Through the years I have gotten to know John Pfaff a Professor at Fordham Law School.
He has a new book coming out that I hope gets widely read.
Most of what you read, even from the liberal press, on mass incarceration is objectively false.
It is NOT true that the rise in incarceration is primarily a result of the drug laws.
The “For Profit Prisons” have little to do with the increase in incarceration.
What is the problem? A good summary:
Pfaff’s major data epiphany was that, during the 1990s and 2000s, as violent crime and arrests for violent crime both declined, the number of felony cases filed in state courts somehow went up. A lot. “In the end, the probability that a prosecutor would file felony charges against an arrestee basically doubled, and that change pushed prison populations up even as crime dropped,” he writes. Pfaff suggests several explanations for this. There were tens of thousands more prosecutors hired across the country in the 1990s and aughts even after the rising crime of the 1980s had stalled out, and the position of district attorney simultaneously became a more politically powerful one. Prosecutors’ discretion, always great, was expanded by courts and legislatures. And public defenders, stuck at the same or lower levels of funding, have not kept up with the growing caseload.
As a prosecutor I saw the problem, and have talked with Pfaff about it. Prosecutor’s have become increasingly risk adverse over time. No prosecutor wants the story of a person they undercharged and who subsequently commits a violent felony in the paper. It is how careers are ended.
As the rate of crime exploded in the 80’s and 90’s, the result was prosecutors were overcharging defendants.
Let me take an example from my own career. I had a case of a 17 year old who held up 3 convenience stores with a gun. He did not fire the gun, but a bipartisan law had passed mandatory minimums for a certain class of felony where a gun was used. As a result this person did 13 years before he saw a parole board.
In retrospect I could have lowered the charge and avoided the sentence, but the thought didn’t occur to me until before sentencing and the DA would not have agreed to it unless I made a compelling case.
As Pfaff has shown in his data, this is precisely why the prison population increased so dramatically.
Really reducing mass incarceration means dealing with how violent crime is sentenced.
Here is some bad news…violent crime is going back up. Naked capitalism had a link today. Still low, but trending, esp in urban areas.
This is kind of a right wing lie. I say this because they are cherry picking urban areas to show the increase, and because year to year murder rates tend to be volatile. Even in the urban areas they cite like Chicago the rate is nowhere close to what it was in the 90’s.
Do you have the Naked Capitalism link.
Via Naked Capitalism …
○ Muder In America | The Economist |
Pretty obvious cherry picking of data.
The increase is confined to a few cities and not even based on nationwide data.
No sale.
I can’t see any compelling reason to be wedded to the idea that violent crime in America is perpetually on the decrease.
To the extent crime mirrors poverty/desperation, poverty will most certainly expand under implemented “conservatism” and Trumpism, so violent crime should increase.
Violent clashes of militarized police and demonstrators will also increase, as will the criminalization of demonstration as “serious crimes”.
If violent crime doesn’t increase over the next 8 years of Trumpism, that would be very surprising.
“To the extent crime mirrors poverty/desperation, poverty will most certainly expand under implemented “conservatism” and Trumpism, so violent crime should increase”
The link between poverty and violent crime has been disproven. Changes in one do not effect changes in the other.
Progressives say this as a reflex – there is no support in the data for it.
None.
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So the idea is that, across all states, we now have a “Let no felony go uncharged” mindset? Seems like that should mean many more criminal trials.
So the caseload of the average prosecutor has decreased since the 80s?
There are significantly more prosecutors per a crime now than there were 30 years ago. There are more judges as well.
This is why the charging patterns have changed.
Wouldn’t you think that Prisons for Profit would incentivize harsh prosecution through the campaign contributions of the prison guard’s union and the PfP industry? Also, these prisons are major employers of some rural towns. Anyone done analysis on that?
In 22 states there are no private prisons and the sentencing looks the same.
Honestly it never made all that sense to me that private prisons would matter. Judges decide sentences and Prosecutors make recommendations. I do not believe those are influenced by private prisons.
I really don’t think that happens on a systematic basis.
Well, the timing is curious. 1994 Crime Bill provided $9 billion to the states to build prisons and 100K new cops to catch culprits. One condition for receiving the federal funds, he noted, was that states scale back early paroles and adopt sentencing policies requiring that inmates serve more time in prison.
California and the West Federal and State Prison Populations Soared Under Clinton, Report Finds (LA Times)
The Marshall Project had this to say:
“…prison populations began to rise in 1973, and reached double-digit annual percentage increases in the 1980s. This was a national phenomenon, largely taking place at the state level, where more than 85% of prisoners are housed. During these years virtually every state adopted some form of mandatory sentencing and harsher penalties for juvenile offenders, while also ramping up arrests for drug offenses.
The crime bill did not inaugurate the era of mass incarceration, but it certainly escalated the scale of its impact.”
Marshall Project
There is a lot of very opposing literature on the effect of urban gentrification and crime rates.
Seems logical to me that neighborhoods disrupted by closing public schools and dislocations would be a source of big stressors on families, and esp juveniles. Chicago is a poster boy.
What is happening in poor suburbs?
And this economy is still headed down for the 80%.
Why did crime go down so much? It is an interesting question. I am partial to the lead explanation – but that accounts for a little more than half even if you buy the explanation.
It is an interesting question without a clear answer.