The FBI is about to tell us at least some of what they know and the state of the investigation into the Boston Marathon bombing. Hopefully, once the briefing is over, we will be able to make some intelligent speculation about what happened and why. Then, maybe the media won’t be so irresponsible and infuriating. Maybe.
Update [2013-4-18 17:28:58 by Steven D]: Video of potential suspects released by FBI:
Links to photos:
Frankly, they only hold these briefings to keep the media appeased. Most of them offer little new information, unless you count correcting all the wrong rumors the news outlets have reported as true new info.
is it me or do these mean look distinctly NOT dark-skinned.
FYI, I fully expect the usual race baiters though to analyze every stereotype they can to try to profile these suspects to their expectations.
They look dark-skinned to me. North African or Lebanese would be my best guess.
Lord Boo, I can’ tell if you are kiddin’ or not.
I’m darker than those dudes and I decided NOT dark-skinned. I”m clsoer to Brown
It’s hard to tell, frankly. The white cap dude looks a lot different in the street-level photo than the aerial one.
dude. if u are serious, then man is ur white privelege showing. If these dudes are considered dark-skinned, then over 1/2 of the Black population in America are decidedly perturbed
I’m pale as can be, and they look white to me. Some Meditteranean features, perhaps, but white skin. My Irish/Portuguese kids are at least that dark. I think dark-skinned people have every right to be irritated here.
Neither back-pack looks like standard issue black either.
Suspect No. 1 was wearing a Bridgestone golf cap.
Ralph Lauren polo cap. From Reddit.
CNN Fail again: CNN: “You cant tell if these are Americans or not.” Um how do “Americans” look?
They have U.S.A. tattoed in red, white, and blue on their foreheads.
Lord, what’s in the water at CNN?
Flouride…and probably a little mescaline
wow. here’s how you can distinguish white people from people of color on this “dark-skinned” subject.
Majority of white people are saying, well you can’t really tell.
People of color are saying “Shit, I’m darker-skinned than these” guys!
White privelege?
No, they look like two white kids to me. Possibly late teens. So, please don’t generalize. I think Booman was the only person here saying he thought they might not be white.
Whether BooMan is right or not has nothing to do with privilege. What sort of “privilege” allows people not to see things clearly in a bad photograph?
I think you’re using big words to assert your superiority, which is bad enough when you aren’t misusing them.
Well, particularly Subject One, the guy with the black cap, has a darker complexion that your average Brit. The white cap guy is a closer call, but as I said elsewhere, his profile shows a pronounced bridge to his nose that is very straight and dark bushy eyebrows. While you will find Brits with those features, they are much more common far to the South and East.
I think black folks here dark-skinned and they think darker than the average black person in America, but what is really meant is simply darker than the average white person. And by white person they mean German, Scandinavian, or from the British Isles.
That’s what I thought you meant.
That’s pretty much what every person not looking to jump on some stranger on the internet and shout “Gotcha!” would understand you to mean.
Well, I’m more forgiving.
In the black community, dark-skin vs. fair skin is a distinction that has actual ramifications. Spike Lee famously explored that issue in his movie School Daze about college fraternities and historically black schools. So, dark-skin means very dark, like most Sub-Saharan Africans. In that context, these bombers are clearly not dark-skinned.
But it’s a cultural disconnect. Why do people care what color skin they have since they are obviously not black? It’s because we want to know if this it possibly an al-Qaeda attack or Islam-inspired attack. From that standpoint, these men could be Middle Eastern or Southeast Asian. We certainly can’t rule it out. They do not look, to me anyway, like northern Europeans.
Link to FBI website photographs:
http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/photos
Too many years reading Marcy; my first thought was that FBI was late in releasing these as they were setting up cell tracking in area with NSA with keyed in words like, “Man, FBI has videos of us”.
The cell towers are bound to be key in catching these guys.
Oh and I notice #2 has bowed legs and weaves thru crowd like he’s used to riding a motorcycle.
Oh my, it’s easy to get me going!
Angling for another career, are you? 🙂
He does have a distinctive walk. That should help.
#2 seems to have quite a resemblance to Paul Ryan in one of the FBI photos.
somebody called it elsewhere, but Mitt Romney’s on CNN and guess what he brought up?
You guessed it, his time running the Olympics
SMDH
Mittens just talk about your love of the city as a former governor and such.
how hard is that?
He can’t help the way he’s programmed. Give the sociopath robot a break, eh.
Aww, John King’s fee-fee’s are hurt. People have been mobbing him on twitter for his “dark-skinned” suspects moment.
and Nixon was not a crook.
THEY WHITE
THEY WHITE
THEY WHITE
BWA HA HA HA H AH HA HA HA HA
But on the serious side….
do you see how the MSM isn’t uttering TERRORIST ATTACK every 3 seconds now that these pics have been released.
I’m just sayin.
White? Brown? Black? Whatever?
Here is what can be seen on the videos…given of course the possibility that these two aren’t the real bombers and/or that the corporate media/PermaGov intelligence services aren’t running a grand game of some sort:
1-The first guy is well hidden. Cap down, hardly showing any skin. He also has what I would call a “neutral” gait. Besides his slightly above average walking speed in that particular crowded street system, he gives no clues as to his societal position other than his loose street/undergraduate/maybe suburban/hipster city gear look.
2-The second guy? A fool if he is up to something criminal. Cap backwards, his face and skin easy to see. So is his nose…it’s kinda big, if y’know what I mean. Plus he’s got what I would call a “state college tough guy” gait. Bowlegged, like he’s advertsing his white boy toughness despite his relatively small size. A second-rate college drinker/hanger-outer if I was checking out the street, a type that one sees in the hundreds on NYC streets every St. Patrick’s Day/New Year’s Eve. Given the Boston site, I’d say a Southie or some other lower-middle class working area, probably Irish. I’d see him and dismiss him as not an immediate threat except for one thing. He’s “’rounding” a little. Looking behind him, checking out his surroundings a little more than would an innocent asshole. I’d ID him…I’ve been walking the hardest streets of NYC for 40+ years as a musician, and I’ve never yet missed a chance to avoid trouble because I understand the street…I’d ID him as “wrong” to some degree. Maybe a pickpocket or a drug dealer. Maybe a lookout for some kind of scammer. Something wrong with him.
So…the smarter guy first guy is probably the boss, the second guy is the necessary asshole. A load-carrier.
Watch.
Betcha that’s somewhat the way it works out…if of course they are not both just another pair of PermaGov red herrings.
We shall see…to some degree…depending on the mainstream Fed hustle.
Watch.
Somebody’s going down, for sure.
You can bet on that.
Watch.
If they go down with no recourse?
Like…dead? Like Osama bin Laden, for example? Or Lee Harvey Oswald?
Stay awake.
It cold happen to you.
One way or another.
Watch.
AG
White cap dude is a little bow-legged, perhaps because he’s bow-legged or perhaps because he’s carrying the equivalent of two bowling balls in a one-strap manner, like a casual high school kid. The other dude is sensibly using both straps, making it easier to manage the load.
However, I can’t say that the kid looks Irish. He’s got a very straight and pronounced bridge to his nose and dark, bushy eyebrows. That’s why I said he looks like he has Mediterranean features. Since it’s obviously inflammatory to suggest the kid is an Arab or Muslim, I’ll leave it at that. He could easily have Italian, Spanish, Greek, Turkish heritage, but I’m not seeing Irish.
It’s the gait, not the nose.
AG
P.S. My grandfather…the real “AG”…had a nose just like that.
Irish as Paddys’ pig.
Just sayin’…
AG
P.S. Gait…walking style…is mostly societal. Neighborhood shit. There are no more “one race/one culture” neighborhoods. Very few, for sure. You belong to a crew, and that’s that. You learn to blend in.
Bet on it.
Michael Skolnik@MichaelSkolnik
just saw FBI photo without blurred faces. suspect #2 put backpack down right next to Martin Richard, who is in the photo.
I’m surprised by how young they look.
Take a look at this photo: http://i.imgur.com/I1dF69f.jpg
Suspect #2 is on the far left, just to the right of the fire alarm box, wearing his white cap.
This is a much clearer photo than the ones the FBI released, and that is very clearly a white kid.
I can’t say that I agree.
That picture seems no more conclusive than the others. At least, to me.
I think we’re having a semantics problem. To me, they don’t appear to be Northern European, but their skin is clearly white. We might be using “white” to mean different things.
I know it’s a sensitive subject because of the consequences. But the issue is really whether these kids are likely to be Muslim based on their ethnicity. No one, I presume, is disputing that they are not African-American.
To me, the white cap guy is quite possibly an Arab, although he could just as easily be Italian-American of Greek, so I can’t say one way or the other.
The black cap guy could be Indonesian, Malaysian, Hawaiian, or something else, but he sure doesn’t look like your average white dude.
And neither is wearing any disguises?
Suspect 1 – black cap – was wearing sunglasses and the brim of the cap left his face in shadow. His hands are hidden in his pockets.
Suspect 2 – white cap – allowed his face to be seen. Why would he do that? Particularly considering that his partner did the opposite? Why the cap on backwards? The better to show off his hair? Or should I say wig? Note, his hands are very white.
Thank you. That is more clear.