goes as well.
Bet on it.
Later…
AG
Got it. Thank you. Always interested in seeing beyond the obvious — most particularly in the form of action — & so appreciate your thoughts, as always.
This is insane. And just when would she announce this? This wouldn’t be like Teddy challenging Carter from the left. I just don’t see it.
Politics is insane.
A point could very easily be made that the United States itself is insane.
8 years of George Butch was insane.
The theft of two elections,,,supported by the Supreme Court and the media and acceded to by those who were (supposedly) on the short end of that theft stick…is insane.
The “Arrrhg!!!”-ing of Howard Dean was insane.
Nuclear power is insane.
Nuclear weapons are insane.
Nominating (and then electing) a relatively inexperienced Senator over a tried-and-true close quarters political combatant was insane.
And you think that a primary where that tried-and-true political combatant opposes a failed president when the only other option is another group of totally batshit insane post-Bush Ratpublicans that is being well controlled by the equally insane Tea Partiers is somehow out of the question?
I got a nuke plant in Japan to sell ya if that’s your position.
Barely damaged.
Just like Obama.
Lissen up.
If the media can sell George Butch, the Iraq War, fast food chain grub and Big Pharma’s seemingly inexhaustible chain of endless poisons…it can sell any damned thing that it wants to sell.
Hillary Clinton?
A fucking cinch.
Bet on it.
Watch.
AG
President… what do you think her first policy pushes might be? pro choice or supporting the pro “life” people? gay marriage? etc. socially liberal, or not so much?
can you imaging Obama stepping out of the race “for family reasons” or some such, if the kingmakers tell him he’s out? or do you see him trying to fight to get a second term?
wildcard: do you think Ron Paul would run, if Mrs Clinton runs? (or do you think he will no matter what?)
The plot of this ongoing soap opera is beyond prediction, martini. But if the kingmakers decide that they need another front man (or woman), they can get it done.
One way or another.
Or (shudder) even a third way.
Watch.
Ron Paul?
Not a chance.
The media will not allow it.
Too dangerous.
I mean…he might run. He’s stubborn enough. But he won’t win. Not enough corporate support.
Now…Bloomberg?
If he decides to go…and I’m not saying that he will…but if he decides to jump in he is a whole ‘nother kettle of fish.
He is corporate America. He can damned well support himself if need be. And large parts of corporate America trust him. He’s certainly proven his worth to them many times over.
Rock the boat?
Not.
Watch.
AG
I would never expect Ron Paul to WIN. The machine would eat itself before it allows someone so intent on revealing the truth to get under their curtains. No way, no how.
But, if he even runs he starts to ask questions that get feisty people riled up, which may get a few curtains yanked down anyway….
Could happen, martini.
Anything could happen, truth be told.
It’s a very…ummm…”fluid”…situation politically both in the U.S. and in much of the rest of the world as well.
An emerging non-white majority here…it’s coming, folks. Bet on it.
A nascent U.S. far-right movement that is at least partially a reaction to the new racial ratios in the country.
The traditional “right” beginning to panic over the whole Tea Party movement almost as much as the traditional left.
A continuing breakdown of the media control apparatus through ever-burgeoning, tech-driven possibilites. UH oh!!! There goes that TV network/Big Publication-driven middle!!!
All of Japan in partial meltdown at the moment. On every level. Bet on that as well.
The whole of North Africa and the Middle East literally aflame from Libya all the way westward through Pakistan. Oil Central.
Most of the European/U.S./Nato axis in retrograde inversion economically. Oil is an important key to that problem.
UH oh!!!
Anything can happen.
Watch.
AG
There won’t be a credible candidate within the Democratic Party who will run against the Prez’. Now ask me if there might be a credible candidate running as a true independent (yes).
Another possibility, of course. Maybe even a couple of them.
It won’t be Hillary Clinton, though.
She’s either a Dem or she’s outta there.
For sure.
AG
I’d rather have Hillary than Obama She’s smarter than he is that’s for sure.