My first question for Byron York is whether or not he would prefer to have one big Republican civil war or four or five medium-sized civil wars. Mr. York seems to be making an effort to allay concerns that the GOP will break into two warring factions, but his words are not very comforting. He makes an interesting point that the fission points in the GOP on ObamaCare and national security and immigration and the debt ceiling (I might add disaster relief) include shifting and overlapping factions:
Perhaps the most striking thing about the immigration battle, in the context of the other intra-party conflicts now going on, is that the number of Republican senators who voted for the Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform bill — 14 – is barely larger than the dozen who support Mike Lee’s defunding Obamacare plan. But they are a different group. And those groups don’t line up precisely with the sides in the national security debate. Tom Coburn and John McCain were on different sides of the immigration vote, but they are united against the defunding Obamacare initiative. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz were also on opposing sides on immigration, but they are united in favor of defunding Obamacare. And Cruz, Rubio, and Lee joined Paul’s famous filibuster in which he mused about the possibility of U.S. government drone strikes against American cities — a filibuster Rubio’s immigration allies McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham bitterly opposed.
In each case, there are enough Republican senators available to work with the Democrats to either get things done or sustain current policy, but in each case the more radical faction is backed by the House Republicans, although the surveillance issue divides the House fairly evenly. The result is that nothing can be resolved. Either the House capitulates, gets rolled, or things stop working or don’t get done.
These fissures are preventing the GOP from making coordinated and concerted efforts, which renders Congress dysfunctional. To some degree, the Senate is operating as it should, with different minority coalitions coming forth on different issues to work with the majority. But, since the work of these coalitions gets blocked by the House, it winds up creating bitter recriminations within and between the Senate factions. And that makes cooperation within the Senate GOP less likely over time. When Sen. Burr (R-NC) says that Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) has the dumbest idea ever and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) accuses Lee of being dishonest, it’s hard to see how that could not lesson their degree of cooperation on other issues in the future.
Recent fireworks over national security between Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) and Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ) and Rep. Peter King (R-Long Island) cannot be fully understood without referring back to the delay in providing disaster relief for Superstorm Sandy. King and Christie are still furious at the libertarian faction for withholding aid, and it’s informing their war on Paul’s nascent presidential ambitions. Rep. King also famously told Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) to stay out of New York and told Manhattan donors to tell Rubio to take a flying leap. That, too, was a result of the disaster relief dispute.
This is an example of how medium-sized disputes can metastasize into larger ones. The result is that the GOP is trying to function without any central operating system. The civil war to worry about is between the GOP and the American public when we default on our debts and watch the government close down.
Getting ugly:
Why is this a problem?
Two what extent is all this Republican infighting just noise as far as the low information voter is concerned – and something really only the political pros, pundits and partisans worry about? How do we square reports of imminent Republican demise with MSM reports that republicans are almost certain to win the House and a good shot to win the Senate in 2014? Romney was an absolutely disastrous candidate, and still got 47% of the vote.
Yes there is corporate money, and CU and redistricting and voter suppression and gerrymandering and MSM news monopolies, but Republicans seem to win almost by default – Democrats only if they have an outstanding candidate or organisation or winning issue. It used to be said that the Fianna Fail party in Ireland could put up a donkey and still win the election. They same seems to be true for Republicans in most of the US…
It’s a problem not for the GOP necessarily, but for the country and the global economy. And that can become a problem for the GOP come election time.
One way of looking at it is to keep in mind that the Republicans threw away several seats in the Senate in 2010 and 2012 by nominating outright lunatics and misogynists. So whatever the advantages they enjoy, something is breaking down here. They’ve already suffered from self-inflicted wounds.
As far as the MSM and the polls about 2014, I think it’s too early to say. Polls are always based on certain assumptions and best guesses, and sometimes you reach a point where things go nonlinear and it becomes harder and harder to keep track of all the variables. For instance, do Nate Silver’s models have a way to account for the return of open racism in the GOP?
(I’m not picking on Nate Silver, by the way. I think he’d agree. When asked, he estimated the Republicans’ chances of winning the Senate next year at 50/50, but immediately added that it’s really too early to say–i.e., it was a guess. But he’s at ESPN now, so whatever.)
Sarah Palin.
Rick Perry.
Marco Rubio.
Rand Paul.
“Those are the people who are bankrupting the government and not letting enough money be left over for national defense.”
-Rand Paul
Let it be of record, one more time with feeling, that when you only see the state as necessary for police or military, police or military simply gobble up all the money. Libertarians; the police and military state supporters.
Don’t forget to mention that Palin is complaining that the “brainiac elitists” kept her from talking about Ayer and Wright and Bachmann is complaining as insulting that Obama is dismissing her fake scandals . They both may be o n their way out but about 30% of Americans are right with them and will willfully resist any enlightenment about the truth.
Interesting today to also read that Rush and Hannity are losing a big chunk of their stations. While the 30% of Americans who give them massive ratings are impressive, too many advertisers would rather not deal with the backlash from the rest of Americans.
So maybe there is hope.
What the GOP badly needs is a true leader with the personality to be accepted by the majority of Americans who can slap the rest of the party to toe the line. Right now the GOP is about as aligned as Lybia.
There is hope. Their voters are dying off.
And a new crop of young know-nothings is taking their place, morons who think a balanced budget will get them jobs.
Younger voters are, on average, more informed than their grandparents. That’s one reason we see the country trending blue. Demographic shifts are another. And then the general idiocy of the Republican party is slowly turning off independents and even moderate supporters.
Younger voters get their info from Facebook.
To be fair, older voters get it from Faux News.
But the new crop is smaller. The 4 million newly eligible voters each year are disproportionately progressive and likely to vote Democratic (by at least a 3-2 margin in recent years). The 3 million or so Americans who die each year are disproportionately over 65—which is also the part of the electorate that is most disproportionately Republican.
You have a point there.
Semi-OT, but I follow the radio trades (it’s my former industry), and the “Rush and Limbaugh are losing 30% of their stations” glee on the left is utterly misplaced. They are likely to be switching stations in 30 percent of their markets, over a billing and inventory squabble between two big corporations – Clear Channel, which owns Rush’s distribution company, and Cumulus, which owns those 30% of stations and thinks it can make more money by controlling their own ad sales with in-house talent even if it gets much lower ratings. It has nothing, positive or negative. to do with Rush or Hannity’s audience size.
The frakking of the Republican Party will be drawn out due to the entrenched gerrymandered districts and the copious amounts of Koch type money available to be spent.
Civil war, people should stop this!!! http://linkapp.me/CEsWO