It has been widely reported (e.g., in the National Review) that in January, Speaker Boehner had to promise his caucus a vote on a budget that balances in 10 years in order to get them to agree to extend the debt ceiling.
According to sources in the room, Boehner made the pledge at a closed-door meeting in the Capitol basement. The speaker said that Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the budget committee chairman, will lead the effort.
Boehner’s commitment is a signal to conservatives that the speaker is listening to their demands. Behind the scenes, backbenchers have been pushing Boehner and Eric Cantor, the majority leader, to endorse a 10-year balanced budget.
On Wednesday, insiders say, most Republican lawmakers will begrudgingly back a three-month extension of the debt limit. But before Boehner could finalize the whip count, he needed to make this fiscal assurance in return.
It seems to have been a concession that was wrung out of Boehner during the party’s January retreat in Williamsburg.
…Speaker John Boehner reached out to five of his smartest and most influential conservative members—Reps. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, Jeb Hensarling of Texas, Tom Price of Georgia, Jim Jordan of Ohio, and Steve Scalise of Louisiana—with a simple request: Come up with a plan to unite the conference and hide the ideological cracks that surfaced over the past two years.
Having heard from this Conservative Jedi Council, Boehner met in mid-January with all Republican members at a retreat in Williamsburg, Va. There, after a lengthy back-and-forth over the direction they should take in the months ahead, Boehner extended an olive branch. The speaker promised members that his leadership team was committed to advancing their goals in the 113th Congress. He would uphold the sequester, allowing for reprioritization. He would push a 10-year balanced budget. He would hold the line against further tax hikes. In return, Boehner requested enough votes to temporarily raise the debt ceiling.
So, this is plain and simple, and everyone should be able to understand it. House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s column in the Wall Street Journal, announcing his 10-year plan to balance the budget is disingenuous. His budget plan is not serious. The plan is merely a concession that Boehner made to the most conservative members of his caucus to prevent them from forcing the country into default and thereby destroying our credit rating and the global economy. Remember that when you read Ryan explain why he’s trying to balance the budget in 10 years.
Yet the most important question isn’t how we balance the budget. It’s why. A budget is a means to an end, and the end isn’t a neat and tidy spreadsheet. It’s the well-being of all Americans. By giving families stability and protecting them from tax hikes, our budget will promote a healthier economy and help create jobs. Most important, our budget will reignite the American Dream, the idea that anyone can make it in this country.
His budget is a means to an end, all right. It is the price sane pays to crazy to not destroy things. But the rest of us in the real world don’t have to take Ryan’s budget plan (much less the Republicans’ stupid ‘American Dream’ talking points in support of his budget plan) seriously in the least. It is a joke, and nothing more.
People will point out that the numbers don’t add up and that it’s a cruel document and that it’s insane and that it isn’t sound economics and that it relies on gimmicks. True. True. True. True. True. But it’s not even a budget Ryan and Boehner believe in. They aren’t pushing it because they think it’s good policy. I don’t even believe that they think it is good politics. They’re just trying to prevent their own guys from breaking shit.
That doesn’t mean that Boehner and Ryan aren’t responsible for this farce. They could go get the votes they need on the other side of the aisle. Or they could resign. Subjecting us to this mockery of governance and public debate is beneath the dignity of anyone who is worth a damn.
But it’s not even a budget Ryan and Boehner believe in.
I call bullshit!!! It might not be a plan The Tan Man believes in, but it is certainly one that The Zombie-eyed Granny-starver believes in.
No, it’s not.
I agree. As best I can tell, the only thing Ryan believes in is Paul Ryan. That makes him little different than many other politicians except that he’s really good at lying with a charm that to some looks sincere. And that makes him potentially dangerous.
I say potentially because, as you’ve pointed out, this budget isn’t going anywhere and isn’t even intended to. It’s not clear this man is positioned to win the White House given national demographic trends and the fact that the Party of Tea keeps moving further and further into the wilds beyond sanity. Thus, as the country passes Ryan by, the Tea Party passes him by too. Already, there’s grumbling from those dark corners that he’s just another RINO. I think the culmination of crazy will occur when Cruz (or someone very much like him) manages to win the presidential nomination in 2016.
I disagree. I am quite certain that Ryan believes in starving grannies, in harming the undeserving needy, and in making the rich richer.
Ryan, unlike normal non-sociopathic humans, doesn’t give a fig about granny. To that extent, I agree with you. But I don’t think he particularly wants to starve them. He looks at you, me, granny and everyone else kind of the way an animal looks at a rock it needs to climb over or around. It’s all part of an agenda to advance Paul Ryan for the sake of Paul Ryan.
W was very much the same. Start a war to be a “war president.” If a few (million) people get hurt or killed, oh well.
How do you know? He keeps putting out crap that has more holes than swiss cheese. He’s not a serious thinker. What don’t you understand?
His first radical extreme effort at writing a budget took 40 years to balance the budget. This one takes 10.
The first one was totally unrealistic from the perspective that the GOP would have NEVER proposed it if they were actually in power and able to enact it.
This one?
The same, four times over.
What’s happening is that the troglodytes actually believe all Ryan’s nonsense and their own talking points, not realizing that the GOP leadership says all that stuff only when they are out of power and that they aren’t actually serious about it.
If they can get a Democratic president to piss on his or her own base, they’ll try to force that, but they aren’t going to pass up the chance to spend money if they can direct where it goes.
Haven’t you learned this after 2 terms of Reagan and 3 terms of Bush?
Ryan is a bit of an ideologue, but for the cause. He’s in the leadership now. I’ll be interested to see if Ryan can even get this POS passed in the House.
I’ll be interested to see if Ryan can even get this POS passed in the House.
Why wouldn’t he? After all, Harry Reid is going to throw it on the floor and pee on it(I wish!!). It’s just like when the Walmart twins(Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor) voted for EFCA when W. was President, knowing that he’d never sign it into law in a million years.
Why?
Maybe he will pass it easily. I don’t really know.
But they barely passed their sequester-fix last year and couldn’t pass it again this year due to reduced numbers.
There is a limit to how many lawmakers want to vote for incredibly unpopular legislation that is never going to become law.
Lincoln and Pryor for legislation that was a mixed bag in their state and very popular with their base.
Voting for Ryan’s budget is ONLY popular with about 25% of the population, perhaps somewhat more in red districts, but it’s still like voting for the clap.
And that’s the OLD budget. The new one is like voting to guillotine yourself.
The new one is like voting to guillotine yourself.
So why is the Zombie-eyed Granny-starver even proposing it? So I’m not really sure what you’re getting at. Also, too, there is this:
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Paul_Ryan_Wrestles_With_Reality_And_Loses
To satisfy the wilder members of the caucus. They will support him if he supports this kind of stupid shit. On another level he keeps the hearts and minds(ok mindless) of the Joe Walsh followers. He needs to be their guy in 2016. He wants to be the not-Jeb Bush and the not-Marco Rubio. Not-Christie we can forget about. Christie is going nowhere nationally (not in the Republican Party) and was never going to go anywhere in Dixie. To paraphrase the old salsa commercial “New Jersey? Get a rope!”
” It is the price sane pays to crazy to not destroy things.” That is all kinds of awesome. It is also what Obama has been forced to do for the past three years. The relatively sane republicans need to recognize that enabling these crazy people only makes them worse. Time to become conservaDems and hand the gavel back to Nancy Smash.
A few Republicans may migrate to the Democratic party. Might be a good move for Christy but it’s not an effortless migration, easy as it is to alienate both sides. One has to seem truly sincere, as opposed to calculating. I think Christy can pull it off. Most cannot.
Those who cannot have to watch their right flank. For them, that’s the biggest challenge.
I think the best approach would be to make the shift in public disgust at what to much of the party has become. Very loud “those guys are crazy” plus “Hey, Dems are basically Eisenhower Republicans anyway.”
I really wish that today’s Democrats were as far Left as Eisenhower or even Nixon.
If there is no line-item detail, it is not a plan.
The President’s budget goes to line-item detail. The opposition counter-plan should do as much to be considered credible.
Then folks will know where the cuts would come.
But that’s the point isn’t it. Trying to maneuver the President into taking the political heat for the cuts. So the GOP can be protectors of of the public.
What a farce! No, it doesn’t even qualify as that.
This is simply not what”conservative” unless that word means greedy,stupid,and insensitive. The GOP seems to represent those who already have most of the wealth and won’t be pleased until they have it all.