How’s this for talking smack?
President Obama’s campaign team said Tuesday that its on-the-ground efforts to turn out voters are much greater than rival Mitt Romney’s — and will make their own renowned ground game of four years ago seem prehistoric — a tactical advantage that could add a point or two at the ballot box in key swing states on election day.
“We’re going to make 2008 on the ground look like ‘Jurassic Park,’ ” said campaign manager Jim Messina, at a panel hosted by ABC News and Yahoo. “They just don’t have what we have.”
I gotta look into this…
Here’s a graph to add to this post. It really illustrates the vast number of OfA sites compared to Romney and unless I’m mistaken, it sure is heck gonna take more than 2 months for Romney to catch up to this even with all his money and all his Mormon foot soldiers.
“Obama’s Ground Game”
http://mischiefsoffaction.blogspot.ie/2012/09/the-asymmetric-ground-game.html
… it sure is heck gonna take more than 2 months for Romney to catch up to this even with all his money and all his Mormon foot soldiers.
That last part is the big question. Just look at what they supposedly did in Wisconsin for the recall election.
I’ve never heard of this, and can’t find anything in the google machine. (I think I should have put diesel in it.)
Were there Mormons canvassing for Scott Walker?
I’m not finding anything about Mormons doing anything like that in Wisconsing. However, LDS was involved in that way in the passage of Proposition 8 in California, November 2008:
“ProtectMarriage, the official proponent of Proposition 8, estimates that about half the donations they received came from Mormon sources, and that LDS church members made up somewhere between 80% and 90% of the volunteers for early door-to-door canvassing.[68] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints produced and broadcast to its congregations a program describing the support of the Proposition, and describing the timeline it proposes for what it describes as grassroots efforts to support the Proposition.[69]”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8
Add to this, NH has 7 Romney offices and 20 Obama offices.
Field offices are a better investment for Democrats that media. There is a lot of organizational rebuilding and downticket promotion that one can do out of a field office that one can’t do solely through media.
The media buy should come when the work in the field office puts another state in play.
THD, I cannot tell you the level of admiration I have for some of the volunteers in local field offices here in this part of Ohio. Their dedication and commitment in this overwhelmingly Republican area is inspiring. They know what is at stake in this election. It cannot be overstated. Many people will consider it to only be so much hyperbole, but we know that this is a very critical juncture for the well being of the middle class and how this country will look going forward.
Here in my part of Ohio, I have been a canvass volunteer. And all I can say that there have been new people every week who come out and I have been asked to train them. Today I received a call from a new Field Director in an adjacent county, who just arrived in from the west coast. We are having lunch on Friday to discuss and help formulate his plans for his area. Now I wasn’t involved at this level in 2008, so I have no point of reference. But I can say, there is an increasing saturation effort in this very red part of the state. The focus is very intense.
As word gets out that the Obama administration believes it can order the killing of any American he wants with no evidence, has chosen not to prosecute anyone for the torture that went on in Iraq and Afghanistan, and signed a free trade agreement that will gut the American working class, I’m sure volunteers will be pouring in to his campaign offices!
Most jobs created during Obama’s presidency hardly pay anything, so it’s not like people will lose much by taking time off to volunteer!
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/business/majority-of-new-jobs-pay-low-wages-study-finds.html?_r=1
Oh, look, you just found an excuse why it doesn’t matter that you’re wrong.
Yawn.
Wake the fuck up, Booman.
If Obama loses this thing, his compliance with the ongoing surveillance state/corporate state/drone state takeover of America will be Reason Number One!!!
“Yawn!!!???”
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Really.
Thousands…tens of thousands, more than likely…dead and many hundreds of thousands more lives ruined over the past 4 years of economic imperialist war in the Middle East/North Africa/Afghanistan/Pakistan/Absurdistan.
An ongoing legitimization of the worst elements of the U.S./PermaGov financial system.
An N.D.A.A. bill that potentially shreds all of the so-called “rights” of American citizens to dissent under the protection of freedom of speech.
And all that you can say is “Yawn!!!???”
At long last, sir. Have you left no sense of decency??
Have you no shame in your pursuit of partisan politics?
What happened to the “Frog march ’em to the gallows” idea?
Really.
Are Ratpublicans the only criminals?
I think not.
“Yawn!!!???”
I give up.
What happened to you, man?
What happened to you?
AG
I believe the yawn was offered to the author more than the “content” of the author’s post…
Actually, it’s both.
The content was pretty unoriginal and stupid.
Believe what you wish. As you must.
The ongoing descent of this site into a totally partisan, totally immoral word-spew for the left-wing-of-the-right-wing so-called “progressive” movement totally disgusts me.
It really does.
And it should disgust you, too.
“Winning” by becoming a better version of the enemy is not my idea of progress.
Walt Kelly pinned it decades ago.
Bet on it.
Bet on it.
AG
you remind me of someone who goes out to dinner with friends and then can”t decide between the veal or the fish because, “oh, God, the cruelty!”, and so he orders nothing, breaks down in tears, and scolds his friends for feasting on death.
Just shut up and order already. You can work on replacing the chef later.
And you remind me of someone who has sold his soul to the devil for the reward of a bit of temporary middle-class survival.
Remember, Booman…everything has a price.
Everything.
When you wake up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night? (And I hope that you do…it would indicate that you are not yet totally lost.)
Remember.
Everything has its price.
Pay now or pay more later.
Inflation is in action on all levels. Been there; paid the price already. No debts left on that level. No doubts, either.
Honor above all.
Bet on it.
AG
We’re both artists.
You kill your fascists and I’ll kill mine.
That Uncle Joe was a son of a bitch, but…
And if that ain’t clear enough, none of us gets out alive. Not pure, anyway.
Your are all Pigs: Three Different Ones when you should be The Fletcher Memorial Home.
Arthur, now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their Party.
When you are about to go into battle, it is not time to dwell on the morals of the commander. It’s time to check your gear, tape two magazines together, swallow your gorge and get into the chopper trying not to look scared.
This all depends on exactly who it is that you think that you are fighting.
The RatPubs?
Yeah.
OK.
I can see that.
But what if “my side” is just another false flag op?
What then?
UH oh!!!
(Where I’m at presently. Bet on it.)
AG
Sometimes the lesser evil really is a lot less.
Arthur, I think you will be very interested in this:
http://www.alhambrapartners.com/2012/09/04/history-repeats-itself-because-no-one-was-listening-the-f
irst-time/
Especially the part about how Republicans have promised these things since 1952!
STFU, Arthur. There’s nothing worse than being a bore.
I don’t know where you got it in your mind that our troops under Obama are engaged in the mass murder of tens or hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. But they are not.
I don’t want to defend what we’re doing in Afghanistan because I don’t believe in our mission and I’ve never wavered from that. But your rhetoric is foolish.
What else did I yawn at? That our South Korean free trade agreement is going to decimate our middle class. That is another foolish idea.
Oh…yeah, also boring….the fact that the torturers weren’t prosecuted. So, vote for Romney.
I don’t have time for such simple-minded tripe.
Get some perspective and then do something interesting.
Simple-minded?
Could be.
We shall see soon enough.
The concept of “Honor above all.”
Simple minded?
Maybe.
I think not, myself.
I am conducting my own “experiments with truth” on whatever levels are available to me.
Deal wid it.
You state:
It’s not just “troops” who kill people, Booman.
Policies kill people.
In Cuba.
In South/Central/Caribbean America.
In Africa.
In the Islamic world.
In S.E. Asia and the Pacific Rim.
At home in Chicago, Detroit, Camden, NJ and wherever else the PermaGov runs its nasty game.
You disagree?
You have very short sight.
Wake the fuck up.
A scam can only be run so far before the marks wake the fuck up. And then? And then there is hell to pay.
Watch.
Watch.
Honor above all.
Or…deal wid the chickens when they come home to roost.
Bet on that as well.
What goes around comes around.
You think not?
On the basis of the entire history of mankind…who’s simple-minded now?
Hmmmm…
AG
Arthur, nice try but you know full well that if he loses it will be because the economy isn’t great and not for any of the reasons you mentioned. I agree with you that they are important but let’s not kid ourselves on whether folks in the mushy middle give a rat’s ass about most of that stuff.
I myself am ready to suffer if that’s what it takes for the truth to out.
You?
Maybe the “folks in the the mushy middle” needs a little heat to firm up.
We shall see, soon enough.
Yes we will.
More okey-doking from the Dems or the hard reality of red meat corporate greed let loose from the Rats.
Some set of choices, eh?
Tighten your seatbelts, folks. Either way it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.
AG
better than Democrats being scared of their shadows
My god, yes.
Ignoring the detour this comment thread took …
This is a very interesting statement. I was very much a part of 2008, but not involved with 2012. However, I get a lot of contacts from the 2012 people.
I don’t know enough to compare at this point – perhaps no one does except the top organizers, since we have yet to start the post-convention sprint. But my limited view into what’s happening suggests the two following counter-balancing trends:
However, (1) probably more than compensates for (2). To be honest, I think that after the registration deadline passed Obama had too many volunteers to be used effectively. We had so much wasted effort due to over-contacting people.
To me the most critical period will be before registration deadlines, as that will be necessary to counteract the Jim Crow polling tax laws being enacted. The second most critical period will be in the week before voting begins in those states where voting periods were selectively reduced under the same Jim Crow laws. If the Jim Crow laws will be neutralized I think Obama wins this easily (though not by the same margins Boo is predicting) barring an unforeseen politically disastrous event.
What are other volunteers from 2008 seeing from the 2012 volunteer effort?